Woody Johnson suggested benching Rodgers in September

[mjt328]

Despite the rivalry, part of me feels bad for Jets fans.  I remember when the Bills were that dysfunctional franchise, with a meddling owner and a revolving door of GMs/coaches/quarterbacks.  It's just a never-ending black hole of despair.

 

There is a formula for turning around a failing team.  It starts with the right owners.  Then hiring the right front office.  Then the right coaching staff.  Then drafting the right quarterback.  Then adding the right supporting cast.  We have been very fortunate that all those dominos have dropped over the past several years.  Jets fans know there is no hope in the immediate future, because they still haven't gotten step-one taken care of.  The dysfunction starts at the very top.

 

The Pegulas aren't football geniuses by any means.  They just did their best to hire the right people, provided the financial resources needed to compete and then got out of the way.  That was something that Ralph Wilson sadly wasn't able to do, especially in his later years.  Yes, the Pegulas made some mistakes along the way.  And obviously quite a bit of luck is involved in hiring the RIGHT guys.  But at least they haven't been one of the roadblocks to the team's success.

 

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

1 hour ago, MJS said:

Rex got too lazy and too married to his scheme...

🎵We get up at twelve and go to work at one 🎶

🎶Take an hour for lunch and then at two we're done!🎵

🎵Jolly good fun!🎶

[Beast]

I just hope Rodgers makes it to the Bills game. Man I’d love to see the Bills put an end to him.

[BontitaBills]

Could you imagine the Bills ending both Rodgers and Favre’s careers?  Priceless.  

[RoyBatty is alive]

14 hours ago, Scott7975 said:

Rex Ryan will be back on that dysfunctional franchise next year.

We can only dream.

[Kelly to Allen]

Do they just release Rodgers soon? I understand the cap implications but if you're moving on anyway might as well just admit the mistake now and clean house 

[co_springs_billsfan]

44 minutes ago, Beast said:

I just hope Rodgers makes it to the Bills game. Man I’d love to see the Bills put an end to him.

 

36 minutes ago, BontitaBills said:

Could you imagine the Bills ending both Rodgers and Favre’s careers?  Priceless.  

Bring back Arthur Moats as honorary captain for the Jets game!!!!

[JDubya76]

2 hours ago, TheFunPolice said:

Rex Ryan wants this job badly, to the point where he's basically openly campaigning for it now on the air. 

 

It might come down to who to hire:

 

Option A: Rex, the guy who honestly had the most success of any Jets HC in recent memory (2 AFC Title Games) and obviously has a passion and desire for the job

Option B: Some relatively unknown offensive assistant coach who will take any gig

 

 

I forgot the part about Hackett... Kept him but stripped play calling duties 

 

That locker room must be full of headcases and bad vibes right now

Supposedly he had a passion for the Bills job too, don’t let him leave the building!!! 
 

He turned into a slackazz and I’d now the prime example of someone that can get the job but not do the job. Especially if they let him hire his brother.

[aristocrat]

Best conspiracy theory I’ve heard is rodgers tanked the jets as revenge for the Covid shot lol

[RoyBatty is alive]

2 hours ago, TheFunPolice said:

Rex Ryan wants this job badly, to the point where he's basically openly campaigning for it now on the air. 

 

It might come down to who to hire:

 

Option A: Rex, the guy who honestly had the most success of any Jets HC in recent memory (2 AFC Title Games) and obviously has a passion and desire for the job

Option B: Some relatively unknown offensive assistant coach who will take any gig

 

 

I forgot the part about Hackett... Kept him but stripped play calling duties 

 

That locker room must be full of headcases and bad vibes right now

I dont think Rex wants the job, he has a sweet gig going on right now and isnt held accountable.   I dont think at his age he wants to go back to the long hours and grind of the NFL plus the jets as a destination is toxic.  

[klos63]

15 hours ago, BillsFan130 said:

What a dysfunctional organization. I love it

Makes us really appreciate the organization we have and how important it is to the continued success of the team. 

I've always liked McDermott,  but since last year,  mid-season,  everytime they show him on the sidelines I feel so good that he's the coach .

This is a special time for the team and if they finally win the big game, it will be so deserved and thy organization will forever be considered one of the great ones. 

Obviously,  I love the team right now. Just look at how they've handled the loss/aging of key players, addition of so many rookies and new veterans.  Just tremendous. 

[TheFunPolice]

1 hour ago, RoyBatty is alive said:

I dont think Rex wants the job, he has a sweet gig going on right now and isnt held accountable.   I dont think at his age he wants to go back to the long hours and grind of the NFL plus the jets as a destination is toxic.  

 

He absolutely wants it. He's openly saying on the air that he wants the Jets job and would do it "in a second"

[msw2112]

52 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said:

 

He absolutely wants it. He's openly saying on the air that he wants the Jets job and would do it "in a second"

 

I don't watch pregame shows anymore, but it seems crazy to me that he'd want to do that at this point in his life.  He's made millions, and I'm sure he's well paid by ESPN to sit on his fat ass with his bright white horse teeth and spew commentary.  He has plenty of time to head home and munch on his wife's toes, go on bike rides with his obese brother, etc.  Why would he trade that for a grueling job from which he'd be fired within 2 years?

 

I don't hate Rex, but there's a lot there that's ripe for comedy.  Despite the fact that he set the Bills back a few years, and I was beside myself when the Bills hired him, he'd probably be a fun guy to have a few beers with.  I don't watch enough pregame to know, but I suspect he's a pretty entertaining on-air personality.

Edited November 20 by msw2112

[TheFunPolice]

1 hour ago, msw2112 said:

 

I don't watch pregame shows anymore, but it seems crazy to me that he'd want to do that at this point in his life.  He's made millions, and I'm sure he's well paid by ESPN to sit on his fat ass with his bright white horse teeth and spew commentary.  He has plenty of time to head home and munch on his wife's toes, go on bike rides with his obese brother, etc.  Why would he trade that for a grueling job from which he'd be fired within 2 years?

 

I don't hate Rex, but there's a lot there that's ripe for comedy.  Despite the fact that he set the Bills back a few years, and I was beside myself when the Bills hired him, he'd probably be a fun guy to have a few beers with.  I don't watch enough pregame to know, but I suspect he's a pretty entertaining on-air personality.

 

I thought the same, that he was happy being out of the grind. 

 

47:45 (ish) is where Rex talks about wanting to get back into coaching... 

 

Interestingly, he also says he never wanted to be out of coaching but nobody ever called. 

 

 

Edited November 20 by TheFunPolice

[Matt_In_NH]

I wonder when Rodgers is gonna fire Woody Johnson?

[Augie]

18 hours ago, gomper said:

I'm sure Jets fans are beside themselves and feel helpless due to the owner. I have no love for the Jets, but that's a horrible place for a fan base to be.

 

I’m sure they all wish Rodgers figures out a way to get the owner fired. If anybody can handle that next level stuff, it’s Mr Darkness. 

[BillsFan4]

Saying Woody is a problem is putting it lightly. Holy cow…

 

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5933929/2024/11/19/joe-douglas-new-york-jets-gm-fired/

 

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Douglas had already lost some power midway through last season when Johnson took a more active role. Example: Douglas had a contract extension offer he was getting ready to propose to defensive end Bryce Huff’s agent, but Johnson vetoed that — and any other moves involving paying new money to players on the roster. By January, Douglas seemed to have even less control. That’s when he fired assistant general manager Rex Hogan, a move that shocked many in the organization because of how close Douglas and Hogan — and their families — were. Multiple team sources theorized that Johnson forced Douglas’s hand; in the aftermath, Douglas told Jets staffers that “Woody should just fire me now.” In February, director of player personnel Chad Alexander left for an assistant GM job with the Los Angeles Chargers; Johnson didn’t allow Douglas to replace either of them.

 

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Douglas pursued a trade with the Denver Broncos for wide receiver Jerry Jeudy, offering Allen Lazard and a Day 2 draft pick, according to a league source, but Johnson nixed it.

 

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When offensive tackle Tyron Smith and wide receiver Mike Williams lingered after the initial wave of free-agent signings, the Jets pursued both. Multiple team sources believe this was a matter of Johnson’s preoccupation with social media factoring into the Jets’ decision-making. Douglas went along. He offered an incentive-laden one-year, $6.5 million deal worth up to $20 million with various playing-time incentives. What Douglas didn’t expect: No other teams (including the Dallas Cowboys, where Smith had spent his whole career) had expressed interest in signing Smith — so the former All-Pro accepted the Jets’ offer. The 33-year-old has allowed the most sacks of Jets offensive linemen and is currently out with a neck injury. Williams, coming off a torn ACL, also signed for a one-year, incentive-laden deal that didn’t work out.

 

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If it wasn’t obvious how involved Johnson was in the operation before this season started, it became clearer in October, when Saleh was fired. Johnson explained that he felt the Jets had the most talented roster the franchise had assembled in his 25 years as owner and he wanted to find a spark before it was too late, promoting Ulbrich to interim head coach. The line about the roster talent was presumably an endorsement of the work Douglas had done over the past few years, but multiple sources within the organization viewed it as more of an endorsement of the roster that Johnson felt that hehad built.

 

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On Oct. 15, Johnson pushed Douglas to trade for star Raiders wide receiver Davante Adams, giving up a conditional third-round pick — far more than other teams traded for top wide receivers at the deadline. The next day, Johnson told reporters at the owners meetings in Atlanta that “you know, thinking is overrated. You have to look forward. We have to look forward to the games we’re going to play each and every week and try to win all of them … you just have to go with your instinct and what’s the best thing to build a team.”

 

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On Sunday, the Jets benched starting safety Tony Adams at the behest of Johnson, according to a team source. Johnson also wanted the Jets to practice during their bye week, which didn’t go over well with some of the locker room’s leaders.

 

Good luck hiring a new GM. Why would any potential GM or head coaching candidate with options even take an interview there?

[SageAgainstTheMachine]

Woody Johnson and David Tepper are the AFC and NFC's "League Taco" respectively.

[NoHuddleKelly12]

22 hours ago, Scott7975 said:

Rex Ryan will be back on that dysfunctional franchise next year.

He’s basically their coaching GOAT…sad 😂

[dave mcbride]

13 hours ago, BillsFan4 said:

Saying Woody is a problem is putting it lightly. Holy cow…

 

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5933929/2024/11/19/joe-douglas-new-york-jets-gm-fired/

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Good luck hiring a new GM. Why would any potential GM or head coaching candidate with options even take an interview there?

I was just about to post this!!

 

Ya just hate to see it. 🙂