Sierra Foothills Posted November 20, 2024 Posted November 20, 2024 On 11/20/2024 at 8:29 PM, Beast said: I don’t know. I couldn’t care less if a division rival received 2 thirds from the NFL if I got the guy I wanted to run the football side of things. It isn’t worth settling for such an important position within an organization. Expand I agree if you think he's clearly the best person for the job, you hire him. However if it's close between he and another candidate (or two), then other factors might come into play... Quote
The Tomcat Posted November 20, 2024 Posted November 20, 2024 If Brady were to leave would Daball be the guy after he gets fired in NJ? 1 Quote
GunnerBill Posted November 20, 2024 Posted November 20, 2024 On 11/20/2024 at 9:00 PM, The Tomcat said: If Brady were to leave would Daball be the guy after he gets fired in NJ? Expand Don't think so. I mean I'd never say never if Josh lobbies for him. But I think they'd go another route. 1 Quote
BarleyNY Posted November 20, 2024 Posted November 20, 2024 On 11/20/2024 at 8:29 PM, Beast said: I don’t know. I couldn’t care less if a division rival received 2 thirds from the NFL if I got the guy I wanted to run the football side of things. It isn’t worth settling for such an important position within an organization. Expand Exactly correct. 1 Quote
Bangarang Posted November 20, 2024 Posted November 20, 2024 On 11/20/2024 at 7:46 PM, Fleezoid said: Why would Terrance Gray take that job and ruin his? Expand Because for most people, they only get one chance at these opportunities. Even if he failed, he could be like Brian Gaine and just come right back to a front office role. On 11/20/2024 at 7:46 PM, Fleezoid said: Why would Terrance Gray take that job and ruin his? Expand Because for most people, they only get one chance at these opportunities. Even if he failed, he could be like Brian Gaine and just come right back to a front office role. Quote
Malazan Posted November 20, 2024 Posted November 20, 2024 On 11/20/2024 at 9:00 PM, The Tomcat said: If Brady were to leave would Daball be the guy after he gets fired in NJ? Expand This has been answered a lot. Daboll and McDermott are not on great terms. So you can never say never, but it's very likely neither one is interested in a reunion. Even if they were on good terms.. Daboll never being able to figure out how to have even a semblance of a running game would likely generate little interest in a return. Quote
gonzo1105 Posted November 20, 2024 Posted November 20, 2024 I can't remember the thread, maybe the Joe Brady thread, that Terrance Gray was the most likely guy to leave the organization this year as he has been in a high level position here and its about his time to take on being the GM of his own team. I don't think I specifically mentioned the Jets but I think that would be a bad move for him but I also understand that not many of those opportunities come along very often. Its funny because they lost Gaine to Houston and he got fired and came back to essentially replace Schoen and its very possible that Gray gets a GM job and Schoen could get fired and return to take Gray's role. Plus Gray would come with the addition of 2 3rd round picks from the league. Quote
Billzgobowlin Posted November 20, 2024 Posted November 20, 2024 On 11/20/2024 at 8:37 PM, GASabresIUFan said: The Giants took Daboll and Schoen. How has that worked out? It's so strange that the Bills are one of the best run organizations in the NFL and the Sabres one of the worst with the same owner. Expand Here's the rub on them being with the Giants. It takes much more than two people to successfully run an organization. When Beane came on board he surrounded himself with top notch front office people. Quote
FLFan Posted November 21, 2024 Posted November 21, 2024 On 11/20/2024 at 7:27 PM, vtnatefootball11 said: https://www.espn.com/nfl/insider/story/_/id/42484947/nfl-week-12-buzz-news-updates-fantasy-tips-predictions-questions It's behind a pay wall but in brief Jeremy Fowler suggests Terrance Gray would be one of a few names on the shortlist for the Jets GM job. If that were to happen, Bills would get two extra 3rd round picks, so keep your fingers crossed! Expand Why would I keep my fingers crossed for a key piece of the Bills front office to go to their division rival for two 3rd round picks? I am sure he will eventually leave but it will not be a cause for celebration, especially if he goes to the Jets. Quote
billsfan89 Posted November 21, 2024 Posted November 21, 2024 Given how Daboll/Schoen fizzled out with the Giants maybe teams will not dip into the Bills pool too much? I doubt that, because no matter how poorly Pats coaches and executives frequently did in other stops they always got poached. Quote
f0neguy Posted November 21, 2024 Posted November 21, 2024 Considering how Gray has worked his way up through multiple good teams and proven himself at every stop it’s obvious he’ll get a shot to run a team. He will have multiple jobs to choose from so I can’t imagine he would choose to go to the Jets. Their problems start with ownership and that’s not changing. Quote
Saxum Posted November 21, 2024 Posted November 21, 2024 On 11/20/2024 at 7:59 PM, Sweats said: Wasn't Belichick getting drafting advice from his dog at one point? Expand His comment was that his dog could draft better than some of his competition's GMs. Quote
Saxum Posted November 21, 2024 Posted November 21, 2024 On 11/20/2024 at 7:52 PM, Sierra Foothills said: "The NFL's Rooney Rule rewards teams that develop minority candidates for general manager (GM) and head coach positions with compensatory draft picks: Compensation Teams receive a third-round compensatory pick for two years if they lose a minority candidate to another team. If the team loses both a coach and an executive, the pick is extended for a third year." The "problem" with the compensation aspect of the Rooney Rule is that it arguably disincentivizes a team from hiring from a divisional or even conference rival. I'd be willing to trade Gray for two 3rd round picks but I have a hard time believing that the Jets will be the team that hires him. Expand True unless that person had inside information of competition, had connections (probably factor in being hired) and could proved significant help to see it is not different from hiring a coach from another team - it helps you and it is not extra cost to you. Quote
Rubes Posted November 21, 2024 Posted November 21, 2024 I can't imagine why anyone would want to work under that owner, but if he thinks it's a good opportunity for his career, more power to him. I'll take those 3rd rounders for sure. Quote
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted November 21, 2024 Posted November 21, 2024 On 11/20/2024 at 7:30 PM, Comebackkid said: i hear Von wants to be a GM 😀 Expand GM used to make good Vons. Or was it vans? 🤔 Quote
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted November 21, 2024 Posted November 21, 2024 On 11/20/2024 at 8:21 PM, Mr. WEO said: Expand Tommy Lee Jones got fired from MiB?! 1 Quote
Comebackkid Posted November 21, 2024 Posted November 21, 2024 (edited) On 11/21/2024 at 1:01 AM, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: GM used to make good Vons. Or was it vans? 🤔 Expand you cant put wall to wall carpeting and a waterbed in a Von 🤨 Edited November 21, 2024 by Comebackkid 2 Quote
Mailman Posted November 21, 2024 Posted November 21, 2024 On 11/20/2024 at 8:37 PM, GASabresIUFan said: The Giants took Daboll and Schoen. How has that worked out? It's so strange that the Bills are one of the best run organizations in the NFL and the Sabres one of the worst with the same owner. Expand Guarantee ol' Joe Schoen will come back to Buffalo as an "advisor" to GM role. They always come back. Quote
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