peterpan Posted November 18 Posted November 18 I don’t always listen to sports radio, but I happened to today. On three different shows, the hosts discussed Allen, and how he has always done what it takes to win(and beat the Chiefs). completely gone was the narrative that “he can’t beat Mahomes” and “ he can’t win in the playoffs “. And in its place was “Allen has always done enough to win, his defense/coaching/etc has let him down.” “He left the field with a lead and 13 seconds remaining, that’s not a lose by Allen”. “Their kicker missed a FG, Allen didn’t miss” Couple that with Rex Ryan saying “the Bills have lost to the Chiefs, But Allen has never lost to the Chiefs” the Media is finally looking past the team W-L record and considering what Allen has done. when they talked MVP award? It was a 2 or 3 man race. And Allen was #1. The deciding factor? Lamar (#2) doesn’t show up in big games. Allen DOES. (Distant 3rd they were talking Goff?) this might be the year Allen gets his very deserved MVP 3 1 5 Quote
TheMightyMaxio Posted November 18 Posted November 18 Careful, the national media is nothing if not fickle. They flip flop like no one's business... and in a business where you are only as good as your last play... We better hope Josh's last drive (this season) is a good one. Sorry, to be Gloomy Gus. 1 12 1 Quote
julian Posted November 19 Posted November 19 Take care of business over these last 6 games and if Steelers win the North making Lamar and the Ravens a wildcard team, then Allen wins his first MVP. 3 Quote
Sojourner Posted November 19 Posted November 19 Lol They were questioning his ability after Baltimore and then sh—ing all over him after the Houston game (rightly so). Theres a handful of guys out there who are truly impartial and offer a solid perspective of the game. No surprise they are ex players and coaches. 1 1 Quote
ToGoGo Posted November 19 Posted November 19 16 minutes ago, peterpan said: I don’t always listen to sports radio, but I happened to today. On three different shows, the hosts discussed Allen, and how he has always done what it takes to win(and beat the Chiefs). completely gone was the narrative that “he can’t beat Mahomes” and “ he can’t win in the playoffs “. And in its place was “Allen has always done enough to win, his defense/coaching/etc has let him down.” “He left the field with a lead and 13 seconds remaining, that’s not a lose by Allen”. “Their kicker missed a FG, Allen didn’t miss” Couple that with Rex Ryan saying “the Bills have lost to the Chiefs, But Allen has never lost to the Chiefs” the Media is finally looking past the team W-L record and considering what Allen has done. when they talked MVP award? It was a 2 or 3 man race. And Allen was #1. The deciding factor? Lamar (#2) doesn’t show up in big games. Allen DOES. (Distant 3rd they were talking Goff?) this might be the year Allen gets his very deserved MVP If that’s what they’re saying, then you can expect those narratives to become the dominant opinions of much of our fanbase and the fanbases of other teams. 1 Quote
stevewin Posted November 19 Posted November 19 (edited) 20 minutes ago, peterpan said: I don’t always listen to sports radio, but I happened to today. On three different shows, the hosts discussed Allen, and how he has always done what it takes to win(and beat the Chiefs). completely gone was the narrative that “he can’t beat Mahomes” and “ he can’t win in the playoffs “. And in its place was “Allen has always done enough to win, his defense/coaching/etc has let him down.” “He left the field with a lead and 13 seconds remaining, that’s not a lose by Allen”. “Their kicker missed a FG, Allen didn’t miss” Couple that with Rex Ryan saying “the Bills have lost to the Chiefs, But Allen has never lost to the Chiefs” the Media is finally looking past the team W-L record and considering what Allen has done. when they talked MVP award? It was a 2 or 3 man race. And Allen was #1. The deciding factor? Lamar (#2) doesn’t show up in big games. Allen DOES. (Distant 3rd they were talking Goff?) this might be the year Allen gets his very deserved MVP The most-amazing thing to me was some talking heads this morning actually saying that-which-must-never-be-said - that Allen is the best QB in the league. Previously an absolutely unheard of thing for anyone to even question the absolute majesty of almighty Pat Edited November 19 by stevewin 1 Quote
Success Posted November 19 Posted November 19 That was the game of the year - and one QB showed up. Allen was at his best. One bad pick, but otherwise he was slinging it all over the field. And that final run - w/ the entire country watching and all of the stakes, on 4th & 2 - gotta think that was one of his best. Just exhilarating to watch. I even saw Chiefs fans say they hated to lose, but thought that was an awesome play. 1 Quote
DrDawkinstein Posted November 19 Posted November 19 17 minutes ago, peterpan said: I don’t always listen to sports radio, but I happened to today. On three different shows, the hosts discussed Allen, and how he has always done what it takes to win(and beat the Chiefs). completely gone was the narrative that “he can’t beat Mahomes” and “ he can’t win in the playoffs “. And in its place was “Allen has always done enough to win, his defense/coaching/etc has let him down.” “He left the field with a lead and 13 seconds remaining, that’s not a lose by Allen”. “Their kicker missed a FG, Allen didn’t miss” Couple that with Rex Ryan saying “the Bills have lost to the Chiefs, But Allen has never lost to the Chiefs” the Media is finally looking past the team W-L record and considering what Allen has done. when they talked MVP award? It was a 2 or 3 man race. And Allen was #1. The deciding factor? Lamar (#2) doesn’t show up in big games. Allen DOES. (Distant 3rd they were talking Goff?) this might be the year Allen gets his very deserved MVP To his credit, Rex originally made that quote on NFL Countdown before Sunday's game was even played. So he was Bill-ieving in Allen before today. 4 1 Quote
Not at the table Karlos Posted November 19 Posted November 19 1 minute ago, DrDawkinstein said: To his credit, Rex originally made that quote on NFL Countdown before Sunday's game was even played. So he was Bill-ieving in Allen before today. Rex has been a huge fan of Allen for a long time. 1 2 Quote
DrDawkinstein Posted November 19 Posted November 19 Just now, Not at the table Karlos said: Rex has been a huge fan of Allen for a long time. He and Greeny for sure. The fact he got Damien Woody to flip is the real story there. 2 1 1 Quote
zow2 Posted November 19 Posted November 19 They don’t want to give it to Lamar again, until he proves some playoff success. Allen is the chosen one for this season as long as he puts up solid numbers over the final six games and finishes no worse than #2 seed. The general consensus is Allen is doing more with less supporting cast, and overperforming compared to expectations. 1 Quote
Not at the table Karlos Posted November 19 Posted November 19 4 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: He and Greeny for sure. The fact he got Damien Woody to flip is the real story there. Woody hated him iirc that’s a big flip Quote
PayDaBill$ Posted November 19 Posted November 19 (edited) Not really, I was listening to the yahoo’s on fox sports radio last night and all I heard was that KC played well in a loss and for hours they glanced over the Bills. I didn’t catch the dolt’s names on the cast but it was after 11pm eastern. Edited November 19 by PayDaBill$ Quote
Billznut Posted November 19 Posted November 19 (edited) 20 minutes ago, PayDaBill$ said: Not really I was listening to the yahoo’s at fox sports radio last night and i heard was that KC played well in a loss and for hours they glanced over the Bills. I didn’t catch the dolts on the cast but it was after 11pm eastern. Today on most of the football shows, any discussion of the game, aside from Allen’s great run was 70% what’s wrong with the Chiefs, what did the Chiefs do wrong yesterday and maybe 30% on what the Bills did to win. Edited November 19 by Billznut 1 Quote
Iiiiiiiiive Got a Feeeelin Posted Tuesday at 11:50 PM Posted Tuesday at 11:50 PM These guys are all clowns and have the easiest job the pays 6 figures by making ridiculous statements that may or may not(at all) have any validity. Most of the time they just want clicks and/or x views and comments which includes Kyle Brandt which so many people got butt hurt that I dared call him a clown. Well to clarify it’s all of them not just him 1 Quote
finn Posted Tuesday at 11:57 PM Posted Tuesday at 11:57 PM It's about time the narrative evolves. The last time I was hearing similar praise for Allen was after the 2022 playoff game against the Chiefs. But the old narrative still lingers. At one point in Sunday's game, Nance was going on about how Mahomes has dominated Allen in the playoffs, but the graphic on the screen showed that, head to head, Allen was better in all categories but wins. 1 2 1 Quote
Wizard Posted Wednesday at 12:44 AM Posted Wednesday at 12:44 AM (edited) On 11/18/2024 at 5:01 PM, julian said: Take care of business over these last 6 games and if Steelers win the North making Lamar and the Ravens a wildcard team, then Allen wins his first MVP. This is it. To win MVP, it is just as much about giving reasons why someone else should not win it over Allen. The case against Lamar is the Ravens not winning their division. If Ravens win their division and are a top 2-3 seed with his stats (not a Lamar fan, but he is still impressive overall), he still has a legitimate and fair argument for MVP. Bills win their division, finish 1 or 2 in AFC, Ravens don't win their division and Allen stays under 10 ints with similar passing yards and similar passing/rushing touchdowns the last 6 games, he is MVP. Edited Wednesday at 12:45 AM by Wizard 1 Quote
Ethan in Cleveland Posted Wednesday at 04:47 AM Posted Wednesday at 04:47 AM Can't both things be true... Last year the media said he turned the ball over too much... This year he isn't and they are winning more... Quote
Scott7975 Posted Wednesday at 04:58 AM Posted Wednesday at 04:58 AM On 11/18/2024 at 7:05 PM, stevewin said: The most-amazing thing to me was some talking heads this morning actually saying that-which-must-never-be-said - that Allen is the best QB in the league. Previously an absolutely unheard of thing for anyone to even question the absolute majesty of almighty Pat Rex Ryan says he is not only the best QB in the league but the best football player in the league. On 11/18/2024 at 7:11 PM, zow2 said: They don’t want to give it to Lamar again, until he proves some playoff success. Allen is the chosen one for this season as long as he puts up solid numbers over the final six games and finishes no worse than #2 seed. The general consensus is Allen is doing more with less supporting cast, and overperforming compared to expectations. I think that just like Lamar bagged the award agains the 49ers last season, Josh will bag the award if he shows out against Detroit this season. Quote
sleeby Posted Wednesday at 05:15 AM Posted Wednesday at 05:15 AM 13 minutes ago, Scott7975 said: Rex Ryan says he is not only the best QB in the league but the best football player in the league. He said josh was the best football player in the NFL but not necessarily the best QB. But why would anyone quote rex ryan? You can do better. 🫡 Quote
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