MVP hype for Allen

[oldmanfan]

If he doesn’t get it they should get rid of the award permanently 

[Dr Krentist]

15 hours ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

Looks like rumblings from sportsbooks are josh is somewhere in the -750 to -1000 range in mvp betting. Looks like it’s finally happening! 

 

Glad I put some money down before the season started when he was at +800

[CincyBillsFan]

4 hours ago, Utah John said:

As a Bills fan part of my brain is always pessimistic, and asking what could go wrong.  In this case, it's the Bills' schedule.  Not impressive.  Sure they beat the top team in each conference, that's really great, but look at the rest:

 

Cardinals (W) currently 7-7

Dolphins (W) 6-8

Jags (W) 3-11

Ravens (L) 9-5

Texans (L) 9-5

Jets (W) 4-10

Titans (W) 3-11

Seahawks (W) 8-6

Dolphins (W) 6-8

Colts (W) 6-8

Chiefs (W) 13-1

49ers (W) 6-8

Rams (L) 8-6

Lions (W) 12-2

 

Teams currently above .500 are in bold.  Against them the Bills are 3-3, and in the losses it was only the Rams game where Josh played well.  In fact Josh's poor play (completing 9 out of 30 passes) was really the reason the Bills lost to the Texans.  That game was a wakeup for Josh.  He stopped trying to connect downfield all the time, and turned into smart and deadly Josh.

 

You can only play the teams on your schedule, and the Bills and Josh deserve great credit for winning all the games they've won.  Even mediocre teams have some good players and coaches.  But still, just 3-3 against teams with winning records is not impressive.

 

 

 

 

You have to look at when they beat or lost to a team, where the game was played and what kind of football they were playing.  Take the loss to the LA Rams.  Doesn't look great losing to an 8 - 6 team but the Rams have gone 7 - 2 in their last 9 games.  They are playing great football.  And the Bills wins over those two top teams happened when they were 9 - 0 and 12 - 1.  If this were college football those two wins alone would be rated as "elite".

 

 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

9 minutes ago, Dr Krentist said:

 

Glad I put some money down before the season started when he was at +800

I wish I was a betting man…that should be a nice haul lol 

[CincyBillsFan]

4 hours ago, Kelly to Allen said:

It's because of his playoff resume and eye test in the playoffs. 

 

 

Agree.  When you vote a guy the MVP two times and he falls flat on his face in the playoffs you start to feel like he doesn't get one again until after the season he's had playoff success.

 

 

[Danger Mouse]

I'm a little bit worried that coaches are going to realise the only way to stop him is hurt him. I think Romo alluded to it last night but wouldn't say it out loud.

 

[Boatdrinks]

1 hour ago, GASabresIUFan said:

I'm surprised the Bills PR team hasn't posted a retort.  

I think there is a distinction by the NFl with regular season and postseason records. 

[stevewin]

1 hour ago, Dr Krentist said:

 

Glad I put some money down before the season started when he was at +800

I did the same.  Been interesting to see the cash out go up and down but I held fast

[Aussie Joe]

40 minutes ago, Danger Mouse said:

I'm a little bit worried that coaches are going to realise the only way to stop him is hurt him. I think Romo alluded to it last night but wouldn't say it out loud.

 

I was reading on the Lions message board than they “needed to put some hits on him early” to try to “put him off his game”  …the inference being playing dirty, and if he was actually put out of the game that might have been ok too…

 

He is a tough guy but still , it’s a worry in a do or die game …they are not winning any big game without him…. I think designed run plays should be definitely put on hold outside QB sneaks from the 1 rest of the season…

[UKBillFan]

1 hour ago, Aussie Joe said:

I was reading on the Lions message board than they “needed to put some hits on him early” to try to “put him off his game”  …the inference being playing dirty, and if he was actually put out of the game that might have been ok too…

 

He is a tough guy but still , it’s a worry in a do or die game …they are not winning any big game without him…. I think designed run plays should be definitely put on hold outside QB sneaks from the 1 rest of the season…

We’ve said that before, and the Bills have tried it before, but it dilutes him. I think they have to let Josh be Josh, no matter the scenario.

[Warcodered]

 

I'd say he's definitely getting it, Acho a voter basically said that if he had down games and lost 2 of the next 3 then the MVP would be close and Lamar and Barkley would be neck and neck with him.

 

So unless Josh gets lost and can't find the Stadium I don't see it happening.

Edited December 17 by Warcodered

[zow2]

Voters can’t just say that it’s over, that would taint the award.  But Barkley has not done anything great the past couple games and Josh just had a 4 game stat line for the ages and went 3-1 vs good teams not cream puffs.

Its over. and Lamar is not getting a 3rd MVP from these voters until he proves he can win some playoff games. He was gifted the award last season largely based on team record.

[Dr Krentist]

56 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

 

I'd say he's definitely getting it, Acho a voter basically said that if he had down games and lost 2 of the next 3 then the MVP would be close and Lamar and Barkley would be neck and neck with him.

 

So unless Josh gets lost and can't find the Stadium I don't see it happening.

 

They made a great point in regards to Barkley at the end. Philly still won against a playoff team even though he only had 65 rushing yards, so they didn't need him to win. I think that really hurts (pun intended) his MVP stock.

[Goin Breakdown]

So sounds like Josh is the MVP unless....next week. And then Josh is the MVP unless.....next week. Really sonic the Bills were to lose a game (yeah it would suck) Josh wouldn't be MVP anymore. Idk. He's either been special or he hasn't. This is like when I was dating my now wife and she didn't want anyone to know (yet). We're together but......

[Dr Krentist]

8 hours ago, BigDingus said:

 

 

Mina is awesome, and she's almost always championing Josh Allen. Every sports analyst will have bad takes throughout their career. Every person on this board has a TON of bad takes (myself included).

 

 

My thing is the over the top reaction. She reaction was like it was the end of the world.

[strive_for_five_guy]

33 minutes ago, Dr Krentist said:

 

They made a great point in regards to Barkley at the end. Philly still won against a playoff team even though he only had 65 rushing yards, so they didn't need him to win. I think that really hurts (pun intended) his MVP stock.

Barkley wasn’t even in the game multiple times when the Eagles were at the goal line yesterday.  They can score just as easily or better with Hurts there, and have other options as well.  Does that sound like a MVP?  Meanwhile, we’re probably one of the best red zone teams in the league, but it’s all because of the various threats that Josh poses.

[Process]

28 minutes ago, Dr Krentist said:

 

My thing is the over the top reaction. She reaction was like it was the end of the world.

So did 99% of bills fans 

[Sojourner]

1 hour ago, Warcodered said:

 

I'd say he's definitely getting it, Acho a voter basically said that if he had down games and lost 2 of the next 3 then the MVP would be close and Lamar and Barkley would be neck and neck with him.

 

So unless Josh gets lost and can't find the Stadium I don't see it happening.

Always wonder how they go about selecting the sportswriters. Is it by traffic to their articles? Peer recognition?

 

Even more curious as to why there isn’t any transparency who the voters select. After the winner is announced it should become public knowledge who their selections were. 

[HereComesTheReignAgain]

4 minutes ago, Process said:

So did 99% of bills fans 

Mina Kimes is a professional commentator and her reaction was childish and unprofessional.  It was a bunch of cackling and mockery.  

[Buftex]

8 minutes ago, HereComesTheReignAgain said:

Mina Kimes is a professional commentator and her reaction was childish and unprofessional.  It was a bunch of cackling and mockery.  

That is pretty much all sports commentary is these days...