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32 minutes ago, T.E. said:

Sneakers with suits look absolutely horrific. Beane in particular should be ashamed of himself. 

Those arent sneakers.

Theyre the new trendy dude shoes.

 

FWIW, I also think they look stupid.

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4 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

I think they do know the winners ahead of time. Buffalo Bills media has their tweets out within minutes. No way they have graphics and stuff made that fast. They are already prepared.


You could just have them ready for each award… just in case 

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1 minute ago, TFBillsfan said:

Seemed like the obvious choice. 

 

McDermott missed out on this.  He been around too long now.  Finished 7th in the voting which is kind of a joke really.  

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1 minute ago, FireChans said:

Yeah but that was Mara's mandate, not Schoen/Daboll.

 

Anyway, its a pretty irrelevant discussion. You can have a great back or not. The only thing that matters is a QB. Bills fans should recognize this by now. With or without Barkley, the Giants are still ass without a QB. The Bills were ass with a lot of great RB's.

 

The flip side of signing Barkley and letting DJ walk is that what if DJ blossomed into a Goff-level QB and their new rookie sucked? That would be even worse.

 

They bet on Jones. They were wrong. But you never go wrong prioritizing any kind of stability at the QB position over literally everything else tbh.

 

I mostly agree. Especially in theory. But when the specific situation sticks you with Dnaiel Jones... they should have known better.

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1 minute ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

Like finally going to the playoffs the year before you are trying to draft a QB from one of the highest rated QB classes ever. :lol:

 

They just werent realistic as to what that season really was, who Jones really is, and what they still needed to do.

 

 

Getting to the playoffs was huge for Giants fans. I think they kind of knew they weren’t going to go far, but needed belief in the new regime. Just like when Buffalo broke the drought although not as monumental 

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2 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

The guy who blew the #1 seed and then flopped in the wild card round? :thumbsup:

He had a guy playing QB who was one bad year away from being out of the league.

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1 minute ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

Like finally going to the playoffs the year before you are trying to draft a QB from one of the highest rated QB classes ever. :lol:

 

They just werent realistic as to what that season really was, who Jones really is, and what they still needed to do.

 

 

Or who Daboll really is tbh

 

I'm pretty sure they're just going to keep spinning their wheels unless they luck into a great prospect at quarterback 

Posted
Just now, Amaru523 said:

That's pure insanity.

Coach of the year is usually reserved for guys who coach a team to the playoffs that isn’t expected to get there. Everyone knew the Bills were gonna win 10 games minimum.

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Just now, DrDawkinstein said:

 

I mostly agree. Especially in theory. But when the specific situation sticks you with Dnaiel Jones... they should have known better.

Meddling Mara.

 

Tbh, that's the reason I think Dabs/Schoen are still employed. They did what the owner wanted and it blew up. He had enough grace to not pin it all on them and fire them when it was clearly a disaster.

 

Like @GoBills808, that lucky season where the G-Men snuck in validated Mara in a way and put them in a really bad spot. I think the Giants have a brighter future today if they went 6-11 that year instead. It was a little bit different than the Bills situation where TT was actively quite bad at QB, had already taken a paycut, and was closer to the end of his career as a starter. The Bills were all aligned TT wasn't the guy, regardless of how 2017 ended. The Giants were not.

 

 

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Posted
9 minutes ago, FireChans said:

All winning a few more games with a Barkley does is push them further and further from the top of the board.

 

The Giants, Mara specifically, made a mistake in mandating that DJ was his boy and that Schoen and Daboll were effectively married to him.

 

Once that's the "plan," paying Barkley is a mistake. If DJ works, well you probably don't want to pay both. If DJ doesn't and flames out spectacularly? Having a great RB to win 6 games instead of 3 is drought era Bills magic.

 

The Giants will try to find a QB now. If they succeed, all will be forgiven, if they fail, heads will roll. Especially because Malik will likely emerge as a superstar sooner than later with halfway competent QB play.


generally what I’ve told giants fans. 
 

having a cornerstone back with no qb is a rough spot. You put hard mileage on him only to make it harder for you to get a qb? 
 

Their calculus becomes something like darnold/cousins plus saquon? I guess?

 

that playoff season simultaneously bought them time but also closed a lot of paths forward 

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