GoBills808 Posted 23 hours ago Posted 23 hours ago 23 minutes ago, Rich Stadium Original said: Don't believe much in betting odds to determine outcomes. Betting money placement ultimately determines odds. If as a collective group betters were smart Las Vegas, Draft Kings etc wouldn't exist. As a collective group bettors are incredibly smart NFL closing lines are nearly impossible to beat. And they're the result of the betting public's price discovery determining the true value of Vegas' opening lines it's individual bettors who are dumb. the betting public, much like any collective of participants in a given market, are amazingly accurate 1 Quote
Saint Doug Posted 23 hours ago Posted 23 hours ago Unfortunately voting occurred after the game, but the KC game just highlighted what Josh means to this team. Outside of Josh, we have few, if any, high impact players. Maybe Cook, but beyond him…nothing. 1 1 Quote
tigerthelion Posted 22 hours ago Posted 22 hours ago 2 hours ago, Gregg said: The HOF class is also announced tonight. What does everyone think about Eli. Some say he should make it others say no. He did help the Giants win 2 Super Bowls and did against the evil empire twice. I don't think he deserves to be in the HOF, but I believe he will be voted in at some point. 1 Quote
4merper4mer Posted 22 hours ago Posted 22 hours ago 1 hour ago, GoBills808 said: As a collective group bettors are incredibly smart NFL closing lines are nearly impossible to beat. And they're the result of the betting public's price discovery determining the true value of Vegas' opening lines it's individual bettors who are dumb. the betting public, much like any collective of participants in a given market, are amazingly accurate You have it backwards. 1 Quote
Process Posted 22 hours ago Posted 22 hours ago 2 hours ago, Gregg said: The HOF class is also announced tonight. What does everyone think about Eli. Some say he should make it others say no. He did help the Giants win 2 Super Bowls and did against the evil empire twice. I don't think Eli is a HOF level QB, but I don't mind him getting in. Beating the Patriots dynasty twice is in the Superbowl is legendary, even if he wasn't the primary reason. 1 Quote
transplantbillsfan Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago 2 hours ago, Saint Doug said: Unfortunately voting occurred after the game, but the KC game just highlighted what Josh means to this team. Outside of Josh, we have few, if any, high impact players. Maybe Cook, but beyond him…nothing. I love Bruce Nolan's breakdown of tiers of "dudeness" ("A" , "The", "That") in his show today and would encourage everyone to listen because he also has a really interesting explanation of why OL and DBs don't count because they are in "link systems." If Bills fans don't listen to this show every week (it only comes out once a week on Thursdays), they should. Quote
pennstate10 Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago I’m not sure that this means anything, but polymarket (hangout of degenerate gamblers) has flipped back to Josh, 51 to 49. https://polymarket.com/event/nfl-mvp-1?tid=1738871167529 Quote
SoonerBillsFan Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago 2 minutes ago, pennstate10 said: I’m not sure that this means anything, but polymarket (hangout of degenerate gamblers) has flipped back to Josh, 51 to 49. https://polymarket.com/event/nfl-mvp-1?tid=1738871167529 Back to 50 Quote
Buffalo_Stampede Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago 4 hours ago, julian said: While true, Allen was the only player aside from Lamar who received a 1st place vote. I still rank Allen 2nd in MVP voting last year because I’m not putting players ahead of him because they got more 2nd and 3rd place votes, not a single voter thought anyone other than Lamar or Allen were the MVP. I just think the ranked voting is lame. That was from Aaron Schatz or whatever his name is and based it on analytics. Allen got less 2nd place votes than Prescott and Purdy even if you put Schatz vote 2nd. He got 4 less 2nd place votes than Purdy and 8 less 2nd place votes than Prescott. The 1 first place vote that he received from Schatz doesn’t really mean anything. 1 Quote
zow2 Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago 5 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said: Back to 50 Now back to 51% Allen,,, Yeah baby! 1 Quote
Big Turk Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago interesting the odds have shifted in Allen's favor -230 to +185 for Lamar. 1 Quote
pennstate10 Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago 1 minute ago, Success said: C'mon, universe. Throw us a bone. I did take Allen at +850 so I’ve got a stake in this….. 1 1 Quote
zow2 Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago 4 minutes ago, Big Turk said: interesting the odds have shifted in Allen's favor -230 to +185 for Lamar. Maybe all the bettors were duped by the fake Adam Shefter account like i was for a few mins,,, lol. Saying his sources indicate that Allen will win his 1st MVP. 1 Quote
Process Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago 7 minutes ago, Big Turk said: interesting the odds have shifted in Allen's favor -230 to +185 for Lamar. There are no odds anywhere. Please share where you are seeing this. 1 Quote
julian Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago (edited) 28 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: That was from Aaron Schatz or whatever his name is and based it on analytics. Allen got less 2nd place votes than Prescott and Purdy even if you put Schatz vote 2nd. He got 4 less 2nd place votes than Purdy and 8 less 2nd place votes than Prescott. The 1 first place vote that he received from Schatz doesn’t really mean anything. Ok if you want to ignore a 1st place vote because you disagree with the way the voter got there, it’s definitely your choice and understandable. I just put much less value(zero value) in any vote that isn’t a 1st place vote. Edited 19 hours ago by julian Quote
Buffalo_Stampede Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago 9 minutes ago, julian said: Ok if you want to ignore a 1st place vote because you disagree with the way the voter got there, it’s definitely your choice and understandable. I just put much less value(zero value) in any vote that isn’t a 1st place vote. I’m not ignoring the 1 vote. 1 Quote
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago Josh winning a deserved MVP would take some of the sting out of the season ending NFL Shitshow! 4 1 Quote
Buffalo_Stampede Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago If Josh Allen is attending the awards show he’s winning. 1 Quote
Charles Romes Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago I’m thinking he shows, if only to obtain face time with Myles. 1 Quote
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