billsbackto81 Posted Tuesday at 01:15 PM Posted Tuesday at 01:15 PM 20 hours ago, nosejob said: WTF!!!!! My thoughts exactly. Quote
Ethan in Cleveland Posted Tuesday at 02:14 PM Posted Tuesday at 02:14 PM Good no call. He was trying to knock the ball out at the goal line. Of course it is impossible to know intent, but in this case I'd give him teh benefit of doubt. Colts player not so much. That was deliberate 3 shots to the head. 1 Quote
chris heff Posted Tuesday at 05:18 PM Posted Tuesday at 05:18 PM At the end of the run 23 punches Josh in the head, why is no one talking about this? The ball is at least a yard into the end zone and nowhere near where Tranquills punch lands. I know the excuse is that he’s punching at the ball, but this is as blatant as last week’s punches. Throwing a punch indiscriminately has to be more than a fine. 2 Quote
WotAGuy Posted Tuesday at 05:20 PM Posted Tuesday at 05:20 PM 1 minute ago, chris heff said: At the end of the run 23 punches Josh in the head, why is no one talking about this? The ball is at least a yard into the end zone and nowhere near where Tranquills punch lands. I know the excuse is that he’s punching at the ball, but this is as blatant as last week’s punches. Throwing a punch indiscriminately has to be more than a fine. It’s fine. Tyson took a bunch of punches and he’s 30 years older. 1 Quote
NickelCity Posted Tuesday at 05:21 PM Posted Tuesday at 05:21 PM Quote why is no one talking about this? 2 4 Quote
Augie Posted Tuesday at 05:22 PM Posted Tuesday at 05:22 PM There is a little better angle of that somewhere. It is being discussed somewhere. We should be talking about the amount of the fine, but I’ve heard nothing about that yet. When are they announced? Maybe they still get it right, albeit after the fact? 🤷♂️ Quote
Solomon Grundy Posted Tuesday at 05:23 PM Posted Tuesday at 05:23 PM Shots to the head!! Should be fined and suspended!! Quote
chris heff Posted Tuesday at 05:26 PM Posted Tuesday at 05:26 PM 2 minutes ago, Augie said: There is a little better angle of that somewhere. It is being discussed somewhere. We should be talking about the amount of the fine, but I’ve heard nothing about that yet. When are they announced? Maybe they still get it right, albeit after the fact? 🤷♂️ I looked for the better angle, couldn’t find it. I saw it on Good Morning Football. They said nothing about the punch. 2 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said: Shots to the head!! Should be fined and suspended!! I agree 5 minutes ago, NickelCity said: Where? 1 minute ago, NickelCity said: It's definitely a late act. But he also makes contact with the football. Tough one to fine, I think. He does not contact the football, the other angle that I can’t find clearly show he pinch’s Josh in the face mask. Quote
Augie Posted Tuesday at 05:31 PM Posted Tuesday at 05:31 PM 1 minute ago, chris heff said: I looked for the better angle, couldn’t find it. I saw it on Good Morning Football. They said nothing about the punch. I agree Where? It’s still not a great angle, but it comes from the other side and it looks like a punch at/under the facemask. If it were more clear I’d consider looking for it, but it’s still iffy. It’s wasn’t three straight punches at the helmet clear as day (like last time). Quote
NickelCity Posted Tuesday at 05:32 PM Posted Tuesday at 05:32 PM 2 minutes ago, chris heff said: Where? He does not contact the football, the other angle that I can’t find clearly show he pinch’s Josh in the face mask. There's a multipage thread about it, and the talking point is sprinkled through other threads. No worries. He definitely gets punched in the facemask, but it looked to me like the trajectory of the punch goes through the facemask and contacts the ball. Don't get me wrong, it was a BS move because Josh had clearly already scored, but there's at least an argument to avoid a fine. Quote
Simon Posted Tuesday at 05:33 PM Posted Tuesday at 05:33 PM 7 minutes ago, chris heff said: Where? Quote
JÂy RÛßeÒ Posted Tuesday at 05:34 PM Posted Tuesday at 05:34 PM If you follow the guy, his sole aim was to punch the ball out. He wasn't running full speed, he was hoping someone would hold Josh up so that he could force a fumble. Sadly for them, nobody was gonna hold Josh up. 1 Quote
Sweats Posted Tuesday at 05:44 PM Posted Tuesday at 05:44 PM Shockingly enough, no flag, no penalty, nothing. If that was his Almighty Darth Mahomo Lordship, there'd be people fined, fired and looking for work next week. ........disgusting 1 1 Quote
TheBrownBear Posted Tuesday at 07:17 PM Posted Tuesday at 07:17 PM I think he's trying to punch the ball out. Unfortunate for Josh, and should have been a penalty, but I don't think there was an intent to injure. Just a guy trying to make a play. 1 Quote
msw2112 Posted Tuesday at 07:21 PM Posted Tuesday at 07:21 PM From the angle that the clip in the original post shows, I don't see much more than a futile attempt by a defender to make a play. I don't see a cheap shot. Maybe, as some suggest, there's a different angle that shows something else. 1 Quote
JÂy RÛßeÒ Posted Tuesday at 07:22 PM Posted Tuesday at 07:22 PM 3 minutes ago, TheBrownBear said: I think he's trying to punch the ball out. Unfortunate for Josh, and should have been a penalty, but I don't think there was an intent to injure. Just a guy trying to make a play. They call penalties like that all the time though. Incidental helmet to helmet contact cause the ballcarrier ducks. 1 Quote
BigAl2526 Posted Tuesday at 07:29 PM Posted Tuesday at 07:29 PM On 11/18/2024 at 10:55 AM, nosejob said: Where is the coach filing a complaint with the league? I can't believe this didn't make national highlights last week. The Bills don't publicize or comment on the communications they have with the league office. Quote
machine gun kelly Posted Tuesday at 07:40 PM Posted Tuesday at 07:40 PM On 11/18/2024 at 10:59 AM, davefan66 said: I believe it is intentional for sure. I don’t believe I’ve seen any other QB get slugged in the helmet like that before. Should be brought to the league and player fined, with warnings given to future opponents. But it won’t and is somewhat stupid on these players as they have a greater chance of breaking their hand then injuring Josh. Quote
dave mcbride Posted Tuesday at 07:43 PM Posted Tuesday at 07:43 PM (edited) On 11/18/2024 at 12:11 PM, MJS said: Well that shows it. The ball was right there. His punch may have even touched the ball. He was trying to punch it out. Case closed. I have no issue with this. A punch to the face mask is not going to do anything. A punch to the helmet as well. It is nothing compared to the force of collisions produced on the football field. If there was something to nitpick, it is the fact that Allen had crossed the goal line. But it was within a second of that happening. Agreed. He absolutely was trying to punch it out. He did exactly as he was supposed to do. He's not looking at the goal line either - for all he knows, he's on the half yard line with an opportunity to get the ball for the Chiefs at the 20 yard line down 23-21. On 11/18/2024 at 12:15 PM, Process said: I really don't see anything wrong here. What are we doing? Complaining. Edited Tuesday at 07:43 PM by dave mcbride Quote
JP51 Posted Tuesday at 08:26 PM Posted Tuesday at 08:26 PM Penalty yes... not called... not at all surprising considering it was the Bills... Kenny Pickett or Cooper Rush gets that flags gonna fly Bills and Josh Allen not so much... gutless punk... not sure it gets to that level. I think he was trying to cause a turnover... Quote
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