EasternOHBillsFan Posted Tuesday at 02:40 AM Posted Tuesday at 02:40 AM Meh, Hollins is a reliable #13... I'm good. Quote
Thurman#1 Posted Tuesday at 02:40 AM Posted Tuesday at 02:40 AM 6 hours ago, NewEra said: And then there’s Keon, Kincaid, Knox, a beast stable of RBs and the best OL we’ve put in front of Josh. The offense is stacked with playmakers. We were the first team to score over 28 on KC in 3 seasons—-while missing 2 of our best pass catchers. Funny how one trade transforms our Unit from the worst in franchise history to a very good unit. And we’ve only seen them on the field together for a millisecond. Let’s hope they can all be there come playoffs @Mr. WEO maybe you could start a gofundme for him? That's the thing, we heard all about how awful this unit was from some on here, and they weren't. They never were. They definitely took a step back from last year. But with Josh throwing to them from behind an excellent OL, they looked to many of us like they might be a nice, functional unit even without a #1, especially in the second half if Coleman started to figure things out and Keon kept developing. And that's just what has happened. Picking up Cooper makes them even better, it was a great move, but they were and are a nice little group even when Coop is off the field. 1 1 2 Quote
Gambit Posted Tuesday at 02:59 AM Posted Tuesday at 02:59 AM 17 minutes ago, EasternOHBillsFan said: Meh, Hollins is a reliable #13... I'm classless. Fixed that for you Quote
EasternOHBillsFan Posted Tuesday at 03:10 AM Posted Tuesday at 03:10 AM 11 minutes ago, Gambit said: Fixed that for you Not my fault you're clueless. 1 Quote
Lost Posted Tuesday at 03:52 AM Posted Tuesday at 03:52 AM How does his injury affect our comp picks next year? Quote
Scott7975 Posted Tuesday at 04:12 AM Posted Tuesday at 04:12 AM He should be fine. Same thing EJ Manuel had. He only missed 4 games. Probably worse on a receiver than a QB though. Quote
That's No Moon Posted Tuesday at 04:15 AM Posted Tuesday at 04:15 AM 8 hours ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: Gabe Davis is a guy who I think returns in 2-3 seasons for cheap in his lethal #4 role. 1 1 Quote
Thurman#1 Posted Tuesday at 05:33 AM Posted Tuesday at 05:33 AM (edited) 5 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said: It did significantly transform them for a couple games and their potential going forward. The hardest receiving weapons to find are the boundary receivers. Acquiring Cooper as Coleman was also breaking out has very much colored our view of the weapons around Allen. In lesser roles and against lesser defenders the other players are much more impactful. Statistically, the passing game the past two weeks with Coleman out and Cooper limited has not been good. Statistically, the passing game hasn't been good the last two weeks, you say? At the very best, that's deeply questionable. Not to mention that your idea here of laying all the blame for any passing game problems on the receivers is excellent evidence that you're nursing a severe case of confirmation bias. The blame (and the credit) for the passing game goes to the receivers ... and the tight ends, and the RBs, and the QB and the OL. It's a team game. Pretending all of it's on the WRs says an awful lot more on you and some deeply flawed logic you want to cling to than it does about the WRs. In any case, we averaged 271 yards per game passing in those two games. Know where averaging 271 yards passing would rank a team this year? Numero uno. Our completion percentage in those games was around league average and almost exactly the same as our completion percentage for the whole season. We racked up 262 pass yards against KC. Can you name another team that did better against the Chiefs? Oh, yeah, one, the Ravens managed to eke out five more passing yards than we did against that Chiefs D. Aren't the Ravens throwing the ball pretty well this year? We put up 30 points against KC, despite them basically shutting down our running backs. Cook went 9 for 20, Ty Johnson 5 for 18, and Ray Davis 5 for 11. Yet we put up 30 points. Our passing game got the job done at a high level against the very tough KC defense. Josh's running too, but the pass game worked very well. And yeah, you can say that we threw three INTs in those two games, but one of the three was from Josh getting hit in the shoulder as he threw, the second against Indy was a bad throw, and the INT against KC was on some kind of communication problem on a throw to Knox (who is not a receiver). That's not on the receivers. Edited Tuesday at 05:36 AM by Thurman#1 Quote
Gambit Posted Tuesday at 06:01 AM Posted Tuesday at 06:01 AM 2 hours ago, EasternOHBillsFan said: Not my fault you're clueless. Sure buddy Quote
BigAl2526 Posted Tuesday at 06:01 AM Posted Tuesday at 06:01 AM It is odd that neither of the top two receivers from the last few years for the Bills, who left the team, could last a whole season. 1 Quote
Starr Almighty Posted Tuesday at 07:48 AM Posted Tuesday at 07:48 AM It's ironic, I had the brew, she had the chronic The Lakers beat the Supersonics Now that's irony 1 Quote
Doc Brown Posted Tuesday at 07:57 AM Posted Tuesday at 07:57 AM Bad news for Gabe but I'm glad he got that 2nd contract. He deserved it with the hard work he put in here as a 4th round pick. It's still crazy to me that his contract and Saquon Barkley's are nearly identical. Barkley has two million more guaranteed while Davis is making 400k a year more than him over three seasons. 1 Quote
GrimboG Posted Tuesday at 10:12 AM Posted Tuesday at 10:12 AM Does anyone smarter than me know if his reduced playing time (due to the injury) will affect our comp pick? Quote
Mr. WEO Posted Tuesday at 12:01 PM Posted Tuesday at 12:01 PM (edited) 16 hours ago, NewEra said: And then there’s Keon, Kincaid, Knox, a beast stable of RBs and the best OL we’ve put in front of Josh. The offense is stacked with playmakers. We were the first team to score over 28 on KC in 3 seasons—-while missing 2 of our best pass catchers. Funny how one trade transforms our Unit from the worst in franchise history to a very good unit. And we’ve only seen them on the field together for a millisecond. Let’s hope they can all be there come playoffs @Mr. WEO maybe you could start a gofundme for him? 2022-23 (featuring Diggs, Davis, Knox, Shakir, Singletary) was the worst WR unit in franchise history?? Edited Tuesday at 12:02 PM by Mr. WEO Quote
finn Posted Tuesday at 12:09 PM Posted Tuesday at 12:09 PM Just looking at Allen highlights. So many of them are strikes to Gabe Davis, and not just the iconic ones. When I think of Gabe, I've tended to think of his drops, especially that incredible 60-yard absolute dime from Allen at the end of the Jets game right after Allen had hurt his shoulder. Would have been one of the best, most clutch throws in Allen's career, which is saying something. For me, that drop eclipsed the many terrific plays Davis made in his time, and that's not fair or right. He was a big part of Allen's early success. 1 Quote
fasteddie Posted Tuesday at 12:14 PM Author Posted Tuesday at 12:14 PM 16 hours ago, warrior9 said: What's the irony? Both of our top receivers from last year are done for the year. I didn't think it had to be spelled out, but.... Quote
JohnBonhamRocks Posted Tuesday at 12:19 PM Posted Tuesday at 12:19 PM 11 hours ago, buffaloboyinATL said: It’s like rai-ain on you’re wedding day, it’s a free ride, when you’ve already paid, it’s a black fly in your Chardonnay… oh wait, those things aren’t ironic either. That was the song my high school English teacher used as an example of things that are, in fact, not ironic haha 1 Quote
colin Posted Tuesday at 12:47 PM Posted Tuesday at 12:47 PM i feel bad for him because he was a bill, but i never loved him as a player for us. this does make me reflect: we are down harty, that guy from miami (sheffield?), davis, diggs we are up hollins, samuel, cooper, coleman if samuel is over the toe and can do what we saw vs kc, it's basically a (late season and playoff, at least) upgrade at every single slot. throw in the injuries to diggs and davis, and it's a walk off. sometimes you just need the football gods to smile on you Quote
NewEra Posted Tuesday at 01:15 PM Posted Tuesday at 01:15 PM 1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said: 2022-23 (featuring Diggs, Davis, Knox, Shakir, Singletary) was the worst WR unit in franchise history?? No. Different conversation Quote
Mr. WEO Posted Tuesday at 01:29 PM Posted Tuesday at 01:29 PM 12 minutes ago, NewEra said: No. Different conversation which trade were you referring to? Quote
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