Bass’s missed XP

[Zag20]

 just duct tape some pvc pipe to the top of the upright for gosh sakes 

[YattaOkasan]

1 hour ago, BuffaloRebound said:

it’s an extremely subjective call when it’s above the goalpost, similar to when the ball is punted out of bounds and where they determine it went out.  

But it doesn’t have to be. We can definitely measure its position. We decide not to. There are other objective things we make subjective. Like delay of game (would’ve hurt us) and ineligible man down field (would’ve helped us). Objective things should be reviewable and would stop teams from pushing the edge. 

[HurlyBurly51]

 

[That's No Moon]

14 minutes ago, Rubes said:

Might be tough to make a call especially if there is just enough wind to make the uprights shake a bit.

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Why? The post is where the post is even if it's moving in the wind.  Have a reticle on the lens. Wherever the middle of the post is will be shown whether it's moving or not.  You do get into a question of where the center line of the football is though.  It's easy when it's going directly end over end, but when it's wobbly the center of the ball moves on each rotation.  Though, if we can have a photo finish at horse races where they can see if the horse's tongue hairs crossed the finish line first I'd think we could have a good enough camera to see that also.

[Jukester]

We’ve got technology in baseball that shows the distance, trajectory and path of home runs. Tennis has Hawkeye that can show the ball to within millimeters of the lines. 
 

The nfl on the other hand still relies on the chain gang to measure first downs and subjective ref eyes staring up at goalposts to assess field goals. Enough said 

[That's No Moon]

5 minutes ago, YattaOkasan said:

But it doesn’t have to be. We can definitely measure its position. We decide not to. There are other objective things we make subjective. Like delay of game (would’ve hurt us) and ineligible man down field (would’ve helped us). Objective things should be reviewable and would stop teams from pushing the edge. 

Yeah, the delay of game thing is weird to me.  Why is there not a huge red light like an NBA shot clock?  Either the light is on or it's not.

[QB Bills]

I have a kind of radical solution to this. Put a crossbar on the top as well and make it so the kick has to go through that enclosed rectangle. You make kicks a bit harder by not allowing the kicker to just kick it as hard and high as they want. And you eliminate this silliness of a judgement of whether the kick would have went in if the posts were higher.

Edited November 18 by QB Bills

[sven233]

In today's world, you'd think the league that just prints money, could find a way to put a couple sensors on top of the goal posts, or use some sort of computer program, that could virtually extend the goal posts high enough to remove all doubt on these types of kicks.  There is no reason you can't use technology to take all of the judgement out of these kicks.

[HerdMentality]

We need sharks with freaking lasers on their heads… or at least taller goalposts!

[BobbyC81]

6 hours ago, Virgil said:

It looked like it went directly over the right goal post, which would be good.   No camera on the cross bar, so I don’t know how they would have overturned it.  
 

I think it was good 

I suppose it’s not reviewable.

[Sierra Foothills]

5 hours ago, QB Bills said:

I have a kind of radical solution to this. Put a crossbar on the top as well and make it so the kick has to go through that enclosed rectangle. You make kicks a bit harder by not allowing the kicker to just kick it as hard and high as they want. And you eliminate this silliness of a judgement of whether the kick would have went in if the posts were higher.

 

I reaaly like this... like hockey/soccer/lacrosse... essentially make it into a goal.

 

It'll never happen though.

 

But good "thinking outside the box" LOL.

 

[Livinginthepast]

7 hours ago, Virgil said:

It looked like it went directly over the right goal post, which would be good.   No camera on the cross bar, so I don’t know how they would have overturned it.  
 

I think it was good 

I know this is just a few times a season thing, but the technology exists for a  goal post camera to instantly tell if a Kick is good and it would not even be expensive, yet the NFL once again doesnt seem to care if they get it right. Absolutely no way that those 2 officials can eyeball it from ground level and be sure about a kick that goes that high. I'm glad it didnt cost us in the end.

[thenorthremembers]

It's an XP.   He needs to hit it well enough so there is no debate.   

[djp14150]

7 hours ago, Virgil said:

It looked like it went directly over the right goal post, which would be good.   No camera on the cross bar, so I don’t know how they would have overturned it.  
 

I think it was good 

you can’t review above the pole kicks.  I don’t know why they don’t have small cameras on inside edge of the the poles looking up

[Shortchaz]

16 minutes ago, Livinginthepast said:

I know this is just a few times a season thing, but the technology exists for a  goal post camera to instantly tell if a Kick is good and it would not even be expensive, yet the NFL once again doesnt seem to care if they get it right. Absolutely no way that those 2 officials can eyeball it from ground level and be sure about a kick that goes that high. I'm glad it didnt cost us in the end.

Probably get some flack for this but I don’t think it’s as complicated as people are making it. The two officials are in the exact right position to make that call. the camera angle used in the broadcast adds drama because of forced perspective. the two sets of eyes directly under goalposts don’t have that limitation. I get the “not trusting officials” argument but if as a fan you have such little faith in their ability to fairly judge something that is so cut and dry, not a judgment call, or possibly missing something by being out of place, then why have officials at all. 
 

The forced perspective of the television audience makes this seem more complicated than it is. 

[BarleyNY]

I watched with three other people and we all audibly reacted in a negative way to that kick. We all either thought he missed it or thought it was likely he missed it. 

[BearNorth]

A laser on the outside edge of the posts, if the laser detects the ball, FG is good, refs should be able to handle anything visual between the posts.

Pretty sure posts already have electricity because of cameras on them.

[SoCal Deek]

Footballs regularly hit the goalposts…but some bounce in while others doink out. The camera wouldn’t solve the randomness of the way a football bounces. Just saying. 

[GunnerBill]

8 hours ago, gonzo1105 said:

I thought he missed it but that’s just my opinion 

 

I did as well, but as others have said I thought Fairbairn missed against us earlier in the year and it looked similar. I can't remember a year where we have had two of these contentious in / not in calls. Weird. 

1 hour ago, thenorthremembers said:

It's an XP.   He needs to hit it well enough so there is no debate.   

 

He does, but as others have said I thought that looked off even before Bass made contact. Looked like a funky snap, hold operation. 

[ProcessTruster]

8 hours ago, Another Fan said:

 

Me too.

 

Bigger issue I have is I still have trust issues with Bass.  

nah.  hell , Justin Tucker is now missing kicks left and right (pun intended) .  let it go.