MVP hype for Allen

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

8 minutes ago, strive_for_five_guy said:

If you want to get your hopes back up, this CBS sports writer makes a good comp to Manning v McNair back in 2003, and why Josh still has a good chance to win MVP even though Lamar was 1st team all-pro.  Similar argument as Peter King, makes a lot of sense.

 

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/lamar-jackson-vs-josh-allen-which-qb-deserves-mvp-most-and-why-its-not-a-done-deal-despite-all-pro-results/amp/

Looks like the vote for all pro qb went:

Lamar 109 points 30 first place votes

josh     78 points  18 first place votes 

burrow 13 points   2 first place votes 

 

josh would need 6ish of the 30 first place Lamar voters to flip or maybe a bit less/more depending on if those burrow voters go a different way for mvp. Definitely seems possible and that’s probably why the odds didn’t go super lopsided once all pro was announced. Also it’s possible some go for a non qb for mvp so this is just a very rough estimate 

[cisco2403]

Here is an analysis that some Ravens guys did before the All Pro votes were announced. They felt it was heavily towards Allen. Here is a summary of what was discussed. 

 

- They tallied a list of 54 possible voters even though I think there is only 50.  It was a combination of the voters from the last few years and who they know or have stated is a MVP voter. 

- They divided them into 2 categories: Those who were the older voters who would vote more traditionally and those who were younger who vote more on statistics. 

- They felt the younger voters would vote more on statistics and would lean towards Jackson and the traditional would lean towards Allen. 

- 31 out of the 54 are categorized as older/traditional voters. 23 out of the 54 are categorized as younger. 

- 23 out of the 31 traditional voters were leaning towards Allen with 16 outright saying they were voting for him and 7 leaning towards Allen. 9 out of the 23 were leaning towards Jackson with 6 outright saying they were voting for him and 3 leaning towards him. 1 voter said they were voting for Barkley. This leaves 21 out of the possible 54 being unknown. 

 

So unless there was a massive change in sentiment the last week or most if not all the unknown voters voted for Lamar, than Josh is most likely going to win MVP. 

 

 

 

[LABILLBACKER]

2 hours ago, cisco2403 said:

Here is an analysis that some Ravens guys did before the All Pro votes were announced. They felt it was heavily towards Allen. Here is a summary of what was discussed. 

 

- They tallied a list of 54 possible voters even though I think there is only 50.  It was a combination of the voters from the last few years and who they know or have stated is a MVP voter. 

- They divided them into 2 categories: Those who were the older voters who would vote more traditionally and those who were younger who vote more on statistics. 

- They felt the younger voters would vote more on statistics and would lean towards Jackson and the traditional would lean towards Allen. 

- 31 out of the 54 are categorized as older/traditional voters. 23 out of the 54 are categorized as younger. 

- 23 out of the 31 traditional voters were leaning towards Allen with 16 outright saying they were voting for him and 7 leaning towards Allen. 9 out of the 23 were leaning towards Jackson with 6 outright saying they were voting for him and 3 leaning towards him. 1 voter said they were voting for Barkley. This leaves 21 out of the possible 54 being unknown. 

 

So unless there was a massive change in sentiment the last week or most if not all the unknown voters voted for Lamar, than Josh is most likely going to win MVP. 

 

 

 

Josh listens to Sinatra before every game.  Of course he's getting the older voters.

[strive_for_five_guy]

6 hours ago, cisco2403 said:

Here is an analysis that some Ravens guys did before the All Pro votes were announced. They felt it was heavily towards Allen. Here is a summary of what was discussed. 

 

- They tallied a list of 54 possible voters even though I think there is only 50.  It was a combination of the voters from the last few years and who they know or have stated is a MVP voter. 

- They divided them into 2 categories: Those who were the older voters who would vote more traditionally and those who were younger who vote more on statistics. 

- They felt the younger voters would vote more on statistics and would lean towards Jackson and the traditional would lean towards Allen. 

- 31 out of the 54 are categorized as older/traditional voters. 23 out of the 54 are categorized as younger. 

- 23 out of the 31 traditional voters were leaning towards Allen with 16 outright saying they were voting for him and 7 leaning towards Allen. 9 out of the 23 were leaning towards Jackson with 6 outright saying they were voting for him and 3 leaning towards him. 1 voter said they were voting for Barkley. This leaves 21 out of the possible 54 being unknown. 

 

So unless there was a massive change in sentiment the last week or most if not all the unknown voters voted for Lamar, than Josh is most likely going to win MVP. 

 

 

 

Who did each of these voters select for 1st team all-pro QB?