MVP hype for Allen

[VaMilBill]

Really what it is gonna take for josh to win MVP are the voters, or a select few, making an argument for josh to win. Sticking to more in-depth statistics such as EPA. But also bringing up the point of Josh’s big wins, how early they locked up the AFC East, Lamar having a potential OPOY candidate on his team in King Henry. Most importantly, in my mind, is having a consistent standard from last year. Josh hasn’t lost us any games this year. Yeah he stats aren’t nearly as good as Lamar’s from this year, but the roles were pretty much exactly reversed. 
 

if they were to give Lamar the MVP, I honestly think there would be some sort of major media bias against Josh / some sort of love affair with Lamar. 
 

that being said, josh really does need to have a great game Sunday to put the race to bed, even if he sits week 18. 

[thenorthremembers]

11 minutes ago, Mikie2times said:

Cool, I will update my tat to say 2020’s regular season champions next to my 1990’s one. 

 

No way you have a tattoo.   Imagine all the bad things that may happen.

Edited 11 hours ago by thenorthremembers

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

8 minutes ago, GolfandBills said:

Well Rapport is tweeting about Lamar pushing for MVP so… 

I wouldn’t say Lamar isn’t pushing for it lol  he’s still considerably behind though.  If he wasn’t playing well it would’ve been locked up for Josh after the lions win with zero paths for Lamar to win it 

[Big Turk]

3 minutes ago, VaMilBill said:

Really what it is gonna take for josh to win MVP are the voters, or a select few, making an argument for josh to win. Sticking to more in-depth statistics such as EPA. But also bringing up the point of Josh’s big wins, how early they locked up the AFC East, Lamar having a potential OPOY candidate on his team in King Henry. Most importantly, in my mind, is having a consistent standard from last year. Josh hasn’t lost us any games this year. Yeah he stats aren’t nearly as good as Lamar’s from this year, but the roles were pretty much exactly reversed. 
 

if they were to give Lamar the MVP, I honestly think there would be some sort of major media bias against Josh / some sort of love affair with Lamar. 
 

that being said, josh really does need to have a great game Sunday to put the race to bed, even if he sits week 18. 

 

That's my whole point. If Allen doesn't win MVP the voters need to be investigated for collusion and/or some sort of personal vendetta against Allen.

[stuvian]

When was the last time a league mvp won the Superbowl? We have bigger things to think about 

[Mikie2times]

3 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said:

 

No way you have a tattoo.   Imagine all the bad things that may happen.

Right above my a$$ in cursive 

Edited 11 hours ago by Mikie2times

[thenorthremembers]

Just now, Mikie2times said:

Right above my ass in cursive 

At the very least its classy.

[Billsfanatic8989]

2 minutes ago, stuvian said:

When was the last time a league mvp won the Superbowl? We have bigger things to think about 

Two years ago...Mahomes

[boyst]

9 minutes ago, VaMilBill said:

Really what it is gonna take for josh to win MVP are the voters, or a select few, making an argument for josh to win. Sticking to more in-depth statistics such as EPA. But also bringing up the point of Josh’s big wins, how early they locked up the AFC East, Lamar having a potential OPOY candidate on his team in King Henry. Most importantly, in my mind, is having a consistent standard from last year. Josh hasn’t lost us any games this year. Yeah he stats aren’t nearly as good as Lamar’s from this year, but the roles were pretty much exactly reversed. 
 

if they were to give Lamar the MVP, I honestly think there would be some sort of major media bias against Josh / some sort of love affair with Lamar. 
 

that being said, josh really does need to have a great game Sunday to put the race to bed, even if he sits week 18. 

Lamar deserves it more than ever but he didn't deserve it the first two times he got it. 

[Billsfanatic8989]

9 minutes ago, VaMilBill said:

Really what it is gonna take for josh to win MVP are the voters, or a select few, making an argument for josh to win. Sticking to more in-depth statistics such as EPA. But also bringing up the point of Josh’s big wins, how early they locked up the AFC East, Lamar having a potential OPOY candidate on his team in King Henry. Most importantly, in my mind, is having a consistent standard from last year. Josh hasn’t lost us any games this year. Yeah he stats aren’t nearly as good as Lamar’s from this year, but the roles were pretty much exactly reversed. 
 

if they were to give Lamar the MVP, I honestly think there would be some sort of major media bias against Josh / some sort of love affair with Lamar. 
 

that being said, josh really does need to have a great game Sunday to put the race to bed, even if he sits week 18. 

This.

 

Needs 3 total TD's minimum. No picks. Just an overall great game. 

 

Unfortunately, if it's a repeat of the NE game, it's going to be very tough for him to win. 

[zow2]

13 minutes ago, UKBillFan said:

 

If there's another "vanilla" performance at the weekend, would you still be confident in Josh getting MVP? For me, he's currently in the driving seat but cannot afford to put in an average or worse performance to stay there.

 

I don’t know, RG3 has already proclaimed that Lamar has won the MVP so i’m not sure if voting is still open?!?  

 

After the Detroit game Cowherd on his Monday show said Allen is the best player he’s ever seen. Then 7 days later he said Lamar should be MVP (before todays game).

 

It sorta feels like Josh has to re-open the voting and win it back this Sunday!

 

 

[Process]

There is so much recency bias in awards like MVP. Said it before but the schedule played heavily in Lamar's favor. Even if Allen balls Sunday, he's not going to get credit for it because it's the jets. Then he sits. 

[Billsfanatic8989]

It would be infuriating to see Allen not win MVP and the team not make the SB. A double whammy. 

 

 

[zow2]

Is it even possible to go from a gigantic -1000 betting favorite on December 16th to not winning the MVP….without having lost a game? 

That would be incredible. But as Bills fans we have seen our share of the rug pulled out from under us.

[Playoffs?]

46 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

Go ahead and do it then you will make a ton of money if correct lol the current odds do not support what you’re saying at all.  Josh’s implied probability of winning it is about 84% which seems pretty accurate to me. 
 

heck I think if he plays pretty bad against the jets and still wins he’ll still win mvp even.  Really needs to lose to the jets to cough it up imo 

Believe me man, I hear you… and again, I’d give it to Josh all day based on the circumstances… but I am not the voters…  I want to be wrong, but this MVP stuff goes like the wind blows. All the momentum is with Lamar now.  
 

I’d be very curious to know, if you polled all NFL GMs, who they’d take as their starting QB right now..

[Billsfanatic8989]

3 minutes ago, Process said:

There is so much recency bias in awards like MVP. Said it before but the schedule played heavily in Lamar's favor. Even if Allen balls Sunday, he's not going to get credit for it because it's the jets. Then he sits. 

And Lamar gets a game against Cleveland. Whereas Allen will likely be sitting. 

Just now, zow2 said:

Is it even possible to go from a gigantic -1000 betting favorite on December 16th to not winning the MVP….without having lost a game? 

That would be incredible. But as Bills fans we have seen our share of the rug pulled out from under us.

It's possible because Allen would not be impressive in beating two bottom feeders (assuming he struggles against NYJ). Meanwhile, Lamar would be excellent in beating two playoff teams on national TV. 

 

Allen sitting week 18 while Lamar gets to pad his stats doesn't help either. I hope the team keeps out only the most injured players in week 18. 

[zow2]

5 minutes ago, Billsfanatic8989 said:

It would be infuriating to see Allen not win MVP and the team not make the SB. A double whammy. 

 

 

 

That would hurt.  That would leave an emotional scar 

[Process]

I've also said before that I don't think Allen will ever win an MVP. I thought I was going to be proven wrong this year, but maybe not. The bias against him is real, and strong. He's got an uphill battle every year. 

[Billsfanatic8989]

Just now, Process said:

I've also said before that I don't think Allen will ever win an MVP. I thought I was going to be proven wrong this year, but maybe not. The bias against him is real, and strong. He's got an uphill battle every year. 

Unfortunately, at this point I'm not sure Lamar would be an undeserving winner. 

 

Allen has to be great against the Jets. 

[Kaenon]

11 minutes ago, Billsfanatic8989 said:

It would be infuriating to see Allen not win MVP and the team not make the SB. A double whammy. 

 

 

That's just been like every year since 2020