Big Turk Posted November 21 Posted November 21 From earlier in the season, but pretty sure he would still be garnering at least as many votes after the Chiefs game. Guess whoever thought he was overrated forget to vote this timeย ๐ ย ย Quote
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted November 21 Posted November 21 (edited) lombardi ย mvp? ย yeah, the lombardi trophy seems much more important than mvp. although both would be cool, I'm sure JA would take the lombardi over mvp and I believe he has said as such. Edited November 21 by DaBillsFanSince1973 1 1 1 Quote
Strethor Posted November 21 Posted November 21 The narrative last year was Josh wouldn't be Josh without Diggs, and he is turnover prone. He proved that narrative to be false this year despite having far and away the best QB statlineย ย Now Lamar has better stats, and a HOF running back and now it's a stats award and not a best record award. ย It's just funny how the goal posts move. 1 4 Quote
zow2 Posted November 21 Posted November 21 10 minutes ago, Strethor said: The narrative last year was Josh wouldn't be Josh without Diggs, and he is turnover prone. He proved that narrative to be false this year despite having far and away the best QB statlineย ย Yeah, The narrative this season is that of the leading MVP QB candidates, Josh has the least impressive supporting cast.ย He's doing more with less.ย I also think there's a little bit of "lifetime achievement award" mixed in.ย His offensive production over the past 5 years or so is outrageous. And there is Lamar fatigue,ย plus he's also flamed out in big playoff games.ย ย Yesterday on one of the TV shows, they discussed the stats of Josh Allen in his Losing playoff games and they were still awesome.ย The hosts noted that throughout his career, Allen is not the reason the Bills have been eliminated. ย ย ย ย 3 Quote
co_springs_billsfan Posted November 21 Posted November 21 59 minutes ago, Don Otreply said: Someone voted for Dak Prescott, ๐คฃ Someones 1 1 Quote
hondo in seattle Posted November 21 Posted November 21 Part of me feels like it's Allen's turn.ย I know that's not how it's supposed to work.ย It's supposed to go to this year's MVP and he's certainly in the conversation just based on his play this season.ย But Lamar's already won it twice and when you look at all that Allen's done for this franchise, it's inconceivable to me that he hasn't won it already. ย Quote
strive_for_five_guy Posted November 21 Posted November 21 He probably would and should still be at the top, but Lamar would be way up there at this point too. ย Week 3 v. now, a lot has happened. ย Quote
Sojourner Posted November 21 Posted November 21 Joe Burrow, Josh and Lamar.ย ย Thatโs who it is right now. If Joe wins then last year was an absolute sham because then statistics and not win total play a part. Something Josh bet Lamar in by a landslide.ย ย ย ย Quote
Saxum Posted November 21 Posted November 21 Question is worded to not allow NFL players favorite players Pat Mahones and Lamar Jackson so not much value IMO.ย 2 Quote
Goin Breakdown Posted November 21 Posted November 21 Well it doesn't exactly say "this year" and it doesn't say "who will win their third MVP" so really this is a nothing burger.ย Quote
Kelly to Allen Posted November 21 Posted November 21 I think the KC defense is excellent. Everyone knows their numbers.ย ย Allen playing a b- game made them look ordinary.ย ย I don't need to say anything elseย ย ย 1 1 Quote
T.E. Posted November 21 Posted November 21 36 minutes ago, Saxum said: Question is worded to not allow NFL players favorite players Pat Mahones and Lamar Jackson so not much value IMO.ย Exactly, player voting has kept Allen out of the Pro Bowl multiple times when he was also an MVP candidate. Ridiculous that guys with clear and natural biases even have a say in postseason awards. Quote
strive_for_five_guy Posted November 21 Posted November 21 45 minutes ago, Sojourner said: Joe Burrow, Josh and Lamar.ย ย Thatโs who it is right now. If Joe wins then last year was an absolute sham because then statistics and not win total play a part. Something Josh bet Lamar in by a landslide.ย ย ย ย I know Burrowโs stat line is pretty decent, but I say no way he wins MVP. ย Most losses ever by an MVP was 7, when Barry Sanders ran for 2,000 yards in 1997. ย Only one player won MVP with 6 losses, when Adrian Peterson ran for 2,000 yards in 2012. ย Another loss or two for the Ravens, Iโd say even Lamar gets himself out of the running and itโs down to Josh and potentially Goff. ย https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/nfl-player-with-most-losses-in-a-mvp-season 2 Quote
Malazan Posted November 21 Posted November 21 4 minutes ago, strive_for_five_guy said: I know Burrowโs stat line is pretty decent, but I say no way he wins MVP. ย Most losses ever by an MVP was 7, when Barry Sanders ran for 2,000 yards in 1997. ย Only one player won MVP with 6 losses, when Adrian Peterson ran for 2,000 yards in 2012. ย Another loss or two for the Ravens, Iโd say even Lamar gets himself out of the running and itโs down to Josh and potentially Goff. ย https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/nfl-player-with-most-losses-in-a-mvp-season ย MVP from teams that don't win their division are pretty rare. 3 Quote
T.E. Posted November 21 Posted November 21 Barkley should be in the mix too, but for some reason this award is only available to QBs unless a player at another position breaks some sort of sacred record. Quote
FireChans Posted November 21 Posted November 21 (edited) 1 hour ago, GoBills808 said: 'next active player to win his first' ย ย Some smart guy put a tidy little sum on Josh Allen MVP and TJ Watt DPOY before the year. ย Some dumb guy added Caleb Williams OROY and parlayed them all. Edited November 21 by FireChans 4 Quote
The Wiz Posted November 21 Posted November 21 4 minutes ago, T.E. said: Barkley should be in the mix too, but for some reason this award is only available to QBs unless a player at another position breaks some sort of sacred record. He probably would be higher if he stopped getting tackled at the 1 yard line. Quote
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