MVP hype for Allen

[zow2]

I think Derrick Henry is going to have over 1700 yards rushing after today.. is that his best year ever?  He's a huge reason why Lamar is having great success.  Defenses can't just key on Jackson.   But again, just because Lamar is having a better statistical season than either of his MVP years, doesn't mean he automatically gets it.  

 

You won't hear it publicly, but I do believe the voters want to spread the award around.  And the fact that Jackson has won his 2nd MVP just last year, and the Ravens record is likely to be worse than Buffalo, Philly, Detroit and KC, I doubt he gets the award.  For whatever reason, the TV sports shows are fawning over him lately especially after the NY Giants game.  I think Lamar got more love for that performance vs a crappy team on the same day than Allen got for winning at #1 seed Detroit.

 

If Josh gets passed over, I think it's going to Saquon or even Goff.  

[Kelly to Allen]

16 minutes ago, zow2 said:

I think Derrick Henry is going to have over 1700 yards rushing after today.. is that his best year ever?  He's a huge reason why Lamar is having great success.  Defenses can't just key on Jackson.   But again, just because Lamar is having a better statistical season than either of his MVP years, doesn't mean he automatically gets it.  

 

You won't hear it publicly, but I do believe the voters want to spread the award around.  And the fact that Jackson has won his 2nd MVP just last year, and the Ravens record is likely to be worse than Buffalo, Philly, Detroit and KC, I doubt he gets the award.  For whatever reason, the TV sports shows are fawning over him lately especially after the NY Giants game.  I think Lamar got more love for that performance vs a crappy team on the same day than Allen got for winning at #1 seed Detroit.

 

If Josh gets passed over, I think it's going to Saquon or even Goff.  

The MVP race was over after Allens performance from KC to Detroit. 

 

Any other decision is basically a middle finger to Allen. And that's not sarcasm. 

 

Demeco Ryans is also part of the silliness and it's embarrassing 

[Jeffbigalls]

Came along way from when he was drafted and a lot of bills fans where mad. League MVP and it's not even close right now

[zow2]

Combined records of Detroit and Kansas City:

 

vs. Buffalo = 0-2

 

vs. Rest of League = 28-1

 

That has to matter to some voters out there.

 

 

[Dr.Sack]

31 minutes ago, zow2 said:

Combined records of Detroit and Kansas City:

 

vs. Buffalo = 0-2

 

vs. Rest of League = 28-1

 

That has to matter to some voters out there.

 

 

This and the statistical dominance of #17 in those games. He dominated. 

[Big Turk]

4 hours ago, zow2 said:

I think Derrick Henry is going to have over 1700 yards rushing after today.. is that his best year ever?  He's a huge reason why Lamar is having great success.  Defenses can't just key on Jackson.   But again, just because Lamar is having a better statistical season than either of his MVP years, doesn't mean he automatically gets it.  

 

You won't hear it publicly, but I do believe the voters want to spread the award around.  And the fact that Jackson has won his 2nd MVP just last year, and the Ravens record is likely to be worse than Buffalo, Philly, Detroit and KC, I doubt he gets the award.  For whatever reason, the TV sports shows are fawning over him lately especially after the NY Giants game.  I think Lamar got more love for that performance vs a crappy team on the same day than Allen got for winning at #1 seed Detroit.

 

If Josh gets passed over, I think it's going to Saquon or even Goff.  

 

Lamar isn't even the MVP on his own team. That's Derrick Henry.

 

I watched that Steeler game last week and I came away thinking "Holy crap, Derrick Henry is a monster."

 

I didn't come away thinking "OMG, Lamar was amazing!"

 

He was OK, had an awful INT and threw to some wise open receivers...thanks to Henry.

 

What happened in the first game where Henry only got 65 yards against the Steelers? Lamar did nothing and only scored 14 points.

 

When Henry is contained, the Ravens lose. Sorry, that's not MVP worthy if you need a great running game to win games.

Edited December 25, 2024 by Big Turk

[zow2]

My gosh,lol,,,  RG3 said on the Netflix pregame show that if Jackson looks great today and gets a few TD's he locks up the MVP.  His reason is based on this being a game viewed worldwide and having better statistics across the board than Allen.    and the Bills have two blah games left against losing teams that few will see.

 

His reasoning is so lame... he's simply ignoring the teams records, the outstanding play of Allen all season, tremendous National TV games vs the #1 seeds, 11 game of 30+ points, etc.. All the games Allen sat early and didn't stat pad, etc..

[Big Turk]

13 minutes ago, zow2 said:

My gosh,lol,,,  RG3 said on the Netflix pregame show that if Jackson looks great today and gets a few TD's he locks up the MVP.  His reason is based on this being a game viewed worldwide and having better statistics across the board than Allen.    and the Bills have two blah games left against losing teams that few will see.

 

His reasoning is so lame... he's simply ignoring the teams records, the outstanding play of Allen all season, tremendous National TV games vs the #1 seeds, 11 game of 30+ points, etc.. All the games Allen sat early and didn't stat pad, etc..

 

No QB who has ever led his team to 30+ points in 8 straight games has not won MVP...it's happened 4 other times and all 4 times those QBs won MVP that year.

Edited December 25, 2024 by Big Turk

[zow2]

3 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

No QB who has ever led his team to 30+ points in 8 straight games has not won MVP...it's happened 4 other times and all 4 times those QBs won MVP that year.

 

8 straight games and 11 games total of 30+..  that's sick production. 

[streetkings01]

Josh Allen is my QB but LJ should get MVP again.

[Ya Digg?]

2 minutes ago, streetkings01 said:

Josh Allen is my QB but LJ should get MVP again.

But why? Bills were supposed to be third in the division by many before the season, fighting for a playoff spot. Baltimore was supposed to be battling KC for the top spot in the AFC. So this tells me you are looking at nothing but stats 

[Beast]

12 minutes ago, streetkings01 said:

Josh Allen is my QB but LJ should get MVP again.

No.

[streetkings01]

8 minutes ago, Ya Digg? said:

But why? Bills were supposed to be third in the division by many before the season, fighting for a playoff spot. Baltimore was supposed to be battling KC for the top spot in the AFC. So this tells me you are looking at nothing but stats 

Stats and he has the head to head over Allen. 37 touchdown passes with 4 picks looks like MVP status to me!

[GolfandBills]

5 hours ago, Kelly to Allen said:

The MVP race was over after Allens performance from KC to Detroit. 

 

Any other decision is basically a middle finger to Allen. And that's not sarcasm. 

 

Demeco Ryans is also part of the silliness and it's embarrassing 

I don’t think so.. Voters would love nothing better than a reason to vote for Lamar over Josh 

[Billsfanatic8989]

Sunday will determine the MVP imo. Allen needs at least 4 total TD's. This has to be a blowout win with great stats. 

 

You can't struggle against two bottom feeders while the other guy is elite against two playoff teams. 

 

Here's another issue: The Bills win Sunday. OK. They got the two locked up. Lamar still needs to play and beat Cleveland. So....Allen could be resting while LJ is beating up on Cleveland.

[Ya Digg?]

Just now, streetkings01 said:

Stats and he has the head to head over Allen. 37 touchdown passes with 4 picks looks like MVP status to me!

8 straight games of 30+ points, 2-0 against the top teams in each conference, those teams are 16-1 against everyone else, Baltimore lost to 2 teams battling for the top pick in the draft. It’s not as if Lamar is leading the league in the major passing categories, they are just higher than Josh. And good job clarifying touchdown passes, because when you go to overall touchdowns all of a sudden Lamar doesn’t have a very big lead at all 

[GolfandBills]

Just now, Billsfanatic8989 said:

Sunday will determine the MVP imo. Allen needs at least 4 total TD's. This has to be a blowout win with great stats. 

 

You can't struggle against two bottom feeders while the other guy is elite against two playoff teams. 

 

Here's another issue: The Bills win Sunday. OK. They got the two locked up. Lamar still needs to play and beat Cleveland. So....Allen could be resting while LJ is beating up on Cleveland.

If Allen plays well Sunday it’s most likely over.  Him sitting will not have a negative impact.  

[Billsfanatic8989]

Just now, Ya Digg? said:

8 straight games of 30+ points, 2-0 against the top teams in each conference, those teams are 16-1 against everyone else, Baltimore lost to 2 teams battling for the top pick in the draft. It’s not as if Lamar is leading the league in the major passing categories, they are just higher than Josh. And good job clarifying touchdown passes, because when you go to overall touchdowns all of a sudden Lamar doesn’t have a very big lead at all 

If Allen struggles against the Jets, his mvp chances are pretty much gone. 

 

I'm a Bills fan. But you can't not be great against two bottom feeders.

Just now, GolfandBills said:

If Allen plays well Sunday it’s most likely over.  Him sitting will not have a negative impact.  

It depends on how Lamar performs the rest of today and against Cleveland. Remember, Lamar has to play against Cleveland. They must win.

 

Both are deserving and either winning isn't a huge issue. 

[Big Turk]

1 hour ago, zow2 said:

 

8 straight games and 11 games total of 30+..  that's sick production. 

 

Most efficient offense in the NFL.

[Low Positive]

Josh will have to have a great game this Sunday because Lamar just made two incredible back-to-back plays against a playoff team.