MVP hype for Allen

[UKBillFan]

35 minutes ago, BobbyC81 said:

Who cares about MVP?

 

I want a Super Bowl Victory before I move on.

 

If the Bills don’t make it to the Super Bowl but Josh got MVP will any of you think/say “Well at least Josh got MVP”?

 

I won’t.

 

This year, I would. I don't think the defense is good enough for a Super Bowl appearance, let alone victory. They're more likely to see the Bills rolled in the Divisional or Championship game. That and/or more coaching issues under pressure. Josh getting the MVP will be the least he deserves after he's, in all likelihood, let down again.

[Kelly to Allen]

 

[Kelly to Allen]

18 minutes ago, UKBillFan said:

 

This year, I would. I don't think the defense is good enough for a Super Bowl appearance, let alone victory. They're more likely to see the Bills rolled in the Divisional or Championship game. That and/or more coaching issues under pressure. Josh getting the MVP will be the least he deserves after he's, in all likelihood, let down again.

 

The bills could have an all time defense. It could still be a let down vs mahomes. 

 

The defense is more than good enough. But it's a moot point because Allen and the offense is about to have a historic run in the playoffs 

 

 

[Mr. WEO]

13 hours ago, Beck Water said:

 

Yo, Mr. Straw, did I call Arnold a "game manager" or say he was a game manager on that team?

 

Saying he is elevated by having the 3 receivers he has and the run game they have, which I did, is not an equivalent statement.

[Last season, Jefferson missed 7 games and Addison was a rookie, so no, the receiver corps was not there all of last year. And they didn't have as good of a run game, no Aaron Jones]

 

 

 

No, you didn't say that--I'm making a declaration.  I'm pointing out that he's not some decent QB who walked onto a SB team and was "elevated" to 14 wins, playing for the #1 seed (i.e. a game manager).

 

True Jefferson was out part of the season last year (he played in 10 games), but the 14-2 Vikings are better than the 2022 Cousins Vikings. And while Jones is having a nice little season (no better than Cook was), no one is attributing any of this success to him---only Darnold.  

 

If you have been watching him play, Darnold is showing amazing touch, accuracy and confidence.  He's top 5 in yards, TDs, rating, yards per attempt, yards per game, TD%-----despite being 12th in passing attempts. 

 

He's lighting it up. He's dropping bombs. He is elevating this team.

Edited Wednesday at 01:32 PM by Mr. WEO

[Stretch]

The Athletic just released an article with all of their end of season awards and they gave the Lamar the MVP.  I refuse to believe it will actually happen, but what a slap in the face if it does.  Maybe they can stop making Offensive Player of the year award the best non-QB for this year and throw that to Lamar.  He has great stats, but Josh is definitely the most valuable to his team.  I don’t see that happening after Barkley breaks the rushing record this week though.

Edited Wednesday at 02:06 PM by Stretch

[loveorhatembillsfan4life]

33 minutes ago, Stretch said:

The Athletic just released an article with all of their end of season awards and they gave the Lamar the MVP.  I refuse to believe it will actually happen, but what a slap in the face if it does.  Maybe they can stop making Offensive Player of the year award the best non-QB for this year and throw that to Lamar.  He has great stats, but Josh is definitely the most valuable to his team.  I Donny see that happening after Barkley breaks the rushing record this week though.

The writer goes out of his way to mention not having a top ten Wr but doesn’t once  mention having Henry on the team and the impact he brings..

 

So many of these guys are missing the point in my opinion. 

[TheyCallMeAndy]

On 12/25/2024 at 8:36 PM, DapperCam said:

We don’t need to imagine it. It happened last year. These discussions don’t happen in a vacuum.

We are forgetting that Allen threw 18 picks last year and lead the league in total turn overs.

 

Jackson even has less turnovers than Allen this year.

 

Love Allen, hope he gets it, and Jackson has more help, but LJ should be the front runner. 

[Stretch]

What was the stat that the Bills are second all-time in to the 2008 Patriots at like 3.12 yards?  I thought it was yards per play, but I guess that is not it.

[Kirby Jackson]

Just now, TheyCallMeAndy said:

We are forgetting that Allen threw 18 picks last year and lead the league in total turn overs.

 

Jackson even has less turnovers than Allen this year.

 

Love Allen, hope he gets it, and Jackson has more help, but LJ should be the front runner. 

[Doc]

4 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said:

We are forgetting that Allen threw 18 picks last year and lead the league in total turn overs.

 

Jackson even has less turnovers than Allen this year.

 

Love Allen, hope he gets it, and Jackson has more help, but LJ should be the front runner. 

 

[Stretch]

Yeah, Lamar has 2 less INts, but 3 more lost fumbles (and 5 more total fumbles) than Josh this year.

[TheyCallMeAndy]

7 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

 

2 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

Whoops, Jackson is +1 due to fumbles. 

[Doc]

9 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said:

Whoops, Jackson is +1 due to fumbles. 

 

Yup.  Fewer sacks as well.  And no 1,000 yard (much less almost 2,000 yard) rusher or 1,000 yard receiver. 

[CA OC Bills Fan]

26 minutes ago, Stretch said:

What was the stat that the Bills are second all-time in to the 2008 Patriots at like 3.12 yards?  I thought it was yards per play, but I guess that is not it.

I think the stat was points per drive, 3.12 ppd is 2nd to 2008 Patriots who had something like 3.89.

[Coach Tuesday]

Wouldn’t be the worst thing if Lamar wins it and then we host them in the playoffs with a point to prove.  As opposed to the other way around…

[Stretch]

30 minutes ago, Stretch said:

What was the stat that the Bills are second all-time in to the 2008 Patriots at like 3.12 yards?  I thought it was yards per play, but I guess that is not it.

I found it, it is points per drive.

1 minute ago, Coach Tuesday said:

Wouldn’t be the worst thing if Lamar wins it and then we host them in the playoffs with a point to prove.  As opposed to the other way around…

It would be cool to know it before that game, but the award is announced the day before the Super Bowl.

[BananaB]

35 minutes ago, Stretch said:

Yeah, Lamar has 2 less INts, but 3 more lost fumbles (and 5 more total fumbles) than Josh this year.

1 being in OT, in his own territory that set up a missed Cinci FG try. That’s not really MVP play, if that’s was Josh they would hold that against him for 2 years. And then Henry has a big run after the missed FG that  basically gave the Ravens the W. 

[Beck Water]

54 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said:

We are forgetting that Allen threw 18 picks last year and lead the league in total turn overs.

 

Jackson even has less turnovers than Allen this year.

 

Love Allen, hope he gets it, and Jackson has more help, but LJ should be the front runner. 

 

False statement. 

 

Jackson has 4 interceptions and 10 fumbles (5 lost) giving him 9 turnovers

Allen has 6 interceptions and 5 fumbles (2 lost) giving him 8 turnovers

9 is not less than 8

Therefore Jackson has more turnovers than Allen this year.  2 fewer interceptions, but fumbles count as turnovers.

 

[Einstein]

What I find interesting is that the Ravens go run heavy when they are losing.

In other words, they put the game in Henry's hands... instead of Lamar.


 

[Kelly to Allen]

2 hours ago, Stretch said:

The Athletic just released an article with all of their end of season awards and they gave the Lamar the MVP.  I refuse to believe it will actually happen, but what a slap in the face if it does.  Maybe they can stop making Offensive Player of the year award the best non-QB for this year and throw that to Lamar.  He has great stats, but Josh is definitely the most valuable to his team.  I don’t see that happening after Barkley breaks the rushing record this week though.

It's already over man. It's -420. Broussaard already said he's going to win it 

 

 

1 hour ago, TheyCallMeAndy said:

We are forgetting that Allen threw 18 picks last year and lead the league in total turn overs.

 

Jackson even has less turnovers than Allen this year.

 

Love Allen, hope he gets it, and Jackson has more help, but LJ should be the front runner. 

 

Kurt Warner won MVP with more ints

Kurt Warner won MVP with more turnovers 

 

No Josh Allen didn't lead the NFL in turnovers