starrymessenger Posted November 18 Posted November 18 3 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said: Depends on what roster I'm drafting for. You are drafting a team from scratch. Quote
Billsatlastin2018 Posted November 18 Posted November 18 1 hour ago, Chicken Boo said: Don't care. Win a Super Bowl. INDEED! This is just fun stuff. When your career comes to an end and the assessments are being made, NONE of us want it to be said about #17, Greatest QB ever, to never ***** win a SB! end of story. Quote
Chicken Boo Posted November 18 Posted November 18 33 minutes ago, starrymessenger said: You are drafting a team from scratch. Allen or Lamar for their scrambling ability, as the rest of the team would likely be trash. 1 Quote
JerseyBills Posted November 18 Posted November 18 3 hours ago, Toledo Bill said: Ok, he can be a buffoon, but 2 comments I heard this morning: 1 "Patrick Mahomes might be the best QB in the league but Josh Allen is the best football player in the league." 2. "Josh Allen has never lost to the Chiefs.. the Bills have lost to the Chiefs but Allen has not." Interesting take. Correct take, aside from 2020 title game. Been saying this for a minute 1 Quote
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted November 18 Posted November 18 1 hour ago, starrymessenger said: Lamar looks to me more like the best football player while not being the best QB. I always wondered if Schopp posted here. 🤔 3 1 Quote
beebe Posted November 18 Posted November 18 2 hours ago, SoonerBillsFan said: He is right,look at his performances. the 2020 afc championship performance wasn't exactly a master class. Quote
hondo in seattle Posted Monday at 03:54 PM Posted Monday at 03:54 PM (edited) 7 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: The Bills team and coaches are better vs the Chiefs in the regular season. Allen steps it up in the playoffs but the rest of the team and coaching staff doesn’t. I know this is a popular take but I don't get it. McD and his coaches have a routine. They study film a certain way, run meetings and practices a certain way, build teamwork a certain way, develop game plans in a certain way, etc. It's a "process" based on years of wisdom and experience that has been proven to work. The Bills follow the same process in the postseason that they follow in the regular season. Reid has his own process that's probably very similar. It also works - Reid and McD are the winningest coaches over the past few years. So what happens in the playoffs? Does Reid have a "turbo boost" button that's only available to him in the playoffs that magically makes his way of preparing a team better? Did Reid's secret button make Bass miss that FG or Diggs drop that long ball last year? You need a sample size of at least 30 for an analysis to be scientifically valid. Reid and McD haven't played each other that many times. Most of the games are close and often determined by a few feet or seconds or injuries here or there. I'm not convinced KC is playoff-better. It could very well be just random gridiron luck. Edited Monday at 08:51 PM by hondo in seattle 1 1 Quote
Mr. WEO Posted Monday at 04:22 PM Posted Monday at 04:22 PM 1 hour ago, DrDawkinstein said: He all but agreed when Damien Woody stepped in and called Josh the best QB in the league. had to. we saw the 2 best head to head...it wasn't close last night. 1 Quote
CincyBillsFan Posted Monday at 04:27 PM Posted Monday at 04:27 PM 2 hours ago, starrymessenger said: If you were in a position to draft any of those guys, who would you pick? Allen. 52 minutes ago, beebe said: the 2020 afc championship performance wasn't exactly a master class. Allen was solid in that game. The defense on the other hand was beyond bad. Quote
SoonerBillsFan Posted Monday at 04:41 PM Posted Monday at 04:41 PM 1 hour ago, beebe said: the 2020 afc championship performance wasn't exactly a master class. List his playoff stats as a whole. Quote
Saxum Posted Monday at 04:42 PM Posted Monday at 04:42 PM 4 hours ago, Toledo Bill said: Ok, he can be a buffoon, but 2 comments I heard this morning: 1 "Patrick Mahomes might be the best QB in the league but Josh Allen is the best football player in the league." 2. "Josh Allen has never lost to the Chiefs.. the Bills have lost to the Chiefs but Allen has not." Interesting take. ESPN BET which is basically ESPN+$+$. 3 1 Quote
mannc Posted Monday at 04:46 PM Posted Monday at 04:46 PM 3 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: The Bills team and coaches are better vs the Chiefs in the regular season. Allen steps it up in the playoffs but the rest of the team and coaching staff doesn’t. Agreed. Everyone talks about the 13 seconds game, but Allen played near perfect football in last year's playoff game against a really good Chiefs' defense...there were four huge drops by the WRs (and Cook), and of course the Bills' defense was just bad. 2 1 Quote
LABILLBACKER Posted Monday at 04:58 PM Posted Monday at 04:58 PM 2 hours ago, Niagara Bill said: You mean L Jackson of the Ravens. F...the Lamar bs True great qbs don't crap the bed every single playoff season. Josh career playoff rating 100. Lamar 75... I rest my case. 1 1 Quote
MJS Posted Monday at 04:59 PM Posted Monday at 04:59 PM 2 hours ago, Niagara Bill said: You mean L Jackson of the Ravens. F...the Lamar bs Talk about a player and team that lays eggs in the playoffs... Lamar Jackson and the Ravens have been terrible in the playoffs. Jackson is 2-4 in the playoffs. Josh Allen is 5-5. 3 1 Quote
MiltonWaddams Posted Monday at 05:04 PM Posted Monday at 05:04 PM (edited) To say that Josh Allen is the best QB in the league is to refute the take that Mahomes is the GOAT. And thus, Brady retains that title. Josh would be in the conversation with a few SB wins. Dammit I hate Brady AND Mahomes!! Edited Monday at 05:05 PM by MiltonWaddams Quote
Just Jack Posted Monday at 05:05 PM Posted Monday at 05:05 PM (edited) 4 hours ago, Toledo Bill said: 2. "Josh Allen has never lost to the Chiefs.. the Bills have lost to the Chiefs but Allen has not." It's the same argument as with Rob Johnson after the Titans playoff game. RJ had the lead when he left the field. It was the defense/special teams that lost that game. Edited Monday at 05:06 PM by Just Jack Quote
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted Monday at 05:08 PM Posted Monday at 05:08 PM (edited) A bit hyperbolic on point 2 but if he’s talking about only somewhat recent games he’s not really wrong. Josh had an awful game against the chiefs a few years back. AFC championship he wasn’t great either but he wasn’t the problem Edited Monday at 05:08 PM by Generic_Bills_Fan Quote
90sBills Posted Monday at 05:10 PM Posted Monday at 05:10 PM 3 hours ago, thenorthremembers said: I think Rex shied away from the reality of the situation. Mahomes has the better career to this point but at the moment Josh is the best QB in the NFL. Saying a qb is the best player while another qb is the best qb is a cop out. Go for it and just say he thinks Allen is the best qb. But he didn’t want any of that heat. Maybe after the Bills win a superbowl he’d be able to muster up the courage. Quote
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted Monday at 05:11 PM Posted Monday at 05:11 PM 3 hours ago, starrymessenger said: Lamar looks to me more like the best football player while not being the best QB. This Sunday kind of proved everything wrong with Lamar and everything right with Josh imo. Lamar plays amazing until they hit a huge game down the stretch then he does a vanishing act. Josh might not dunk on abysmal teams to the extent that he could and usually hits a bit of a rough patch midseason but he is pretty much always on fire against the great teams later in the season Quote
Nephilim17 Posted Monday at 05:15 PM Posted Monday at 05:15 PM 31 minutes ago, Saxum said: ESPN BET which is basically ESPN+$+$. Rex Ryan: "44% of the time he runs as a ball carrier he's run for first downs. There's no player in the history of the National Football League that can say that. Only Josh Allen." Did not know that. Yet another incredible stat. Gives more context to Rex's comments about "best football player." 1 1 Quote
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