Uproar over Hanging Kermit

[dgrochester55]

It was in poor taste and shouldn't have been done, but some in the media will blow it out of proportion turning it from a three or four to a nine or ten on the drama scale. Part of the media's job in 2024 is to tell everyone who or what to be outraged and pissed at next.

[wnyguy]

3 minutes ago, chongli said:

 

Hanging a black person in effigy is racism, period. It is wrong.

Do you think they did it because of the color of his skin or because he is the QB of the Chiefs?

[TheWei44]

1 minute ago, dgrochester55 said:

It was in poor taste and shouldn't have been done, but some in the media will blow it out of proportion turning it from a three or four to a nine or ten on the drama scale. Part of the media's job in 2024 is to tell everyone who or what to be outraged and pissed at next.

Nailed it!  Thanks.

[ScottishBills]

Suspect people know fine well they are clutching at straws if they think some bunch of drunks hung the effigy as a reference to slavery and lynchings tbh

 

They just ***** hate Mahomes (respectable position) and this was their heavy handed way of showing it. We all know it's not a political or racial commentary. Tbh a reasonable chance they don't even realise Mahomes is black 😂

[gonzo1105]

I don’t really care either way. The Bills fans have been doing this since I was born in the mid 80s. The person who did it I would almost guarantee didn’t do it with that intent in his/her mind. 
 

I remember the Bills yearbook one year showing the Bills hanging a Dolphin by a stick. I fully realize that a Dolphin isn’t the same here. Just shows some Bills fans haven’t evolved with the times 

[Sweats]

People are getting "triggered" in here (whatever the hell that means).

[TheWei44]

1 minute ago, ScottishBills said:

Suspect people know fine well they are clutching at straws if they think some bunch of drunks hung the effigy as a reference to slavery and lynchings tbh

 

They just ***** hate Mahomes (respectable position) and this was their heavy handed way of showing it. We all know it's not a political or racial commentary. Tbh a reasonable chance they don't even realise Mahomes is black 😂

Agreed, but that is an important subtlety here:  The (theoretical) drunken idiots likely didn't even conceive of how what they did might be perceived.  In an ideal world, you need to step in the shoes of others and realize it's in poor taste and could be taken as a racial slur.  And also in poor taste for other reasons. 

[Beck Water]

1 hour ago, f0neguy said:

Prior to the game Sunday someone hung a toy Kermit in a Mahomes jersey by a rope.  Now multiple outlets are posting what a terrible disturbing act that was.  Granted, most everyone reading this on this forum is a Bills fan but are others bothered by this?  I see it as fans being fans and it’s not a big deal.  Agree or disagree?

 

I think it's way over the top.  Hanging a player in effigy is crap.  How would you like it if an opposing team had a doll showing Allen being hung, or stabbed, or bloody and dismembered? 

Then add in that Mahomes is black, and from Texas - a state that has a documented history of at least 600 lynchings of black people between 1896 and 1945 and it has racist overtones.

 

Frankly, dismissing it as "fans being fans" is IMO not a good look for you.  Dismissing anything that involves actual assault/murder or depictions of actual assault/murder as "fans being fans" or "boys being boys" or whatever is just..... Ick.

[Son of a K-Gun]

 

49 minutes ago, Peace Frog said:

Maybe change it from a lynching (bad look) to being trampled by a bison.

 

Maybe some cement shoes on those frog legs?

[Big Turk]

8 minutes ago, wnyguy said:

Do you think they did it because of the color of his skin or because he is the QB of the Chiefs?

 

I have no idea. Neither do you.  Trying to excuse this behavior away is so tone deaf I am going to assume you probably don't spend much time around non-white people.

Edited Thursday at 02:04 PM by Big Turk

[wnyguy]

It was a Kermit doll wearing a Chiefs jersey. I don't think Kermit is black, he's a frog.

[JP51]

I am not one who is overly tolerant of those who get offended by stuff that is supposed to be a joke... like we have to laugh at ourselves and not take things too seriously... that being said... No. Hanging anything in effigy is not funny and doing so if you actually mean it is threatening and if you are trying to be funny is tasteless. 

[ddaryl]

i think the whole noose thing even in jest is just in bad taste

[chongli]

8 minutes ago, wnyguy said:

Do you think they did it because of the color of his skin or because he is the QB of the Chiefs?

 

Doesn't matter what their intentions were; it is still racism and wrong.

[Jay_Fixit]

1 hour ago, Ya Digg? said:

Flip the script-if a Chiefs fan did that to a Josh Allen doll how would you want people to react?

I’d laugh. Because it’s sports.

 

 

[Breakout Squad]

Just now, chongli said:

 

Doesn't matter what their intentions were; it is still racism and wrong.

Woah woah hold on.  How was it racist??

[oldmanfan]

46 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

What’s the issue? I recall many years where someone would have a dolphin or a buffalo hanging from a noose INSIDE the stadium. Would people rather have seen an American Indian? Is the issue about the noose or who/what was hanging from it? Geez, people! 

Mahomes is a black man.  Simple.

[chongli]

Just now, wnyguy said:

It was a Kermit doll wearing a Chiefs jersey. I don't think Kermit is black, he's a frog.

 

Mahommes is black, so it is wrong. Plus, a noose evokes racism and a vile time in US history.

[Dablitzkrieg]

1 minute ago, oldmanfan said:

Mahomes is a black man.  Simple.

He's white too

[oldmanfan]

Just now, Dablitzkrieg said:

He's white too

And black.  And this was not what the Mafia should be about.