Chiefs fan excuses

[ganesh]

On 11/20/2024 at 9:36 PM, NewEra said:

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Yeah, they went from being the most penalized OL in the league to the least-  just by flipping a switch

 

We lost an All Pro LB and a very good LB.  Just because you don’t know football, doesn’t make Bernard “average”

 

Benford was also out- von useless thanks to injury and Douglas had a sprained ankle 

 

 

 

Didn't we also lose Rapp due to a chest injury

[Success]

7 hours ago, Blackbeard said:

Here’s a gem from their forum:

 

“Regular season games are effectively practice for this franchise at this point. Has been a noticeable difference the past few years from the earlier years of the Mahomes era.”

 

They were just practicing on us guys.  Lmao.  

 

Yep. They're Patriots fans now.

 

[Mat68]

Kelce went off in the playoffs because Buffalo was without Benard, Milano, Rapp, Douglas.  Dodson played through an ankle injury. That was the difference in the game. 

[transient]

28 minutes ago, Mat68 said:

Kelce went off in the playoffs because Buffalo was without Benard, Milano, Rapp, Douglas.  Dodson played through an ankle injury. That was the difference in the game. 

And because McDermott was so afraid that a younger, faster Dorian Williams would make mistakes that he decided to let AJ Klein play glacially slow but mistake free football with Travis Kelce running wide open 10 yards in front of him.

[NewEra]

9 hours ago, SaulGoodman said:

 

I guess it's only fitting that the "Chiefs fan excuses" thread turns into the Bills fan excuses thread. 

Just like every fan base has the same type excuse threads.  This is what message boards do.  It’s one of the reasons there are only 3 chiefs fans that visit this board.  Most fans aren’t so insecure that they have to run to their teams rescue and defend their honor.  But apparently there’s are a few that are that insecure

[SaulGoodman]

8 hours ago, Mat68 said:

Kelce went off in the playoffs because Buffalo was without Benard, Milano, Rapp, Douglas.  Dodson played through an ankle injury. That was the difference in the game. 

Kelce had arguably the best game of his career vs the top defense and LB corps in the NFL the following week. Then followed it with another great game vs an excellent defense and LB corps in the SB. 
 

Kelce having a decent game isn’t exactly proof of inept defense. 

[Stads]

The Chiefs have the 3rd best plus/minus in their division. That is something I think 

[SaulGoodman]

4 hours ago, NewEra said:

Just like every fan base has the same type excuse threads.  This is what message boards do.  It’s one of the reasons there are only 3 chiefs fans that visit this board.  Most fans aren’t so insecure that they have to run to their teams rescue and defend their honor.  But apparently there’s are a few that are that insecure

 

Why would KC fans be insecure? 

 

Let's be real...a Bills fan is the last person who should accuse anyone else of insecurity. 

[Johnnycage46]

1 minute ago, SaulGoodman said:

 

Why would KC fans be insecure? 

 

Let's be real...a Bills fan is the last person who should accuse anyone else of insecurity. 

Every single Bills tweet I see that has anything positive about the Bills and zero to do with KC has a KC fan jumping in to make it about KC. KC fans appear very insecure and seem to not be able to let fans of other teams enjoy their own team (ya know, kind of like you coming to a Bills board).

[SaulGoodman]

1 minute ago, Johnnycage46 said:

Every single Bills tweet I see that has anything positive about the Bills and zero to do with KC has a KC fan jumping in to make it about KC. KC fans appear very insecure and seem to not be able to let fans of other teams enjoy their own team (ya know, kind of like you coming to a Bills board).

 

Twitter's full of people who are there just to troll and get reactions. I don't think that's news to anybody. 

 

How am I not letting fans enjoy their team? I haven't said anything negative about the Bills. 

 

I don't think responding to bogus narratives indicates insecurity. Creating bogus narratives indicates insecurity. You won't find me claiming that Buffalo only wins because they're lucky or in the refs' pockets. 

[Drew21PA]

lol latest one is the chiefs intentionally threw the game !! Oh lawd 

[Mat68]

11 hours ago, SaulGoodman said:

Kelce had arguably the best game of his career vs the top defense and LB corps in the NFL the following week. Then followed it with another great game vs an excellent defense and LB corps in the SB. 
 

Kelce having a decent game isn’t exactly proof of inept defense. 

He was WIDE OPEN.  In the biggest moments Mahomes had an easy answer.  Dodson at 80% with Klein off street created a massive mismatch.  Benard has been Buffalo best defender.  Saying his absence didn't affect the outcome is wild imo.  When his replacements were abused.  

[hondo in seattle]

On 11/20/2024 at 2:52 PM, Johnnycage46 said:

Chiefs fans are insufferable. They literally lost A game this year and have 3 SB wins in the last 5 years and they just can't let another team even enjoy one damn game. They have surpassed Patriots fans in both pettiness and fragility. It's pathetic.

 

I have to disagree. I was at Arrowhead with my family in our Bills gear a couple years ago when we trounced the Chief 38-20. 

 

The Chief fans I interacted with were universally classy and often complimentary of Josh Allen and the Bills team in general - despite whatever sour feelings they were experiencing because of the blowout.  

Like very fan base, there's a bell curve of KC fans with some bottom feeders that may be "insufferable."  But at the stadium that day, I witnessed only good sportsmanship.  

 

 

 

Edited November 22 by hondo in seattle

[Brand J]

In regards to KC fans, the Bills were damned if they won the game and damned if they lost. Either way we weren’t going to rid ourselves of the trolls. 

[Johnnycage46]

1 hour ago, hondo in seattle said:

 

I have to disagree. I was at Arrowhead with my family in our Bills gear a couple years ago when we trounced the Chief 38-20. 

 

The Chief fans I interacted with were universally classy and often complimentary of Josh Allen and the Bills team in general - despite whatever sour feelings there were experiencing because of the blowout.  

Like very fan base, there's a bell curve of KC fans with some bottom feeders that may be "insufferable."  But at the stadium that day, I witnessed only good sportsmanship.  

 

 

 

Yeah, its like anything...the vocal minority are the ways we notice online and they suck. I'm sure the vast majority of every fanbase are normal people. But the ones I come across online suck!

[Kelly to Allen]

Buffalo was just practicing and getting ready for new Orleans. Joke is on you KC 

 

[SaulGoodman]

Following up on the ref conspiracy theories...

 

https://www.espn.com/nfl/insider/story/_/id/42509325/debunking-10-myths-2024-nfl-season-teams-chiefs-49ers-lamar-jackson

 

The myth: The officials favor the Chiefs late in close games.

 

When the Chiefs began 9-0 with seven wins by a touchdown or less, there were conspiracy theories about referees favoring them. Was the league trying to guide Kansas City to a three-peat? Was the idea that Chiefs wins are good because the league is trying to attract more Swifties to the NFL? Who knows.

 

Why it's a myth: Looking only at late- and close-game situations (eight points in either direction, second half or overtime) and including both declined and offsetting penalties, the NFL team with the most flags is ... Kansas City. It is tied with the Colts, having 29 penalties in such situations. Only the Jets and Saints have more penalty yards than Kansas City's 218 in late and close situations.

 

KC fans don't challenge the conspiracy narratives because they're insecure. They challenge them because it's complete nonsense. 

[Cash]

5 hours ago, SaulGoodman said:

Following up on the ref conspiracy theories...

 

https://www.espn.com/nfl/insider/story/_/id/42509325/debunking-10-myths-2024-nfl-season-teams-chiefs-49ers-lamar-jackson

 

The myth: The officials favor the Chiefs late in close games.

 

When the Chiefs began 9-0 with seven wins by a touchdown or less, there were conspiracy theories about referees favoring them. Was the league trying to guide Kansas City to a three-peat? Was the idea that Chiefs wins are good because the league is trying to attract more Swifties to the NFL? Who knows.

 

Why it's a myth: Looking only at late- and close-game situations (eight points in either direction, second half or overtime) and including both declined and offsetting penalties, the NFL team with the most flags is ... Kansas City. It is tied with the Colts, having 29 penalties in such situations. Only the Jets and Saints have more penalty yards than Kansas City's 218 in late and close situations.

 

KC fans don't challenge the conspiracy narratives because they're insecure. They challenge them because it's complete nonsense. 

How many of those flags were bad calls? How many non-calls should’ve been called against KC’s opponents? Raw numbers without drill-down analysis are worthless for this discussion. 
 

For the record, I strongly deny any conspiracy talk, but also strongly believe in unconscious bias. It is my opinion that refs, being human, aren’t immune to unconscious bias and it tends to benefit teams like the current Chiefs and the Brady/Belichick Patriots. 
 

With that said, I only saw one call or non-call on Sunday that favored the Chiefs, and it was the egregious missed facemask right before halftime. Might’ve cost the Bills 4 points but there’s no way of knowing. Other than that, I thought it was a very well-officiated game. 

[Success]

21 hours ago, SaulGoodman said:

 

Why would KC fans be insecure? 

 

Let's be real...a Bills fan is the last person who should accuse anyone else of insecurity. 

 

I don't think KC fans are insecure in general.

 

That's "in general."

 

[Ecmic82]

7 hours ago, SaulGoodman said:

Following up on the ref conspiracy theories...

 

https://www.espn.com/nfl/insider/story/_/id/42509325/debunking-10-myths-2024-nfl-season-teams-chiefs-49ers-lamar-jackson

 

The myth: The officials favor the Chiefs late in close games.

 

When the Chiefs began 9-0 with seven wins by a touchdown or less, there were conspiracy theories about referees favoring them. Was the league trying to guide Kansas City to a three-peat? Was the idea that Chiefs wins are good because the league is trying to attract more Swifties to the NFL? Who knows.

 

Why it's a myth: Looking only at late- and close-game situations (eight points in either direction, second half or overtime) and including both declined and offsetting penalties, the NFL team with the most flags is ... Kansas City. It is tied with the Colts, having 29 penalties in such situations. Only the Jets and Saints have more penalty yards than Kansas City's 218 in late and close situations.

 

KC fans don't challenge the conspiracy narratives because they're insecure. They challenge them because it's complete nonsense. 

The two teams that spend the most time within these “close situation” parameters have the most penalties against? Really? That’s not insight.

 

the Chiefs have spent about 234 out of a possible 310 minutes within these parameters. That’s a relatively high ratio. The Colts as well (they’ve played like one game that didn’t end as a one-score game). Since this is a Bills board I’ll use them as an example: they’ve played about 166 minutes out of a possible 330 within the parameters (since the article uses only second half minutes, that translates to about three games fewer that Kansas City).

 

Teams that generally play tight games will, generally, have more total flags against them in tight game situations than do teams that play within these situations less often. That article chose to write a narrative in search of a stat. They did it backwards.

Edited November 23 by Ecmic82