Rigotz Posted November 18 Posted November 18 9-2 going into the Bye in a “rebuilding year.” Tons of draft assets in the upcoming draft. Young core of players at key positions. Josh cementing himself as a top 1-3 QB. Did this year finally kill the “window is closed” talking point? I never hear that kind of talk about the Chiefs or even the Ravens or Bengals. Is it finally dead for the Bills? 5 2 4 Quote
ganesh Posted November 18 Posted November 18 28 minutes ago, Punch said: No one has made that claim since like Week 3. I thought they slammed it SHUT after the back-to-back losses to Baltimore and Houston. 1 7 Quote
Kelly to Allen Posted November 18 Posted November 18 Josh Allen is 28 years old. How did this talking point even manifest. It doesn't even make sense. 1 1 Quote
Billznut Posted November 18 Posted November 18 The national media tried to will it into existence before the season. Luckily the Bills said F that. 2 1 2 Quote
Kelly to Allen Posted November 18 Posted November 18 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Billznut said: The national media tried to will it into existence before the season. Luckily the Bills said F that. How tho. How is the window shut for 28 year old Allen but wide open for 41 year old Rodgers before the season started??? The media kept repeating it over and over but only for buffalo lol Why is it open for mahomes into infinity but not Allen. It's a weird talking point that is basically something a complete moron says. Edited November 18 by Kelly to Allen 1 1 Quote
stevewin Posted November 18 Posted November 18 (edited) If the window is closed, the door sure is open Edited November 18 by stevewin 3 2 Quote
BADOLBILZ Posted November 18 Posted November 18 39 minutes ago, Rigotz said: 9-2 going into the Bye in a “rebuilding year.” It was never a rebuilding year. The media said it, for a number of reasons, most of which were not logical, and a bunch of fans latched onto it because they wanted to lower the bar for the team. Fans can be funny like that. A majority of TSW posters thought 2017 was being set up to be a "tank" season by McBeane. It was rather obvious by the extremely veteran roster that they took to camp that they were just going to try to Jauron Ball their way thru the schedule but anticipating an intentionally crafted 4-12 season made it easy for fans to lower expectations and potential disappointment. 1 1 Quote
That's No Moon Posted November 18 Posted November 18 1 minute ago, Kelly to Allen said: How tho. How is the window shut for 28 year old Allen but wide open for 41 year old Rodgers before the season started??? Why is it open for mahomes into infinity but not Allen. It's a weird talking point that is basically something a complete moron says. Because they need to have things to talk about so you watch and click and comment. The Bills moving on from Diggs and having some pretty large questions at WR made that an easy conversation to have. Sort of like having the theory of Aaron Rodgers with the other really solid weapons he has made that an easy conversation to have at the time. Mahomes just won back to back Super Bowls and started the season 9-0, of course nobody is going to talk about his window closing even though, in reality, that whole team is different without a productive Kelce and he's showing his age. Reid is 66 and won't coach forever. Chris Jones is an absolute key to their defense and he's 31 next year at a position that takes a lot of wear and tear also with a massively growing cap hit over the next couple years. If they don't win it this year you might hear a whiff of that come up because they have a bit of a reload coming too. They're 9-1 right now but have been whistling through the graveyard quite a bit. Are they biding their time or are they really just down a tick from their recent past? They still have a number of difficult games left. We will see. 2 1 Quote
Doc Brown Posted November 18 Posted November 18 National media are moving the goal posts. It quickly gone back to "can't beat the Chiefs in the playoffs?" That's what it will always be until proven otherwise. 2 6 Quote
78thealltimegreat Posted November 18 Posted November 18 It will be replaced by the Bills can’t beat the Chiefs in the playoffs ordeal. What were the Bills supposed to do forfeit the game or pretend it’s preseason? Stupid people say stupid things and get paid for it see Nick Wrights career. Quote
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted November 18 Posted November 18 (edited) 54 minutes ago, Kelly to Allen said: Josh Allen is 28 years old. How did this talking point even manifest. It doesn't even make sense. The media in their never ending quest to hype up the jets and dolphins lol. The national media seems to never really know what’s going on with Buffalo. For example they probably saw Gabe Davis and Poyer/Hyde leaving as huge losses but none of those guys were great last year 24 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said: It will be replaced by the Bills can’t beat the Chiefs in the playoffs ordeal. What were the Bills supposed to do forfeit the game or pretend it’s preseason? Stupid people say stupid things and get paid for it see Nick Wrights career. What’s gonna happen if the bills are in the afc championship and the chiefs don’t make it that far 🤣 that’s definitely seeming possible.. and a team like the bengals who have beaten mahomes in the playoffs is likely not even gonna make it to the playoffs this year…does that make them better than the chiefs still? Lol Edited November 18 by Generic_Bills_Fan 3 Quote
90sBills Posted November 18 Posted November 18 31 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: National media are moving the goal posts. It quickly gone back to "can't beat the Chiefs in the playoffs?" That's what it will always be until proven otherwise. This was a great win! The team and fanbase can enjoy this for a couple of weeks. We all know the true test is in the postseason. This win hasn’t changed any of that. 4 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said: and a team like the bengals who have beaten mahomes in the playoffs is likely not even gonna make it to the playoffs this year…does that make them better than the chiefs still? Lol I don’t think anyone believes they’re better than KC. It’s just that they have beaten KC in the postseason before so they’re living off that. No other team has so that’s the narrative that will continue until it changes. 1 Quote
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted November 18 Posted November 18 3 minutes ago, 90sBills said: This was a great win! The team and fanbase can enjoy this for a couple of weeks. We all know the true test is in the postseason. This win hasn’t changed any of that. I don’t think anyone believes they’re better than KC. It’s just that they have beaten KC in the postseason before so they’re living off that. No other team has so that’s the narrative that will continue until it changes. Living off that aka not winning a Super Bowl lol if lost Superbowls were worth anything the bills would be in great shape there 🤣 if the bengals finished the job I’m all for hypin them up for sneaking past the chiefs in the playoffs but they didn’t Quote
Warcodered Posted November 18 Posted November 18 You can't pay attention to what the National media says, after the Bills made the Jaguars look like a college team playing in the NFL they were all on the window isn't closed and the Bills are the most complete team in the NFL. Then the Bills had the Ravens game, which was a lot of ***** all lining up for a very bad day it happens sometimes. These last weeks the Chiefs could maybe go undefeated.....yeah that worked out. Quote
gonzo1105 Posted November 18 Posted November 18 I never thought it was. I also didn't think this was a rebuilding year. I got disagreed with quite a bit on here when I said we were still Super Bowl contenders when everyone was belly aching about how bad our WR corps was and how our safeties weren't playoff caliber etc etc. As long as Josh Allen is around this team will be a super bowl contender. 1 Quote
90sBills Posted November 18 Posted November 18 18 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said: Living off that aka not winning a Super Bowl lol if lost Superbowls were worth anything the bills would be in great shape there 🤣 if the bengals finished the job I’m all for hypin them up for sneaking past the chiefs in the playoffs but they didn’t I’m with you. It’s pretty ridiculous that they’re still living off that win 3 seasons later. Losing to the Chargers might put an end to it. Now the media will focus on Pittsburgh. Just watch. 1 Quote
Kelly to Allen Posted November 18 Posted November 18 (edited) 1 hour ago, Doc Brown said: National media are moving the goal posts. It quickly gone back to "can't beat the Chiefs in the playoffs?" That's what it will always be until proven otherwise. What will the narrative be when buffalo obliterates KC in the AFC championship in Buffalo? At that point Allen will be 5-2 vs mahomes since 21.... I guess it will just be buffalo has to win back to back championships. Edited November 18 by Kelly to Allen 2 Quote
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted November 18 Posted November 18 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Kelly to Allen said: What will the narrative be when buffalo obliterates KC in the AFC championship in Buffalo? At that point Allen will be 5-2 vs mahomes since 21.... I guess it will just be buffalo has to win back to back championships. They really lucked out with that onslaught of linebacker injuries for the bills down the stretch last year or they would very likely be 1-5 against the bills since their afc championship win with the only win being that freak 13 seconds occurrence. The story is just the bills won’t ever win the playoff game now though 🤣. Like the chiefs don’t take these ridiculously important afc matchups seriously in the regular season or something. you can maybe sell me on them overlooking the raiders or something like that but they’re not phoning it in in games against the bills and ravens in the regular season lol there’s just no way Edited November 18 by Generic_Bills_Fan 2 1 2 Quote
Kelly to Allen Posted November 18 Posted November 18 (edited) 1 hour ago, That's No Moon said: Because they need to have things to talk about so you watch and click and comment. The Bills moving on from Diggs and having some pretty large questions at WR made that an easy conversation to have. Sort of like having the theory of Aaron Rodgers with the other really solid weapons he has made that an easy conversation to have at the time. Mahomes just won back to back Super Bowls and started the season 9-0, of course nobody is going to talk about his window closing even though, in reality, that whole team is different without a productive Kelce and he's showing his age. Reid is 66 and won't coach forever. Chris Jones is an absolute key to their defense and he's 31 next year at a position that takes a lot of wear and tear also with a massively growing cap hit over the next couple years. If they don't win it this year you might hear a whiff of that come up because they have a bit of a reload coming too. They're 9-1 right now but have been whistling through the graveyard quite a bit. Are they biding their time or are they really just down a tick from their recent past? They still have a number of difficult games left. We will see. These all are rational points but the main point is if Allen is a legit Hof level QB that is at worst a top 2-3 QB, then why would anything change? Sure maybe there's a few questions, maybe you only win ten games in a down year etc. but at worst if Allen is healthy buffalo should be a tier 2 Superbowl contender every year, and again that's in a perceived " down year". When you have a big Ben, or Elway, or Kelly or favre, being a top super bowl contender doesn't end until you retire. Like most ppl have mahomes and Allen as 1 & 2. Everything that applies to mahomes should logically apply to Allen Plus or minus a few organizational differences. Edited November 18 by Kelly to Allen Quote
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