Don Otreply Posted Thursday at 02:29 PM Posted Thursday at 02:29 PM 1 hour ago, Sweats said: ..........i'm triggered I’ve lost my pearls!!! What ever shall I do Quote
JP51 Posted Thursday at 02:30 PM Posted Thursday at 02:30 PM (edited) 4 minutes ago, Sweats said: What if the next time, someone just depicts hanging a white guy?.......does that ease all your tensions a bit? Like i said initially, we need comedy, we need to relax on being offended by every little thing... we have to laugh more... but to me hanging anyone in effigy is tasteless. Racist? I personally dont believe there was racial intent, but some do... and I get that... to me it doesnt matter... I just dont like the fact that we are hanging anything in effigy... just my opinion... Edited Thursday at 02:30 PM by JP51 1 Quote
Beck Water Posted Thursday at 02:33 PM Posted Thursday at 02:33 PM 56 minutes ago, Sweats said: I was on a construction site one time, and someone hung a noose from one of the joist beams.......someone complained about it, the Ministry of Labour was called in and the site was shut down until they could do an investigation. We could get away with that 30-40 years ago, but in today's world, it's deemed unacceptable. Mind you, we are living in an age of "hurt feelings", everything is "offensive", people are easily "triggered" (whatever the hell that means) ........i mean, thank Christ I'm old and probably don't have a whole lot of time left cause i don't like the direction we're all headed. I'm pretty old too. Wanna compare timelines? 40 years ago was 1984. 50 years ago, it was legal and acceptable for banks to deny a credit card to a woman, because she was a woman. 56 years ago, it was legal and acceptable to deny a mortgage or refuse to sell a home to a black family. The attitudes behind that didn't disappear when the law changed. I don't know you, and I don't want to judge you - though you do seem happy to judge others - but I'd like to respectfully suggest that what you consider the "good old days" when you could drape nooses around your construction site and you think no one had "hurt feelings" or considered it "offensive", probably means that the people who found it offensive considered that they had to "go along to get along" and could not, safely, object. In my experience, when someone starts yelping about how "we live in an age of hurt feelings" where "people are easily triggered", what it really means is I could chat with them for 20 minutes and come away knowing EXACTLY what to say and what jokes to tell to offend THEM and have THEM squirming uncomfortably. 7 minutes ago, teef said: tremaine edmunds sucks! /mic end thread 2 1 3 Quote
Mat68 Posted Thursday at 02:36 PM Posted Thursday at 02:36 PM I get where people could be offended. I dont see it as a racial act. If the above picture is the one in question. Yes, it is hanging from a pole. Which sounds bad. It is not hung up with a noose depicting hanging Mahomes. Its put up a flag pole. Now I have 0 doubt that other more graphic depiction probably exists. This is probably the line. 1 Quote
RunTheBall Posted Thursday at 02:37 PM Posted Thursday at 02:37 PM Does no one see the irony of the members of fan base called Bills “MAFIA” being triggered by a frog hanging from a rope? Selective outrage. The frog is not being lynched. There’s no rope around his neck. It’s suspended by as rope on a stick. I can see how those who want to be offended can find fault in this though. I just think the whole thing (both the “hanging” and the response to it) is dumb. And Mahomes absolutely sounds like Kermit 6 1 Quote
JerseyBills Posted Thursday at 02:37 PM Posted Thursday at 02:37 PM Such a bs non story. Surprised this even gained traction 1 Quote
HereComesTheReignAgain Posted Thursday at 02:37 PM Posted Thursday at 02:37 PM I wonder how many of the outraged chiefs fans get drunk and take part in the "indian war chant" and tomahawk chop at KC home games? *I do think it was dumb to hang the frog even if the intent was not a lynching. 1 1 Quote
GETTOTHE50 Posted Thursday at 02:41 PM Posted Thursday at 02:41 PM (edited) I hope next time someone throws a Kermit with a billdo on the field, Tom Brady style Edited Thursday at 02:41 PM by GETTOTHE50 1 Quote
Sweats Posted Thursday at 02:51 PM Posted Thursday at 02:51 PM How was it more offensive than a Billdo being thrown on the field?!? 2 Quote
TheyCallMeAndy Posted Thursday at 02:51 PM Posted Thursday at 02:51 PM Very poor taste. I get we see people have mascots strung up, like a Buffalo or Dolphin, but something that directly represents a player is totally different. The implication is hang Patrick Mahommes, and that’s pretty effed up. Quote
fergie's ire Posted Thursday at 02:52 PM Posted Thursday at 02:52 PM 13 minutes ago, Beck Water said: I'm pretty old too. Wanna compare timelines? 40 years ago was 1984. 50 years ago, it was legal and acceptable for banks to deny a credit card to a woman, because she was a woman. 56 years ago, it was legal and acceptable to deny a mortgage or refuse to sell a home to a black family. The attitudes behind that didn't disappear when the law changed. I don't know you, and I don't want to judge you - though you do seem happy to judge others - but I'd like to respectfully suggest that what you consider the "good old days" when you could drape nooses around your construction site and you think no one had "hurt feelings" or considered it "offensive", probably means that the people who found it offensive considered that they had to "go along to get along" and could not, safely, object. In my experience, when someone starts yelping about how "we live in an age of hurt feelings" where "people are easily triggered", what it really means is I could chat with them for 20 minutes and come away knowing EXACTLY what to say and what jokes to tell to offend THEM and have THEM squirming uncomfortably. /mic end thread I, too, am pretty old and I remember about 1980 some Ithaca College kids on Halloween dressed up as KKK members escorting a guy in black face and chains who was carrying a sign saying "Eat at Sambos." They were all suspended and a few were expelled. Even though the things you say were true back then, even then we knew that racially insensitive jokes were not cool and making them had consequences. People have this sense that 50 years ago we could dress in black face or make jokes that make an allusion (intentional or not) to lynching and everyone would laugh and be okay with it. That just wasn't the case. 1 1 1 Quote
TheWei44 Posted Thursday at 02:54 PM Posted Thursday at 02:54 PM 14 minutes ago, RunTheBall said: Does no one see the irony of the members of fan base called Bills “MAFIA” being triggered by a frog hanging from a rope? Selective outrage. The frog is not being lynched. There’s no rope around his neck. It’s suspended by as rope on a stick. I can see how those who want to be offended can find fault in this though. I just think the whole thing (both the “hanging” and the response to it) is dumb. And Mahomes absolutely sounds like Kermit I have never been a fan of "Bills Mafia" personally. So I'm being consistent. So funny that some here immediately make this political and call people libby's, etc. This is not a political discussion. It's in bad taste IMHO, that's the point. No one (or very few, I assume) are "outraged" over this. Quote
BUFFALOBART Posted Thursday at 02:58 PM Posted Thursday at 02:58 PM 2 hours ago, GolfandBills said: Tis the society we live in.. everything is offensive It’s just clickbait. Anyone who is offended, likely sees drama, in most everything. 2 Quote
TheWeatherMan Posted Thursday at 02:58 PM Posted Thursday at 02:58 PM 3 minutes ago, TheWei44 said: I have never been a fan of "Bills Mafia" personally. So I'm being consistent. So funny that some here immediately make this political and call people libby's, etc. This is not a political discussion. It's in bad taste IMHO, that's the point. No one (or very few, I assume) are "outraged" over this. Youse bout to be sleepin with the fishes. 2 Quote
RichStadiumGuy Posted Thursday at 03:07 PM Posted Thursday at 03:07 PM 56 minutes ago, chongli said: Doesn't matter what their intentions were; it is still racism and wrong. Is it still racist if it was erected by three black guys? A friend of mine watched them putting it up while he was heading into the stadium. 6 1 Quote
GaryPinC Posted Thursday at 03:12 PM Posted Thursday at 03:12 PM 29 minutes ago, RunTheBall said: Does no one see the irony of the members of fan base called Bills “MAFIA” being triggered by a frog hanging from a rope? Selective outrage. The frog is not being lynched. There’s no rope around his neck. It’s suspended by as rope on a stick. I can see how those who want to be offended can find fault in this though. I just think the whole thing (both the “hanging” and the response to it) is dumb. And Mahomes absolutely sounds like Kermit Yes, everyone knows Mahomes sounds like Kermit. The added hair and jersey seem to indicate that also. It's a different kind of disturbing to pretend that this isn't a hanging of Mahomes as a joke. I'm not saying it's racism. But it is symbolic of the lynchings and systemic racism in the south and offensive to at least some members of the black community. I know because I've discussed with some of my friends/acquaintances. It's disappointing and it would be nice if these Mafia members had more class to find a different way to get this joke across. 1 1 Quote
Saxum Posted Thursday at 03:14 PM Posted Thursday at 03:14 PM 33 minutes ago, HereComesTheReignAgain said: I wonder how many of the outraged chiefs fans get drunk and take part in the "indian war chant" and tomahawk chop at KC home games? *I do think it was dumb to hang the frog even if the intent was not a lynching. A noose is a hanging. Tying a string to a puppet is not a hanging - strings on puppets are natural. Next there will be offense of Reid and Mahones being dressed up as Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum. 3 1 Quote
Not at the table Karlos Posted Thursday at 03:14 PM Posted Thursday at 03:14 PM 2 hours ago, Ya Digg? said: Flip the script-if a Chiefs fan did that to a Josh Allen doll how would you want people to react? I wouldn’t care. Other people reacting to stupid things isn’t my business. If their life has that little going on that they feel the need to react to something that has nothing to do with them that’s their problem not mine. I’ll never understand why people get bent out of shape about things that don’t impact their lives one bit. Quote
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