MVP hype for Allen

[The Wiz]

2 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said:

Sure, the playoffs are more important. But the MVP will be decided ( not announced) before the playoffs even start. 

I know, just making the point is all.

 

Same as Allen said, "these shirts and hats are nice but I want the ones that say super bowl champions"

[Big Blitz]

Disgusting. 

[Punch]

43 minutes ago, BillytheKid said:

Has nothing to do with running out of time. It isn’t a coin flip. 
 

I'm talking about the actual odds in Vegas.

 

what I stated is fact. Has nothing to do with your opinion or your feeling on the subject. 
 

it’s not 2-1. Right now Allen has over 71% chance of winning it on implied odds. 
 

Like I said if Allen is still favored after Sundays game then he will win the award. 

The odds are shifting based in part on opinions publicly offered by the media talking heads, some of whom are MVP voters. I think Allen should win and very well may, but the odds aren't a true predictor and the probability you're extrapolating isn't realistic or mathematically sound. Even if Allen has the better odds at season's end, the voters can still vote for Lamar, that isn't meant to be provocative, it's common sense.

 

Vegas betting odds are designed to draw the most betting dollars, not accurately predict an outcome. I hope Allen wins, but its most certainly 50-50 right now in the minds of voters and all the headlines are hyperbolically calling Lamar's season an "historic run to MVP".

[Boatdrinks]

12 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

Disgusting. 

Idiots. What about the way Josh Allen plays football would possibly make one think he’s satisfied with a playoff loss ? 

1 minute ago, Punch said:

The odds are shifting based in part on opinions publicly offered by the media talking heads, some of whom are MVP voters. I think Allen should win and very well may, but the odds aren't a true predictor and the probability you're extrapolating isn't realistic or mathematically sound. Even if Allen has the better odds at season's end, the voters can still vote for Lamar, that isn't meant to be provocative, it's common sense.

 

Vegas betting odds are designed to draw the most betting dollars, not accurately predict an outcome. I hope Allen wins, but its most certainly 50-50 right now in the minds of voters and all the headlines are hyperbolically calling Lamar's season an "historic run to MVP".

I highly doubt it’s 50/50 right now in the minds of the 50 voters. “ most certainly” seems hyperbolic. 

[CincyBillsFan]

17 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

Disgusting. 

Unfortunately this piece of garbage is typical of the morons that pass themselves off as NFL "expert" talking heads.  It's poorly researched contradicting what Allen just said while at the same time slandering who Allen is as a QB. 

 

 

[The Wiz]

5 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said:

Unfortunately this piece of garbage is typical of the morons that pass themselves off as NFL "expert" talking heads.  It's poorly researched contradicting what Allen just said while at the same time slandering who Allen is as a QB. 

 

 

Well he's a former Jet so I'm not surprised at the lack of intelligence and critical thinking skills.

[Punch]

9 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said:

Idiots. What about the way Josh Allen plays football would possibly make one think he’s satisfied with a playoff loss ? 

I highly doubt it’s 50/50 right now in the minds of the 50 voters. “ most certainly” seems hyperbolic. 

I do think it's close to deadlocked overall based on the overwhelming media swing toward Lamar after last night's game, but I didn't say its 50-50 in the minds of every single voter.

 

If Josh has a statistically mediocre game on Sunday (regardless of the outcome) the odds will shift to Lamar. He needs to play well and end the season on a high note.

[Success]

26 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

Disgusting. 

 

Reminds me of when Whitlock said that Allen doesn't have that "dog" in him.

 

I'd love to be a sports analyst, but I don't have the big clown shoes that the job requires.

 

[Punch]

28 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

Disgusting. 

I'm convinced many of the former players in television don't even watch the games. After the Detroit game, Ryan Fitzpatrick and Andrew Whitworth were on the Rich Eisen Show and Whit insisted Lamar should win MVP because Allen's best games were early in the season and he hadn't played well of late.

 

Again, this was after the Detroit game! Josh was an historic one man wrecking crew over the prior two weeks, not to mention balling out against KC and San Fran! He was arguably in the midst of the greatest stretch of his career, and Whit was nonchalantly pooh-poohing him because Lamar Jackson blew out the Giants.

[Process]

I mean can we just say it how it is? Bart Scott is a racist ****ing loser. ESPN employs a bunch of them. Clown network. 

[TheFunPolice]

4 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

BS. Harbaugh is a great coach but has a higher winning % with Lamar as a qb. And what system? You talking about the Roman system? You mean the one that has taken one of the best young passers in Herbert and made him a game manger? Or the new system where Lamar is throwing for 40 tds and 4.000 yards with future HOF WRs Zay Flowers and Bateman? 
 

maybe the guy who won MVPs in both systems is the system. This trying to cheapen who Jackson is as a player is lazy and out dates Polian crap. Maybe the guy who won a Heisman at Louisville with 0 nfl players on offense and multiple MVPs is just a really great qb. But nah that can’t be it. Must be every system he is in because he “is different.”

 

that said, Allen is the MVP.

 

I actually like Lamar.

 

If he wins it all I'll be happy for him since it won't be against us.

 

 

 

 

4 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

This is hindsight. There was plenty of talk about Peyton being a regular season star passer before he won. He could never win a big game in college and Tennessee won the national championship the year after he left. It was dumb. 
 

And Belichick before and after Brady has been an average to slightly below average head coach. Fun fact, Tony Dungy has a better record without BB than BB has without Brady. 

 

Fun fact: Belichick's defensive gameplan that shut down the seemingly unstoppable K Gun offense in the super bowl is in the HOF 

[T.E.]

48 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

Disgusting. 

Pretty big elephant in the room about how all the NFL analysts and players who seemingly hate Josh Allen have one thing in common. Can't bring that up, though!

[GoBills808]

tbh at this point I hope Lamar wins it just because it would be funny to live in a world where he has 3 MVPs and Allen has zero

[Buffalo Ballin]

Who knows if these "Sports analysts" talking heads on these shows hate Josh Allen. Who cares. They don't matter because they're not the ones casting the ballots.

 

They're there to create a close race. But in reality, Vegas (as of right now) says that it's NOT CLOSE. It's Josh Allen's MVP award to lose.

 

- Vegas is correct MOST of the time.

- TV Talking heads are wrong MOST of the time.

 

Let's play Devil's Advocate. Let's say that Lamar Jackson gets his 3rd league MVP award. So what? Don't hate. Congratulate.

 

We'll send Lamar Jackson and the Ravens fishing even harder. Remember, we're the ones with the better record if we face each other in the playoffs. Game will be on our turf. Ravens can admire his 3rd MVP award, on a boat, watching us play in the Super Bowl.

 

 

Edited 14 hours ago by Buffalo Ballin

[Punch]

2 minutes ago, Buffalo Ballin said:

Who knows if these "Sports analysts" talking heads on these shows hate Josh Allen. Who cares. They don't matter because they're not the ones casting the ballots.

 

They're there to create a close race. But in reality, Vegas (as of right now) says that it's NOT CLOSE. It's Josh Allen's MVP award to lose.

 

- Vegas is correct MOST of the time.

- TV Talking heads are wrong MOST of the time.

 

Let's play Devil's Advocate. Let's say that Lamar Jackson gets his 3rd league MVP award. So what? Don't hate. Congratulate.

 

We'll send Lamar Jackson and the Ravens fishing even harder. Remember, we're the ones with the better record if we face each other in the playoffs. Game will be on our turf. They can admire his 3rd MVP award on a boat watching us play in the Super Bowl.

 

 

 

The voters casting the ballots are all talking heads or writers.

 

 

 

[The Wiz]

1 hour ago, T.E. said:

Pretty big elephant in the room about how all the NFL analysts and players who seemingly hate Josh Allen have one thing in common. Can't bring that up, though!

Former defensive players have feeling too!  😂

[DJB]

Also RG3 can’t help himself but gush over Lamar at any chance 

 

Not saying he’s racist but it’s pretty obvious that RG3 is a fan of Lamar and other same skinned players and rarely supports white players 

[The Wiz]

7 minutes ago, DJB said:

Also RG3 can’t help himself but gush over Lamar at any chance 

 

Not saying he’s racist but it’s pretty obvious that RG3 is a fan of Lamar and other same skinned players and rarely supports white players 

Before throwing anything out like that, take it into context.  These guys live moment to moment with their praise and hate.  It's what drives the media, their content and their cashflow.  They are paid to flipflop at any and every chance they get.  Hell, the Chiefs are 14-1 and people are talking bad about Mahomes (rightfully so since it's been his worst year in a long time).  But now, they have the #1 seed and "oh he's been playing without his #1 WR and #1RB for the full season so maybe we should have a little more respect for what he has done"

Just take it all with a grain of salt.  It means nothing in the long run.

 

 

EDIT:

And I will say, it's really interesting seeing/hearing all of these guys on their tv shows vs their podcasts.  Everyone hates Nick Wright for what he has said about Allen and the Bills over the years but not many listen to his pods is my guess because he usually gives a lot of credit to Allen on them.

 

Edited 13 hours ago by The Wiz

[major]

Let Lamar win the MVP and let’s go win the Super Bowl 

[zow2]

RG3 was Lamar’s backup for a season or two.  They are pretty tight I think.  

 

I just don’t get how Lamar got all the national accolades for scoring 5 TDs vs the Giants.  On the same day as Allen defeated the Lions, a much tougher opponent.  Those games were not even in stature but they somehow pulled Lamar closer to Allen in the minds of media. Since that day, all the momentum has swung to LJ.