Buffalo716 Posted November 18 Posted November 18 (edited) It's not to say that Andy Reid and his coaches are not really good at what they do But yesterday Sean McDermott and company out schemed and out coached Andy Reid, spag and company The game plan, the execution... Babich was never playing catch up... He knew what Andy Reid wanted to do and had players in the right spot It doesn't matter how aggressive spagnola is on defense when you have a quarterback who can read the defense pre-play , get the offensive line on the same page... And they do their job Even on the last play of the game.. fourth and two with it all on the line Spags has seven on the line of scrimmage... Completely trying to overload Josh's brain... Josh sees it all and makes a protection call half sliding left... Leaving Torrance one-on-one with future Hall of famer Chris Jones Leaving Torrance and van demark 1 on 1 with the line half shifted left... Allows a massive hole in the B gap and an easy read for Josh to make.... He was never throwing the ball ... He takes a deeper drop out of shotgun which makes the Left end go wider thinking he can speed rush The tackle... Not even realizing that's washing him out of the play Sure did he have the option to throw, yes... But the protection and the half sliding line left was all about Josh being able to wash out the defensive line and identify a gap in the front... The way Josh maneuvers in the packet is second to none and with the game on the line him moving is the most deadly thing in the NFL Even the last play shows the nuances that happen in every single NFL play... A quarterback who can't make the right protection call and trust his players up front cannot make that play.. and he has to be coached up good enough to know why he's making those calls... Not doing it just to do it but knowing the reason why Human nature says you slide right and double Chris Jones but the intricacies of football and coaching show why they didn't Edited November 18 by Buffalo716 16 2 4 7 Quote
ColoradoBills Posted November 18 Posted November 18 Let me mix a drink and get some munchies. 3 11 1 Quote
WotAGuy Posted November 18 Posted November 18 Your title says one thing but your post is all about Josh making the play on his own. 6 1 4 8 3 Quote
Buffalo716 Posted November 18 Author Posted November 18 (edited) 3 minutes ago, WotAGuy said: Your title says one thing but your post is all about Josh making the play on his own. You have to be coached on protections to make the right protection call Buddy I specifically just go to the last play because you need to have good coaching to make that protection call... That's something that you go over in tens of hours of meeting rooms It's coached Rookie quarterbacks don't come into the league and have that they learn it because coaches drill it into them Some get it some don't Josh has become a mental Master on the field which comes from trusting your coaches Edited November 18 by Buffalo716 4 1 1 Quote
Augie Posted November 18 Posted November 18 (edited) 18 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: Let me mix a drink and get some munchies. I think our guys might be getting better at what they do. That’s what you want. FYI. 😂 . Edited November 18 by Augie 1 Quote
Mikie2times Posted November 18 Posted November 18 Literally the entire game thread was people complaining about the coaching decisions. Maybe I'm wrong but it seems like we are a 4th down away from winning the Super Bowl vs being horrible, having awesome coaches vs getting schooled. It was one game, it shouldn't change how you feel or felt that drastically. I'm not a McD fan, but felt we did a solid job I felt and Babich is giving me some hope. Seeing us more in man was nice. We had some head scratching moments but all and all I'm happy with what we did. Especially in defending Hunt. 1 1 1 Quote
WotAGuy Posted November 18 Posted November 18 3 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: You have to be coached on protections to make the right protection call Buddy I specifically just go to the last play because you need to have good coaching to make that protection call... That's something that you go over in tens of hours of meeting rooms It's coached Rookie quarterbacks don't come into the league and have that they learn it because coaches drill it into them Some get it some don't Josh has become a mental Master on the field which comes from trusting your coaches The coaching issue in that scenario is why didn’t KC have a spy on Josh. Made no sense, unless Spags had the Bills minus the points. Quote
Buffalo716 Posted November 18 Author Posted November 18 (edited) 4 hours ago, Mikie2times said: Literally the entire game thread was people complaining about the coaching decisions. Maybe I'm wrong but it seems like we are a 4th down away from winning the Super Bowl vs being horrible, having awesome coaches vs getting schooled. It was one game, it shouldn't change how you feel or felt that drastically. I'm not a McD fan, but felt we did a solid job I felt and Babich is giving me some hope. Seeing us more in man was nice. We had some head scratching moments but all and all I'm happy with what we did. Especially in defending Hunt. The game day thread is technically a cesspool full of exaggeration and craziness I don't think it represents what's actually happening Edited November 19 by Buffalo716 2 1 3 2 1 2 Quote
BillsFan130 Posted November 18 Posted November 18 Agreed, Bills coaching was great yesterday. On that 4th and 2 play, Spags actually fooled Josh/Brady pre snap. Bills schemed up a man beater to shakir as thats what Josh thought they were in, but Chiefs hid it well and went into zone. Josh realized it was zone right after the snap, and thats when he decided to take matters into his own hands. What a play by Josh 3 1 Quote
ColoradoBills Posted November 18 Posted November 18 3 minutes ago, Augie said: I think our guys might be getting better at what’s they do. That’s what you want. FYI. 😂 Nicely done. 1 1 Quote
Buffalo716 Posted November 18 Author Posted November 18 1 minute ago, WotAGuy said: The coaching issue in that scenario is why didn’t KC have a spy on Josh. Made no sense, unless Spags had the Bills minus the points. You put seven guys on the line of scrimmage so you don't have to spy him All the people in the box is supposed to confuse him a split second enough for anything else to get home... Spying a quarterback with two yards to go is taking another guy out of coverage which could just make a easier completion and they probably can't get the Josh within two yards I get what you're saying but it's actually a no win down and distance It was 4th and seven a spy can absolutely get it done and maybe tackle him at 5 yards The football field being so wide.. it's a hard spy to stop two yards you'd be better off just heavily blitzing him and trying to get home 1 1 Quote
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted November 18 Posted November 18 3 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: The game day threat is technically a cesspool full of exaggeration and craziness I don't think it represents what's actually happening the game day thread is like a real time look into the working minds of about 1000 traumatized Bills’ fans. Scientists will one day dissect those threads to find the cure for schizophrenia. 2 6 4 1 Quote
billsfan89 Posted November 18 Posted November 18 I think McD is realizing that you have to coach to win against KC. Much like when coaches played against Brady you have to play aggressive and leave your fate in your own hands as much as possible. 3 2 Quote
Freddie's Dead Posted November 18 Posted November 18 I'll give McDummy credit for going for it on 4th and 2. Major cuevos call there. But if he ever challenges another 6 yard completion on 2nd and seven like 5 minutes into the game..... You just may see me on Buffalo PD Live. 2 3 2 2 2 Quote
WotAGuy Posted November 18 Posted November 18 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: You put seven guys on the line of scrimmage so you don't have to spy him All the people in the box is supposed to confuse him a split second enough for anything else to get home... Spying a quarterback with two yards to go is taking another guy out of coverage which could just make a easier completion and they probably can't get the Josh within two yards I get what you're saying but it's actually a no win down and distance It was 4th and seven a spy can absolutely get it done and maybe tackle him at 5 yards The football field being so wide.. it's a hard spy to stop two yards you'd be better off just heavily blitzing him and trying to get home Other than that play, Josh was 11 for 29 yards, so they were doing a good job of containing him. Everyone in the stadium wanted and expected Josh to take that play himself, except the Chiefs. Edited November 18 by WotAGuy Quote
Buffalo716 Posted November 18 Author Posted November 18 Just now, Miyagi-Do Karate said: the game day thread is like a real time look into the working minds of about 1000 traumatized Bills’ fans. Scientists will one day dissect those threads to find the cure for schizophrenia. Yeah Ive been traumatized by the bills as much as you can like we all have so that's why I don't need the game day thread I do swear at my TV enough as is or in person when I'm there The thing that's impressing me is quarterbacks who understand protections, and why and where you call them is a coached thing Josh has been in meeting rooms for 100 hours with his lineman quarterback coach and line coach... And they tell him when he sees this front even if you want to double Chris Jones This is why you don't and you have slide left 1 Quote
billsfan89 Posted November 18 Posted November 18 1 minute ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: the game day thread is like a real time look into the working minds of about 1000 traumatized Bills’ fans. Scientists will one day dissect those threads to find the cure for schizophrenia. 1 2 Quote
ColoradoBills Posted November 18 Posted November 18 1 minute ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: the game day thread is like a real time look into the working minds of about 1000 traumatized Bills’ fans. Scientists will one day dissect those threads to find the cure for schizophrenia. I can't say how much dissecting the thread would help, but there are some GDT posters who could use some electroshock therapy. 2 1 2 Quote
Buffalo716 Posted November 18 Author Posted November 18 Just now, WotAGuy said: Other than that play, Josh was 11 for 29 yards, so they were doing a good job of containing him. Everyone it he stadium wanted and expected Josh to take that play himself, except the Chiefs. They absolutely did a great job containing him.. they have a tremendous front... Like I said I truly believe the differences 100 hours of film study with the o line QB coach and line coach Human nature says you slide right and double Chris Jones... But the intricacies of football say you half slide left and create that gap on the right That is purely film room preparation and coaching Because feelings say you don't do that Quote
WotAGuy Posted November 18 Posted November 18 The GDT is like PPP, some places are best avoided, unless you’re into toxic pathology. 🤣 1 1 4 1 Quote
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