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24 minutes ago, bmur66 said:

This game was a team win. Allen was part of a team last night. I wouldn't say he played ay MVP level but he did what needed to be done. On the other hand, Lamar played himself out of consideration.

According to the announcers last night, the MVP votes were sent in a bit over a week ago ..

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8 hours ago, Ralonzo said:

Narrative on NFLN is that Lamar was MVP in the game with an 88-yard MVP drive but his teammates let him down. And also he didn't have his #1 receiving weapon so we shouldn't hold his "two boo-boos" (Direct quote I kid you not) against him.

 

It'd be hilarious if it wasn't so obvious.

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If the QBs games were reversed, we would be hearing endlessly about how Allen had two careless turnovers and that’s why he’s not a great clutch QB. As for the two point conversion, we would be hearing about how the pass could have and should have been better, especially given the slippery conditions and that the pass was going to target that had a brutal drop earlier in the game and who was just fumbled earlier in the fourth quarter.
 

On the podium after the game, Allen would be telling everyone that his 2 point conversion pass needs to be better in that situation. 

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6 hours ago, Process said:

 


Soooo, Acho is not part of the “national media” he’s claiming will slander Lamar for 12 months?  In the meantime, let’s just turn that slander towards Andrews instead lol.  Funny how Lamar’s fumbling

problem just seems to get ignored all season long, including for the MVP discussion and in last night’s game as well.

Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, Process said:

Compare to when Josh loss last year

 

 

 

Ryan Clark is such a clown. Everything he said in the 2nd video from last January about what we "don't say" about Lamar, is exactly what he's saying now about Lamar

 

 

To be fair, he also posted this last night, but it's really just hedging because he knows he's full of *****:

 

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Here's an interesting question - if yesterday had been the Super Bowl, who on the Bills would have been Super Bowl MVP? No one single player stands out in my mind. I wonder if Allen would get it just by default.

Posted
4 hours ago, Process said:

Compare to when Josh loss last year

 

 

i was thinking about this exact clip from last yr watching the discourse play out last night

 

ty for posting lol

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I find it interesting that so many media members are boosting up Lamar's performance, and basically making it look like he did no wrong and the team let him down.  

 

If this were Allen, they would be taking a torch to him, talking about how he can't get it done, etc.  

 

 

Wild double-standard with Jackson.  3rd MVP coming too.  I can't fathom that guy (while he is very good) having won 3 MVPs and never even making a Conference Championship game.  Shouldnt have gotten MVP last season, should not get it this season (Derrick Henry is arguably as valuable, and a lot of his stats are compiler stats with Allen missing like 3 games worth of action because of blowouts).  

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4 hours ago, Process said:

Compare to when Josh loss last year

 

 

Other part of that clip that is funny besides how much of a hypocrite he is, is that he was just assuming Lamar would make it to the Super Bowl, spoilers he did not.

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15 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

Here's an interesting question - if yesterday had been the Super Bowl, who on the Bills would have been Super Bowl MVP? No one single player stands out in my mind. I wonder if Allen would get it just by default.

That’s a good question. That was the definition of a team win. 

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15 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

Here's an interesting question - if yesterday had been the Super Bowl, who on the Bills would have been Super Bowl MVP? No one single player stands out in my mind. I wonder if Allen would get it just by default.


Mark Andrews 😃… but yeah, prob have to give it to Allen bc he had two TDs, right?

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1 hour ago, HappyDays said:

Here's an interesting question - if yesterday had been the Super Bowl, who on the Bills would have been Super Bowl MVP? No one single player stands out in my mind. I wonder if Allen would get it just by default.

Allen because of the 2 rushing TDs. I mean, who else could they give it to? No one on D and no one else on O.

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1 hour ago, HappyDays said:

Here's an interesting question - if yesterday had been the Super Bowl, who on the Bills would have been Super Bowl MVP? No one single player stands out in my mind. I wonder if Allen would get it just by default.


Nobody on either team had a really outstanding stat line. If there were 3 stars of the game like hockey I think it would be:

1. Allen

2. Lamar

3. Bernard

 

Posted
8 hours ago, DapperCam said:


Nobody on either team had a really outstanding stat line. If there were 3 stars of the game like hockey I think it would be:

1. Allen

2. Lamar

3. Bernard

 


The joke of it is that Lamar still got a passer rating of 114.4 and QBR of 85.8, whereas Josh 86.7 and 71.1.  So Josh has zero turnovers, runs it in for two TDs, and wins the game, while Lamar has two horrible turnovers, yet the formula for these things gives Lamar such high ratings?  And yet many MVP and All-Pro voters base their votes on dumb stats like those.  This is a prime example why voters can’t just look at stats when determining who the more valuable player is.

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Well, if anyone had told me they could either win MVP or win that game last night, i’d take the game. MVP is whatever at this point. The ESPN faction of voters likely swung it to Lamar.  CBS affiliated voters held firm with Allen.  The rest will be a mix.

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12 hours ago, HappyDays said:

Here's an interesting question - if yesterday had been the Super Bowl, who on the Bills would have been Super Bowl MVP? No one single player stands out in my mind. I wonder if Allen would get it just by default.


Good question.
 

Bernard maybe?

 

or Allen by default with the two TD’s and more importantly zero turnovers compared to his counterpart on the other side.

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12 hours ago, HappyDays said:

Here's an interesting question - if yesterday had been the Super Bowl, who on the Bills would have been Super Bowl MVP? No one single player stands out in my mind. I wonder if Allen would get it just by default.

Allen because he scored 2 out of the 3 Bills TD's and was instrumental in enabling the Bills to score the other TD by converting a 3rd & 8 with a great 35 yard throw and converting a 4th & 2 with his legs on the drive that got the Bills their 1st TD. 

 

 

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