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Just now, boco357 said:

I'm probably the only person that thinks they won't play again in the playoffs.

 

There is a good chance they won't. The Ravens, Steelers are more than capable of beating the Chiefs and Bills. 

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Here is where i take some comfort... looks like McD has finally got the message that you have to stake these guys and not just hold on for time to run out. That aggressive approach may hurt if you fail after all it is risk reward. But in the end to beat them you have to aggressively manage the risk and BEAT them.  This gives me some hope for a different playoff outcome if it all falls into place. 

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11 hours ago, PoundingDog said:

Injuries can certainly change things from now to the playoff. But overall, what we saw last Sunday is pretty much both team playing at a high level while missing important pieces. I don't see it change much when they meet again even when all the missing pieces are back. Last Sunday, the Bills executed a little better and the coaching decisions showed quite a bit improvement from what they did against the Chiefs in the past. To finally overcome the Chiefs in the playoff, they probably don't need to overthink and make drastic changes. 

 

I agree with you that I thought the Bills coaching decisions and strategy showed improvement over some of their previous meetings.

 

I think you bring up a key point "injuries can certainly change things".  We've had some pretty bad luck with injuries playing the Chiefs in the post-season.  The key and unanswerable question will be, how healthy are we next time we meet?

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I suspect KC is going to feed our D line a steady diet of Pacheco and Hunt, along with their standard passing game, we will need to contain both the run and passing attacks, which I believe we will, fingers crossed 🤞 that we get as many guys healthy and up to speed as possible, that will go a long way towards the Bills controlling the clock and winning. 

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With a decently healthy defense and Offense they blow em out.  38-13.  I dont care if they play again in Buffalo, in Kc on Mars.  That was a C game from Allen.  Add in Coleman, Kincaid, and Brown with a better performance from Allen and I think the offense rolls.  Kc isn't currently built to play from behind and abandon the run. Imo it will be a passing of the torch literally and figuratively.  Kc and their fans need to hold onto Buffalo cant beat them when it matters b.s. On the field, the matchups favor Buffalo everywhere.  Mahomes is great.  So is Allen.  

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The 1 seed is the cheat code.   Its essentially a free playoff win, rested players and your home crowd for both games.    That's why I laugh at all people saying its just another win.  We went from 2 games back to a half game back.  That's not "just another win".    I think we go to the bowl with the 1 seed and we don't go without it.

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2 minutes ago, The 9 Isles said:

Chris Long on his latest podcast suggests that Spagnolo was holding back some of his defensive looks for the post season. I don’t know about that, it would be some 4D chess though. 

Possible.  Buffalo did not have its first and 3rd leader in targets.  Was also down its starting RT and Kc was unable to sustain a pass rush without blitzing.  Im sure Spags could get more exotic.  Overall Allen did a good job of taking advantage of the 0 blitz.  Shakir on 3-9.  Samuel TD.  They did show cover 0 and drop into cover 2 on 4-2.  Allen diagnosed it and beat it with his feet.   

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Omenihu is a good defensive end, but I don't think he makes so much of a difference to the Chiefs' defense that the Bills O-line can't protect Josh Allen.  I saw both Torrence and Van Demark handle Chris Jones one on one at various times.  In theory, Spencer Brown should be better than Van Demark.   Someone suggested that David Edwards struggled a bit Sunday, so the Chiefs might try to test him some more in a rematch, but I think the Bills can adjust to one slightly weak link in the offensive line.  Omenihu is a big strong defensive lineman and had 7 sacks a year ago, but he's not more disruptive than Chris Jones.  If Mahomes gets some of his offensive weapons (Rice and Hollywood Brown) back, he'll definitely be dangerous.  A healthy Matt Milano would help neutralize that threat.

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On 11/20/2024 at 11:19 PM, Miyagi-Do Karate said:


agreed. That’s how every game with them has been, regular season and playoffs. They all come down to 1 or 2 plays.

 

that’s why this media narrative of “can the bills beat KC in the playoffs?” Is bogus. There’s really nothing to do other than execute a play or two better near the end of the game.

 

 

Even in this game, Josh had to convert a lot of 3rd and 8s and 9s. 1 or 2 of them dont get converted because a dropped ball or something then its a different game.  What if that 4th and 2 wasnt converted (TD?)

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5 hours ago, BigAl2526 said:

Omenihu is a good defensive end, but I don't think he makes so much of a difference to the Chiefs' defense that the Bills O-line can't protect Josh Allen.  I saw both Torrence and Van Demark handle Chris Jones one on one at various times.  In theory, Spencer Brown should be better than Van Demark.   Someone suggested that David Edwards struggled a bit Sunday, so the Chiefs might try to test him some more in a rematch, but I think the Bills can adjust to one slightly weak link in the offensive line.  Omenihu is a big strong defensive lineman and had 7 sacks a year ago, but he's not more disruptive than Chris Jones.  If Mahomes gets some of his offensive weapons (Rice and Hollywood Brown) back, he'll definitely be dangerous.  A healthy Matt Milano would help neutralize that threat.

Omenihu is also coming off a torn ACL and it typically takes players a whole season of playing before they’re back to feeling how they were.

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19 hours ago, The 9 Isles said:

Chris Long on his latest podcast suggests that Spagnolo was holding back some of his defensive looks for the post season. I don’t know about that, it would be some 4D chess though. 

 

I dont know about that either. I mean we have 3 playoff games and now 4 regular season games against these guys. I have to imagine we have seen most everything he would throw at us and if that is the case what is the point in holding back. The Chiefs win and they could have locked up the 1 seed, with how important that is, I doubt they would just be willing to throw that away.

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On 11/20/2024 at 7:51 PM, PoundingDog said:

On the Chris Jones snap counts. That is a "wow"to me. Let's hope the Chiefs continue to play tight games down the stretch and they need him to exert the most in the 4th quarter every game. They probably count on the first round bye to rest key and old guys like him and Kelce.

 

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At the very least I want the Chiefs to have to battle week 18 @ Denver to maintain the top seed. Most years they rest players for most of the week 18 game. 

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On 11/21/2024 at 4:45 AM, JerseyBills said:

No reason we can't get past any of those teams, any team in the league period. @ Detroit will be interesting,  coaching just seems so locked in , McD,Brady,Babich are coaching their butts off

 

also wanted to post this somewhere,  gets me amped too

 

 

 

 

I don't love that Bernard doesn't seem to realize that the Chiefs might still be running a play even as Mahomes is walking off the field. Hope he has more awareness if the Chiefs try that again. 

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7 hours ago, Scott7975 said:

 

Even in this game, Josh had to convert a lot of 3rd and 8s and 9s. 1 or 2 of them dont get converted because a dropped ball or something then its a different game.  What if that 4th and 2 wasnt converted (TD?)


exactly. If Josh doesn’t convert that 4th down, pretty good chance the chiefs convert a few first downs and kick a FG to win that game. 

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