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2 hours ago, T.E. said:

Exactly, player voting has kept Allen out of the Pro Bowl multiple times when he was also an MVP candidate. Ridiculous that guys with clear and natural biases even have a say in postseason awards.

If Mahomes gets an auto bid to the pro bowl this year because of his resume, there's a very real chance that Allen wins the MVP and doesn't get selected to the pro bowl.

 

I'm assuming it would be the first time that's happened in NFL history, but not sure.

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Posted
3 hours ago, MJS said:

McCaffrey? He has been out injured all season!!

and look how average the 49ers been without him. That said this vote is laughable when see names like Prescott and Stafford on it. 

Posted
34 minutes ago, BigAl2526 said:

Five players voted for Prescot out of the 110 surveyed.

Even more funny,

Posted (edited)
5 hours ago, Don Otreply said:

Someone voted for Dak Prescott, 🤣

And not one vote for Mahomes

 

edit: nvm - missed the 'first MVP' bit

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Posted (edited)
3 minutes ago, stevewin said:

And not one vote for Mahomes

 

The question was "Who is the next active player to win their first MVP?".  Mahomes obviously wouldn't qualify since he already won one.

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4 hours ago, hondo in seattle said:

Part of me feels like it's Allen's turn.  I know that's not how it's supposed to work.  It's supposed to go to this year's MVP and he's certainly in the conversation just based on his play this season.  But Lamar's already won it twice and when you look at all that Allen's done for this franchise, it's inconceivable to me that he hasn't won it already.

 

He could easily have won it on Aaron's consecutive years. Last year besides (ints), his stats were much better than LJ.  He is long overdue.  He doesn't have to be elite in these last 6 games. Just be good and have no stinkers.

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This guy is dumb. Says its just Mahomes and second Lamar for MVP. Says Allen is too much of a turnover magnet. It just never ends. Allen could have zero turnovers and they would still say he is a turnover magnet. Meanwhile Mahomes says Hi with all his turnovers.

 

https://www.newyorkupstate.com/buffalo-bills/2024/11/steelers-defender-takes-shot-at-josh-allen-says-buffalo-bills-qb-is-not-mvp-candidate.html

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Posted
14 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

 

This guy is dumb. Says its just Mahomes and second Lamar for MVP. Says Allen is too much of a turnover magnet. It just never ends. Allen could have zero turnovers and they would still say he is a turnover magnet. Meanwhile Mahomes says Hi with all his turnovers.

 

https://www.newyorkupstate.com/buffalo-bills/2024/11/steelers-defender-takes-shot-at-josh-allen-says-buffalo-bills-qb-is-not-mvp-candidate.html

I have to believe some of these defensive players aren’t used to having a QB physically dominate them at will and then talk sh*t and flex on them as he heads back to the huddle.

 

 It’s really the only thing that makes sense at this point, unless we’re just going to believe these players are unintelligent low IQ humans.

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On 11/21/2024 at 11:49 AM, T.E. said:

Exactly, player voting has kept Allen out of the Pro Bowl multiple times when he was also an MVP candidate. Ridiculous that guys with clear and natural biases even have a say in postseason awards.

I think the pink elephant in the room is there's some racial elements involved when it comes to voting for the Pro Bowl and MVP that people are afraid to acknowledge.  Especially with Allen and Lamar as both are known as great scrambling QB's.  Lamar came into the league as the 5th QB taken in the draft with Bill Polian stupidly saying he should be a WR.  Meanwhile, with Allen the day of the draft someone brought up some tweets of when he was a teenager that taken at face value seemed racist (even though he was quoting a TV show).  I'll just leave it at that.

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On 11/21/2024 at 6:27 AM, Big Turk said:

From earlier in the season, but pretty sure he would still be garnering at least as many votes after the Chiefs game.

Guess whoever thought he was overrated forget to vote this time 😂

 

On 11/21/2024 at 8:05 AM, MJS said:

McCaffrey? He has been out injured all season!!

 

On 11/21/2024 at 10:50 AM, BigAl2526 said:

Five players voted for Prescott out of the 110 surveyed.

 

On 11/21/2024 at 11:04 AM, strive_for_five_guy said:

This vote was after Week 3, so it’s very outdated now.

 

Yes. Specifically the poll was published on October 2nd. Not sure if they mentioned when it was taken...

 

Edit: "The Athletic’s NFL beat writers conducted the poll in August and September. "

 

On 11/21/2024 at 11:56 AM, LABILLBACKER said:

He could easily have won it on Aaron's consecutive years. Last year besides (ints), his stats were much better than LJ.  He is long overdue. He doesn't have to be elite in these last 6 games. Just be good and have no stinkers.

 

Yes, Josh doesn't have to be statistically elite but the Bills probably need to finish 5-1 for him to win.

 

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Posted
3 hours ago, julian said:

I have to believe some of these defensive players aren’t used to having a QB physically dominate them at will and then talk sh*t and flex on them as he heads back to the huddle.

 

 It’s really the only thing that makes sense at this point, unless we’re just going to believe these players are unintelligent low IQ humans.

 

It could be an attempt at mind games as well. The Bills may meet the Steelers in the post season - this is an attempt to get into Josh's head and hope he pushes things too far to prove Elliott wrong.

 

Or I could be over-thinking.

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4 hours ago, Scott7975 said:

 

This guy is dumb. Says its just Mahomes and second Lamar for MVP. Says Allen is too much of a turnover magnet. It just never ends. Allen could have zero turnovers and they would still say he is a turnover magnet. Meanwhile Mahomes says Hi with all his turnovers.

 

https://www.newyorkupstate.com/buffalo-bills/2024/11/steelers-defender-takes-shot-at-josh-allen-says-buffalo-bills-qb-is-not-mvp-candidate.html

 

Hey, listen, in Elliot's defense, counting is hard :rolleyes:

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Posted
4 hours ago, julian said:

I have to believe some of these defensive players aren’t used to having a QB physically dominate them at will and then talk sh*t and flex on them as he heads back to the huddle.

 

 It’s really the only thing that makes sense at this point, unless we’re just going to believe these players are unintelligent low IQ humans.

You're right but not just a QB,a white QB from Wyoming. Let's be honest, they hate that. 

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Posted
7 hours ago, Scott7975 said:

 

This guy is dumb. Says its just Mahomes and second Lamar for MVP. Says Allen is too much of a turnover magnet. It just never ends. Allen could have zero turnovers and they would still say he is a turnover magnet. Meanwhile Mahomes says Hi with all his turnovers.

 

https://www.newyorkupstate.com/buffalo-bills/2024/11/steelers-defender-takes-shot-at-josh-allen-says-buffalo-bills-qb-is-not-mvp-candidate.html

Is Deshawn Elliot one of the Steelers that Allen ran by on his way to that 52 yard scoring run in the playoffs?

 

 

Posted
On 11/21/2024 at 9:27 AM, Big Turk said:

From earlier in the season, but pretty sure he would still be garnering at least as many votes after the Chiefs game.

Guess whoever thought he was overrated forget to vote this time 😂

 

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We all know how good Allen is. I don’t need a gold star. The stats speak for themselves. Besides, the MVP award lost all credibility when Lamar won it last year. It’s a dumb award and only for QBs anyways. 

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