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I saw this this afternoon on NFL Live.  I thought it was awesome seeing things in VR through the eyes of the players. 

He also gave a really strong nod to Terrell Bernard today on One Bills Live.  He said that Bernard was so well prepared he seemed to know what was coming on almost all the KC plays.

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Amazing.

 

The complexity a QB in the NFL deals with within 2-3 seconds is really hard to imagine. I played receiver and on a few plays I took a direct snap and everything just happens way too fast.  This POV thing is cool.

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Wow, really impressive technology. Funny to think our grandkids will scoff at how primitive it is. But it is some cool. Give you a sense of how complex and fast things are on the field. 

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This type of thing shows why many guys who are great athletes - big, strong, fast, great arms, accurate passers, etc. - often can't succeed as a NFL QB.  The brain has to process information SO quickly and then, once it's processed, execute the play.  Orlovsky himself didn't have the talent to do it in the field (at least not consistently at the NFL level), but he's pretty good at breaking it down in the studio.  Nice clip.

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39 minutes ago, msw2112 said:

This type of thing shows why many guys who are great athletes - big, strong, fast, great arms, accurate passers, etc. - often can't succeed as a NFL QB.  The brain has to process information SO quickly and then, once it's processed, execute the play.  Orlovsky himself didn't have the talent to do it in the field (at least not consistently at the NFL level), but he's pretty good at breaking it down in the studio.  Nice clip.

 

With all the talent, both physical and mental that a "better than average" QB needs to possess, it's crazy that so much more is needed

for them to succeed.  Then, on top of that, a QB has to show signs of being able to do it in a "franchise QB" role almost immediately upon

entering the league.

 

For the vast majority of young QBs, they need a decent amount of proper training/playing time in the NFL to see if they have "it" or not.

The way teams are pushed towards immediate success, these young QBs seldom get the time.

It is a classic "Catch 22".

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9 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

With all the talent, both physical and mental that a "better than average" QB needs to possess, it's crazy that so much more is needed

for them to succeed.  Then, on top of that, a QB has to show signs of being able to do it in a "franchise QB" role almost immediately upon

entering the league.

 

For the vast majority of young QBs, they need a decent amount of proper training/playing time in the NFL to see if they have "it" or not.

The way teams are pushed towards immediate success, these young QBs seldom get the time.

It is a classic "Catch 22".

I wonder if any teams are using virtual reality to train.  Seems like it would be possible.  Put rookie qbs up against actual D schemes at game speed. 

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11 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

With all the talent, both physical and mental that a "better than average" QB needs to possess, it's crazy that so much more is needed

for them to succeed.  Then, on top of that, a QB has to show signs of being able to do it in a "franchise QB" role almost immediately upon

entering the league.

 

For the vast majority of young QBs, they need a decent amount of proper training/playing time in the NFL to see if they have "it" or not.

The way teams are pushed towards immediate success, these young QBs seldom get the time.

It is a classic "Catch 22".

Teams usually make it easier on young QBs, though. They aren't always asking their young QB to do what Josh Allen is doing. They scheme things up. They give them simple reads that take away half the field. They use motion and simple rules to identify things. They are given the opportunity to progress and master the mental side of the game until they are able to process more complex things like what Josh Allen and other franchise QBs do on plays like that.

 

That's why dumb QBs like Ryan Tannehill can have some success. Their coaches do all the thinking for them and they heavily scheme and design plays to make it simple for their QB. everything Ryan Tennehill ever did in the NFL was heavily manufactured for him. And he had the athleticism to scramble when things broke down and required him to actually think. He could never step into the Bills offense and run it with any level of success.

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19 minutes ago, peterpan said:

I wonder if any teams are using virtual reality to train.  Seems like it would be possible.  Put rookie qbs up against actual D schemes at game speed. 

Yes, it’s becoming a huge tool to get reps without injury.

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16 minutes ago, MJS said:

Teams usually make it easier on young QBs, though. They aren't always asking their young QB to do what Josh Allen is doing. They scheme things up. They give them simple reads that take away half the field. They use motion and simple rules to identify things. They are given the opportunity to progress and master the mental side of the game until they are able to process more complex things like what Josh Allen and other franchise QBs do on plays like that.

 

That's why dumb QBs like Ryan Tannehill can have some success. Their coaches do all the thinking for them and they heavily scheme and design plays to make it simple for their QB. everything Ryan Tennehill ever did in the NFL was heavily manufactured for him. And he had the athleticism to scramble when things broke down and required him to actually think. He could never step into the Bills offense and run it with any level of success.

 

Of course, but time is only given to a few QBs every year, typically only the top draft picks.  Most do not succeed.

The Tannehill's also have varying degrees of skills.  Goff was considered the same.  Same goes for Tua.

 

It's only by dumb luck that guys like Brady, Warner, Purdy and others are given the chance to show what they can do.

At least that's how I see it.

 

 

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