Buffalo716 Posted November 19 Author Posted November 19 (edited) 9 minutes ago, WotAGuy said: If you can’t see him retreat at least 7 yards, I don’t know what to tell you. Couldn’t a spy have used that same open lane to shoot through and get Allen? Technically you are correct it is possible I am not a fan of spying with two yards to go... It can work but a lot of times it just is taking a guy out of a drop zone when a quick completion is needed... When he put eight guys around the line of scrimmage... He could have sent six including one in the Gap Josh ran through That's why analytics says to go for it when you have Josh Allen in 4th 1 or 2... He's really hard to stop from getting two yards It's pick your poison Edited November 19 by Buffalo716 Quote
WotAGuy Posted November 19 Posted November 19 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Technically you are correct it is possible I am not a fan of spying with two yards to go... It can work but a lot of times it just is taking a guy out of a drop zone when a quick completion is needed... When he put eight guys around the line of scrimmage... He could have sent six including one in the Gap Josh ran through That's why analytics says to go for it when you have Josh Allen... He's really hard to stop from getting two yards It's pick your poison When it gets close to or in the red zone, you have to account for Josh. They didn’t and he made them pay. The interview after the game said Torrence just pushed Jones out of the way using his own momentum. They didn’t mention a line shift, they said Jones went one way and Torrence used that against him. I’m sure you know more about football than me but I’m a recovering alcoholic and I know how to spot overthinking LOL Edited November 19 by WotAGuy Quote
Buffalo716 Posted November 19 Author Posted November 19 (edited) 7 minutes ago, WotAGuy said: When it gets close to or in the red zone, you have to account for Josh. They didn’t and he made them pay. The interview after the game said Torrence just pushed Jones out of the way using his own momentum. They didn’t mention a line shift, they said Jones went one way and Torrence used that against him. I’m sure you know more about football than me but I’m a recovering alcoholic and I know how to spot overthinking LOL It's a half line shift... That's why the center went left with LG... The tackles and the Right guard were left one on one Every single play they have a protection where it's sliding some way Doesn't have to be announced in the press conference.. happens every play Edited November 20 by Buffalo716 Quote
WotAGuy Posted November 19 Posted November 19 1 minute ago, Buffalo716 said: It's a half line shift... That's why the center went left Every single play they have a protection where it's sliding some way Doesn't have to be announced in the press conference.. happens every play Exactly. So why was this play so extraordinary that you made a thread to tell us about it. 1 Quote
Buffalo716 Posted November 20 Author Posted November 20 (edited) 3 minutes ago, WotAGuy said: Exactly. So why was this play so extraordinary that you made a thread to tell us about it. I specifically talked about this play to talk about how little details in coaching can make a big difference There was great coaching on display for four quarters.. from the game plan to the calls The thread is about how good the coaching was on Sunday.. from top down I just highlighted the biggest play of the game because there's nuance in there that comes from preparation and coaching And a lot of this board thinks we have overrated coaches Edited November 20 by Buffalo716 1 1 Quote
3rdand12 Posted November 20 Posted November 20 2 hours ago, Buffalo716 said: The Chiefs only scored one touchdown in the second half and had 259 yards of offense It was a tremendous coaching effort across the board with a great game plan ... Our defense was controlling the majority of the game not there offense If there's one thing you should learn its that Joe Brady will continue to run the ball whether it's successful or not because it keeps the defense honest And wears them out I sure hope Bills stay true to themselves. And keep running at 'em. I was pleased to see Ty get reps in a row. Brady is really thinking hard about how to succeed Sunday and for the Season with these 3 guys + Josh. As we all know , if you can stick with the run long enough , the pass game will open up. A nd if you do that part right ? The Run game then opens up more favorably. Dont want to get ahead of my old self here. But seem Brady and now McD are playing the long game with what they show and mostly relying on execution and discipline to play Bills football 👍🤠 Gol darn this is FUN. Go Bills 1 1 Quote
WotAGuy Posted November 20 Posted November 20 1 minute ago, Buffalo716 said: I specifically talked about this play to talk about how little details in coaching can make a big difference There was great coaching on display for four quarters.. from the game plan to the calls The thread is about how good the coaching was on Sunday.. I just highlighted the biggest play of the game Good job. Really. And I’m sorry if I was a dick. I was channeling my inner WEO. 2 1 1 Quote
Buffalo716 Posted November 20 Author Posted November 20 (edited) 6 minutes ago, WotAGuy said: Good job. Really. And I’m sorry if I was a dick. I was channeling my inner WEO. you're fine I don't take offense Was there 15 plays I could probably talk about and break down yes.. I did just choose that last offensive play because the magnitude... And the tiny things in the play The one thing Josh has became very very good at is pre-snap protections .. and he struggled early in his career He could never slide the line the right way... Now it's something that's comfortable to him and I think that's coachability and preparation But top down Sean has the people in the building doing things the right way day in and day out... The Patriot Way was talked about for 15 years.. how they do the right thing Sean has the preparation for this team the same way Edited November 20 by Buffalo716 2 Quote
WotAGuy Posted November 20 Posted November 20 5 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said: I was pleased to see Ty get reps in a row. Brady is really thinking hard about how to succeed Sunday and for the Season with these 3 guys + Josh. I really like Ty and his game. He is a versatile, complementary back to Cook and Davis. Romo called him one of the best 3rd down backs in the league and I agree. Very dependable. 1 1 Quote
Buffalo716 Posted November 20 Author Posted November 20 1 minute ago, WotAGuy said: I really like Ty and his game. He is a versatile, complementary back to Cook and Davis. Romo called him one of the best 3rd down backs in the league and I agree. Very dependable. Love me some ty Johnson Super dependable... And he doesn't mind blocking 1 Quote
MJS Posted November 20 Posted November 20 (edited) I think 20 years from now a lot of fans will be looking back with fondness on this team, including McDermott and Beane. McDermott gets just WAY too much criticism. He is a really good coach. Most of the time fans are just throwing out vitriol his way without even understanding what they are watching or the nature of NFL football. Like the idiotic claims that he is conservative when he has shown time and time again that he is aggressive and follows the analytics as close as any coach in the NFL. Edited November 20 by MJS 5 1 Quote
3rdand12 Posted November 20 Posted November 20 44 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Don't bring me back into this when I understand x's and o's at an extremely high level The bills have ran 150 mesh plays this year and they don't always half slide left... Kromer's blocking scheme and coaching certainly is the reason they did that They just didn't do it out of nowhere Love The Kromer Always have Forgave him for the Beach Chairs long ago , and never looked back. His investment is shining this year, on both him by McBeanes and how the Offense is "meshing " lol 1 Quote
Mikie2times Posted November 20 Posted November 20 15 minutes ago, WotAGuy said: Good job. Really. And I’m sorry if I was a dick. I was channeling my inner WEO. You don't want to argue like a bunch of b's anymore? Fine. 8 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Love me some ty Johnson Super dependable... And he doesn't mind blocking I hope one day Ty Johnson becomes our version of Bill Brasky 1 Quote
WotAGuy Posted November 20 Posted November 20 1 minute ago, Mikie2times said: You don't want to argue like a bunch of b's anymore? Fine. I hope one day Ty Johnson becomes our version of Bill Brasky I wasn’t arguing. I was proving you wrong. Different. 1 1 Quote
3rdand12 Posted November 20 Posted November 20 20 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: I specifically talked about this play to talk about how little details in coaching can make a big difference There was great coaching on display for four quarters.. from the game plan to the calls The thread is about how good the coaching was on Sunday.. from top down I just highlighted the biggest play of the game because there's nuance in there that comes from preparation and coaching And a lot of this board thinks we have overrated coaches Its a fine contrast to the years McD was the reason the Bills lost. And worth noting 19 minutes ago, WotAGuy said: Good job. Really. And I’m sorry if I was a dick. I was channeling my inner WEO. Good dialogue is healthy as f. Love this thread for 17 reasons. > estimated We all have a little WEO within us 🙄 1 Quote
Mikie2times Posted November 20 Posted November 20 1 minute ago, WotAGuy said: I wasn’t arguing. I was proving you wrong. Different. Classy 1 1 Quote
MJS Posted November 20 Posted November 20 5 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said: Love The Kromer Always have Forgave him for the Beach Chairs long ago , and never looked back. His investment is shining this year, on both him by McBeanes and how the Offense is "meshing " lol Those hoodlums probably deserved it! Quote
Ethan in Cleveland Posted November 20 Posted November 20 1 hour ago, GaryPinC said: People were talking that this game was almost meaningless, McD admitting the Chiefs are too good to kick the late field goal followed by staying aggressive on defense the last drive blows that perception out of the water. Now his players have lived it and that confidence has been created for next time. Let's hope he applies it to all the playoff teams past the first round. Continuous improvement McD, well done. I wasn't. I think some were probably just thinking we beat them in the regular season before. What matters is the playoffs, so a loss while not meaningless, doesn't mean much if they lose to them in the playoffs later. Quote
3rdand12 Posted November 20 Posted November 20 16 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: you're fine I don't take offense Was there 15 plays I could probably talk about and break down yes.. I did just choose that last offensive play because the magnitude... And the tiny things in the play The one thing Josh has became very very good at is pre-snap protections .. and he struggled early in his career He could never slide the line the right way... Now it's something that's comfortable to him and I think that's coachability and preparation But top down Sean has the people in the building doing things the right way day in and day out... The Patriot Way was talked about for 15 years.. how they do the right thing Sean has the preparation for this team the same way God Bless ya azz 716 Josh sees the game at long last and wow , we are a different team to behold 9 minutes ago, MJS said: I think 20 years from now a lotmof fans will be looking back with fondness on this team, including McDermott and Beane. McDermott gets just WAY too much criticism. He is a really good coach. Most of the time fans are just throwing out vitriol his way without even understanding what they are watching or the nature of NFL football. Like the idiotic claims that he is conservative when he has shown time and time again that he is aggressive and follows the analytics as close as any coach in the NFL. The patience of Pegula should not be discounted here. 4 minutes ago, MJS said: Those hoodlums probably deserved it! Well.. lol I hope they learned not to mess with Us old and fairly angry Old Folks at least ! 1 1 Quote
Buffalo716 Posted November 20 Author Posted November 20 (edited) 11 minutes ago, MJS said: Those hoodlums probably deserved it! Well didn't they steal his lawn chairs lol I'm pretty sure the code of Hammurabi says an eye for an eye and cuts off the hands of thieves He just went Tony soprano on them and smacked them up a bit 🤣 Edited November 20 by Buffalo716 Quote
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