Uproar over Hanging Kermit

[EasternOHBillsFan]

3 minutes ago, Blackbeard said:

Cmon man.  You're smart. You have a history degree.

 

These are the sort of people that would ask the French why did you even get involved in World War I, the same sort of person I encountered early today in my History Discussion Group. The state of education today is abysmal...

[MJS]

1 minute ago, Logic said:

I won't try to argue that hanging anyone's effigy is ever smart, funny, or a good idea.

But the outrage IS a little bit rich coming from the fan base of the team who mimes a Native American war chant throughout football games.

If we're talking about insensitivity to our racial past: pot, meet kettle.

I don't believe it is coming from their fanbase. It is probably the media who's sole purpose seems to be to divide and outrage these days.

[NickelCity]

2 minutes ago, MJS said:

I don't believe it is coming from their fanbase. It is probably the media who's sole purpose seems to be to divide and outrage these days.

 

Their purpose appears to be generating views/revenue. Consumers repeatedly indicate that divisiveness/outrage is what they'll respond to...over and over and over.

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

I just don't get it.  It's not even funny.  

[Maynard]

I’m going on a hunger strike until that noose is removed from that doll’s head. After my McDonald’s breakfast that is. 

[Blackbeard]

6 minutes ago, EasternOHBillsFan said:

The state of education today is abysmal...

Completely agree.  

[dgrochester55]

6 minutes ago, MJS said:

I don't believe it is coming from their fanbase. It is probably the media who's sole purpose seems to be to divide and outrage these days.

 

This is 100% what it is.

[Buffalo ill]

4 hours ago, Ya Digg? said:

Flip the script-if a Chiefs fan did that to a Josh Allen doll how would you want people to react?

As a grown man with more important life issues to deal with, I wouldn't care.

[Simon]

10 minutes ago, EasternOHBillsFan said:

The state of education today is abysmal...

 

I won't disagree with this but will add that the attitude toward being educated is also equally abysmal.

It's like a perfect storm of idiocy.

 

[Mark Vader]

3 hours ago, SoCal Deek said:

What’s the issue? I recall many years where someone would have a dolphin or a buffalo hanging from a noose INSIDE the stadium. Would people rather have seen an American Indian? Is the issue about the noose or who/what was hanging from it? Geez, people! 

Exactly. Fans have been doing this for decades. You see it a lot of this at college football games too.

 

Much ado about nothing. 

[Fr. Jerk]

*granite*

[Ballhawk]

Honestly the kermit thing is not big deal. Hanging him I don't like.

Never got the kermit reference anyway...always saw Mahones as more of a sideshow bob.

[Simon]

1 minute ago, Ballhawk said:

Honestly the kermit thing is not big deal. Hanging him I don't like.

Never got the kermit reference anyway...always saw Mahones as more of a sideshow bob.

 

It would be awesome if he walked into a press conference and started talking like Sideshow Bob in a Kelsey Grammer voice. 

[DaVinci]

17 minutes ago, Logic said:

But the outrage IS a little bit rich coming from the fan base of the team who mimes a Native American war chant throughout football games.

First off The chop Is demeaning to native Americans. Secound ,why would you glorify an action that scalps people

Edited November 21 by DaVinci

[Sweats]

1 hour ago, Beck Water said:

 

I'm pretty old too.   Wanna compare timelines?

 

40 years ago was 1984.  50 years ago, it was legal and acceptable for banks to deny a credit card to a woman, because she was a woman.  56 years ago, it was legal and acceptable to deny a mortgage or refuse to sell a home to a black family.  The attitudes behind that didn't disappear when the law changed.

 

I don't know you, and I don't want to judge you - though you do seem happy to judge others - but I'd like to respectfully suggest that what you consider the "good old days" when you could drape nooses around your construction site and you think no one had "hurt feelings" or considered it "offensive", probably means that the people who found it offensive considered that they had to "go along to get along" and could not, safely, object.

In my experience, when someone starts yelping about how "we live in an age of hurt feelings" where "people are easily triggered", what it really means is  I could chat with them for 20 minutes and come away knowing EXACTLY what to say and what jokes to tell to offend THEM and have THEM squirming uncomfortably.

 

 

 

/mic end thread

 

 

 

I lived life back in the day when it was acceptable to drink on construction sites, where it was acceptable to drink and drive, drive without a seatbelt, when you got into a fight in the bar the bouncers just let it go to see how it all played out, you drove without a driver's license and no one really cared, safety of any kind especially on construction sites was never even cared about, etc.

 

Things were different back then and hanging a noose on a construction site was a "rite of passage", not a symbol of ill-will towards anyone. It was done in jest to show the apprentices what would happen to them if they ****ed up. It was a joke, and we all knew it was a joke........unfortunately, all it takes is one person with hurt feelings who is "triggered" to create an issue for a long-standing tradition that ruins it for everyone.

And trust me, we had no "go along to get along".........we had men that spoke their minds and weren't afraid to say it. If you couldn't speak your mind or if you are easily offended, then perhaps construction wasn't for you, and it was best for that person to move on because we were never going to change the culture to suit one person.

 

We live in an age that i don't recognize anymore and when i say that i am old and probably one step closer to death, so all of these nonsense society changes mean nothing to me, it is in jest, however, it really isn't, because i don't care.

 

I am the way i am and if anyone has a problem with it, then it is their problem. At least people know what they are getting when it comes to me......they figure it out 100% within the first 2 minutes. There is no bull****, there are no lies, no games, nothing but upfront honesty and if that hurts people's feelings, or they get offended, or triggered, well it's not like you didn't know going into it cause i am the way i am and i will not change to satisfy a society that has lost its way.....and let's be honest here, if you've been around on this planet for any length of time, you've seen that society has lost its way and it's getting worse by the day.

 

Hope that clears it up for you.

[chongli]

29 minutes ago, Saxum said:

 

They also did it for farmers and herders who in way of some powerful men but that does not fit your narrative. 

 

Irrelevant. 

[Beck Water]

27 minutes ago, Logic said:

I won't try to argue that hanging anyone's effigy is ever smart, funny, or a good idea.

But the outrage IS a little bit rich coming from the fan base of the team who mimes a Native American war chant throughout football games.

If we're talking about insensitivity to our racial past: pot, meet kettle.

 

Now this,  is a very valid point

KC does have that "easily outraged fans" bit going for them, starting with Brittney Mahomes getting all fluffed up and indignant that the networks dared to show her dejected husband on the bench during their SB loss to Tampa (never bothered her when the networks showed dejected opposing QB through the season)

[Sweats]

22 minutes ago, RunTheBall said:

 

We don’t know it was white guys who did it. In fact, there are several posters who said they observed 3 black guys doing it and they’ve done it before. If that’s true, it makes this thread even more ridiculous. 

 

As an American of Italian decent, I find the term Bill Mafia offensive because of the negative connotation of some of my more entrepreneurial brethren.

 

Actually no I don’t. I couldn’t care less. I just think the term Bills Mafia is dumb

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This can't possibly be true because this whole thread was making it sound racist, so it must have been white guys doing it.

[GoBills808]

please let this thread continue

[Simon]

17 minutes ago, Sweats said:

I am the way i am and if anyone has a problem with it, then it is their problem.

 

Then don't be surprised or outraged when anybody hands you your hat and shows you the door because you have zero sense of when to stop.