MVP hype for Allen

[Buffalo716]

5 hours ago, John Gianelli said:

Sideline reporter Aditi Kinkhsbwala just said she is one of the 50 MVP voters? Makes me wonder about the award.

She's definitely not one of the 50 AP writers with a vote

 

Probably pwfa

Edited Monday at 02:11 AM by Buffalo716

[zow2]

Didnt Josh have about 30 points vs Detroit by now. lol  Darnold, zippo 

[Thrivefourfive]

4 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

She's definitely not one of the 50 AP writers with a vote

 

Probably pwfa

She’s voting for Allen, in her words, “he does more with less.”

 

This will be the reason given by the majority of voters for his getting the award 

 

Edited Monday at 02:13 AM by Thrivefourfive

[Buffalo716]

6 minutes ago, Thrivefourfive said:

She’s voting for Allen, in her words, “he does more with less.”

 

This will be the reason given by the majority of voters for his getting the award 

 

I don't care if she was voting for Santa Claus LOL my only point was she's definitely not one of the 50 AP writers with a vote

[Thrivefourfive]

2 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

I don't care if she was voting for Santa Claus LOL my only point was she's definitely not one of the 50 AP writers with a vote

Who are the other voters outside of the 50 AP?

[NoSaint]

40 minutes ago, folz said:

 

 

First of all, Brees averaged 12.8 interceptions per season (in seasons when he was the starter). In the prime of his career (a 13-year stretch of big numbers), he averaged 15 INTs per season.

 

I also think you forgot to weigh in the fact that Drew Brees had more attempts per game than any other QB in history. More attempts = more interceptions. For example, Lamar throws 10 passes fewer per game than Brees did (that would be 170 fewer attempts per season---with 17-game seasons).

 

Brees is actually 12th all-time in TD/INT ratio. Ahead of guys like Peyton, Hurts, Allen, Ryan, Luck, Stafford, Young, Montana, Marino, etc. Yes, he threw a lot of INTs, but on a lot of attempts and along with a TON of yards and TDs.

 

We are talking about Lamar getting 4,172 passing yards (with 915 rush for 5,087 yards total). Brees had 12 seasons with 4,300+ passing yards, 8 season with 4,600+ passing yards. He had 5 seasons with 5,000+ passing yards and was only 178 yards away from having seven 5,000 yard passing season (only Mahome and Brady were able to do that more than once---two times each, compared to Drew's 5). Not taking anything away from Lamar, but Brees had 4 seasons with more total yards than Lamar has this year (and was only 19 yards away from having a 5th season with more yards than Lamar's 2024).

 

Over a 9-year span, Brees averaged 37 TDs per season. Yes, he only went over 40 TDs twice, but 37 a year is nothing to sniff at.

 

That is all way too much high-level consistency to have his career be summed up as padding stats/turnover machine. How do you pad stats across 12 NFL seasons?

 

I don't know if he ever deserved the MVP over the other guys, but let's not just dismiss how great he was.

as a saints season ticket holder for most of his career- it was something special to watch. 
 

before his arm died the last year or two he was just such a good passer.

[ChrisWatson#21]

2 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said:

FanDuel disagrees.  Big lead

Josh  -470

Lamar +360

This thing is over!

Yup.  And the only reason Lamar is at +360 is because all other candidates aren’t getting any play.  It’s a 100% lock.

[The Wiz]

6 minutes ago, ChrisWatson#21 said:

Yup.  And the only reason Lamar is at +360 is because all other candidates aren’t getting any play.  It’s a 100% lock.

I feel like Lamar dropped and Allen improved after last night.  They were -250 and +300 I believe before the Ravens/Browns game.

[Chicken Boo]

1 hour ago, folz said:

 

 

First of all, Brees averaged 12.8 interceptions per season (in seasons when he was the starter). In the prime of his career (a 13-year stretch of big numbers), he averaged 15 INTs per season.

 

I also think you forgot to weigh in the fact that Drew Brees had more attempts per game than any other QB in history. More attempts = more interceptions. For example, Lamar throws 10 passes fewer per game than Brees did (that would be 170 fewer attempts per season---with 17-game seasons).

 

Brees is actually 12th all-time in TD/INT ratio. Ahead of guys like Peyton, Hurts, Allen, Ryan, Luck, Stafford, Young, Montana, Marino, etc. Yes, he threw a lot of INTs, but on a lot of attempts and along with a TON of yards and TDs.

 

We are talking about Lamar getting 4,172 passing yards (with 915 rush for 5,087 yards total). Brees had 12 seasons with 4,300+ passing yards, 8 season with 4,600+ passing yards. He had 5 seasons with 5,000+ passing yards and was only 178 yards away from having seven 5,000 yard passing season (only Mahome and Brady were able to do that more than once---two times each, compared to Drew's 5). Not taking anything away from Lamar, but Brees had 4 seasons with more total yards than Lamar has this year (and was only 19 yards away from having a 5th season with more yards than Lamar's 2024).

 

Over a 9-year span, Brees averaged 37 TDs per season. Yes, he only went over 40 TDs twice, but 37 a year is nothing to sniff at.

 

That is all way too much high-level consistency to have his career be summed up as padding stats/turnover machine. How do you pad stats across 12 NFL seasons?

 

I don't know if he ever deserved the MVP over the other guys, but let's not just dismiss how great he was.

 

You conveniently left out his fumbles.  

[CincyBillsFan]

Well so far tonight the dark horse MVP campaigns of Goff & Darnold are going down the toilet.

 

 

[CSBill]

3 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said:

Well so far tonight the dark horse MVP campaigns of Goff & Darnold are going down the toilet.

 

 

 

yuup

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

5 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said:

Well so far tonight the dark horse MVP campaigns of Goff & Darnold are going down the toilet.

 

 

Flores has gotta be chuckling to himself watching what’s going on with Miami now that he’s with minny lol doing a heck of a job against Detroit right now 

Edited Monday at 03:20 AM by Generic_Bills_Fan

[Chugga]

1 hour ago, Buffalo716 said:

I don't care if she was voting for Santa Claus LOL my only point was she's definitely not one of the 50 AP writers with a vote

I don’t think the list is as prestigious as you think it is.  I don’t think the announcers were lying she likely has a vote.  Look at last years list of voters it’s not awe inspiring.

[Doc]

Just now, Chugga said:

I don’t think the list is as prestigious as you think it is.  I don’t think the announcers were lying she likely has a vote.  Look at last years list of voters it’s not awe inspiring.

 

It would be odd for them/her to misrepresent her having an authentic (meaning not CBS) MVP vote. 

[Process]

1 hour ago, Buffalo716 said:

I don't care if she was voting for Santa Claus LOL my only point was she's definitely not one of the 50 AP writers with a vote

Why not? Doesn't that blonde chick who hosts TNF pre game show have a vote? There's a bunch of random people. 

[LABILLBACKER]

28 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said:

Well so far tonight the dark horse MVP campaigns of Goff & Darnold are going down the toilet.

 

 

These 2 were 5th & 6th in the voting anyway. They had nice seasons but there nowhere near the level of Josh & Lamar.

[Kelly to Allen]

Allen had the lowest negative plays in NFL history for any QB ever, EVER!!! EVVVVEEERRRRR....!!!!!

 

ints, fumbles,sacks

 

Lowest ever..... 

[Doc]

Just now, Kelly to Allen said:

Allen had the lowest negative plays in NFL history for any QB ever, EVER!!! EVVVVEEERRRRR....!!!!!

 

ints, fumbles,sacks

 

Lowest ever..... 

 

Yup.  And over 40 TDs.  And a barely 1,000 RB and no 1,000 yard receiver.

[CincyBillsFan]

The Lions dominating win over the Vikings in which late in the 4th quarter Minn still hasn't scored a TD also helps Allen's case for MVP.  That victory at Detroit where Allen had a fantastic game looks even better today. 

Edited Monday at 04:08 AM by CincyBillsFan

[Ralonzo]

4 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said:

The Lions dominating win over the Vikings in which late in the 4th quarter Minn still hasn't scored a TD also helps Allen's case for MVP.  That victory at Detroit where Allen had a fantastic game looks even better today. 

 

You would think the Bills had the lesser personnel to completely filet the Lions man scheme compared to the weapons the Vikings have, but what you really need is a QB who doesn't see ghosts and will fit it in there.