11/17/24 Game 11 GAMEDAY! Bills vs Chiefs post game Thread

[Warcodered]

1 hour ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said:

 

So Josh didn't win.....and there is now confirmation that the GMFB crew is sniffing glue.

[The Wiz]

15 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

So Josh didn't win.....and there is now confirmation that the GMFB crew is sniffing glue.

They couldn't give it to buffalo twice.

 

You kinda knew it wasn't going to happen.  Wasn't exactly an angry run either.  Just a hell of a play.  I'd take the bills/cowboys 4th down over sunday as an angrier run.

[3rdand12]

21 hours ago, Richard Noggin said:

 

Thank you for this deeper dive. 

 

If that's the case, then I'd rather the color analysts don't get any inside access to gameplans during the week. I still want to listen to an NFLer break down what they're seeing and anticipating to help me understand how we should all "see" the game from an Xs and Os standpoint. 

 

The human interest narratives and talking points are completely irrelevant to the game on the field anyways. Does nothing for me, personally. Give me analysis instead. Just stick with the plays currently happening. Stop with the bigger picture commentary. 

I for one want to hear more about substitutions who just came on the field , alignments , looks. Adjustments. The cameras dont catch that in real time

 Then AFTER the play they can talk about why a team called a play on defense or offense and why it succeeded or failed. No need to predict the call. Takes the fun out of the game , regardless of how correct Tony might be.

Edited November 19 by 3rdand12

[Dr Krentist]

 

Thought this was a pretty cool segment

[CircleTheWagons99]

Don't know if it's been mentioned, bills picked off the first pass from a qb 2 weeks in a row. Also, Mahomes first and last pass were Ints. 

[Beck Water]

On 11/17/2024 at 6:29 PM, Nelius said:

Josh Allen was better than Patrick Mahomes. Again. That and sort of containing Chris Jones is all you need. 
 

Can we say the season has started now? 

 

Contain this

Built different, he is

 

 

[BillsFanForever19]

The most insane case of cope I've ever seen

 

 

[SoonerBillsFan]

Just now, BillsFanForever19 said:

The most insane case of cope I've ever seen

 

 

I believe the term is " whistling through the graveyard ".   They should realistically have 5 losses this year, and with their upcoming schedule I can see them with 6-7 losses total.

[Richard Noggin]

4 hours ago, 3rdand12 said:

I for one want to hear more about substitutions who just came on the field , alignments , looks. Adjustments. The cameras dont catch that in real time

 Then AFTER the play they can talk about why a team called a play on defense or offense and why it succeeded or failed. No need to predict the call. Takes the fun out of the game , regardless of how correct Tony might be.

 

Yes, please

[Big Turk]

On 11/18/2024 at 5:14 AM, Rochesterfan said:

 

He was told to stop - not because he was a former player diagnosing these plays and telling us what may come - but because he had inside knowledge based upon discussion with the team and watching practices that are closed to media - he was telling us what they actually gameplanned.

 

The teams were complaining to the NFL that he was talking about their “secrets” for specific looks and teams threatened to shut down any info for Him and Nance if it continued.

 

It is the same reason the Brady owning a part of LV and being a broadcaster took so long to happen - there was a ton of stipulations that had to be addressed to ensure information wasn’t passes to other teams.

 

Romo was so great early because he was breaking norms by sharing info on how teams installed a gameplan for that opponent, but that info is then available for other teams to exploit as they see concepts.  If he shared thoughts based upon just what he saw on the field it would be one thing, but when he would talk about what “triggered” a blitz based upon formation - that was info gleaned from the discussions with the team and watching specific practices where the gameplan is installed.

 

 

 

I mean, no offense, but anyone worth their salt that has any connection to an NFL team as a QC analyst or breaks down film will be able to see what the other team is doing by watching the film.

 

It's not like he is giving them stuff they aren't able to simply find themselves.

 

And with the obsession level over things like that, there is no way they are "hiding" stuff they are putting on tape from opponents.

 

Just sounds like teams are paranoid about stuff the other teams already know anyway.

[Goin Breakdown]

8 hours ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said:

 

Not that it matters but seriously Richardsons run was not even close to the run Josh had on any level. 

53 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

The most insane case of cope I've ever seen

 

 

Awesome plan because Buffalo will forget that Hopkins and Kelsey are even on the team next time and they'll be so surprised when they take the field that all the planning leading up to the game will be for not. 

[Scott7975]

4 hours ago, Dr Krentist said:

 

Thought this was a pretty cool segment

 

Awe man thats cool af. I want to play Madden football like this.

[Slippery Rubber Mats]

10 hours ago, Saxum said:

 

But people hung Kermit the Frog doll with Mahones jersey on it!

 

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sports/nfl/news/kermit-the-frog-doll-outside-buffalos-highmark-stadium-divides-nfl-fans-ahead-of-bills-victory/articleshow/115422946.cms

The Viral Photo: Kermit the Frog Doll Attired in a Mahomes Jersey

Just about 30 minutes ahead of the scheduled kickoff, a picture posted on X was circulating showing a mannequin of a person dressed as Kermit the Frog, looking like Patrick Mahomes jersey and a wig, suspended from a pole near the stadium.

The image, shared by an NFL aggregator account, immediately gathered millions of views in a matter of hours.
For many, though, the Kermit comparison is an old familiar joke in NFL circles. Mahomes' voice, with its particular high pitch and playful cadence, has been likened to Kermit the Frog. The quarterback has even taken to laughing it off in interviews at it. However, to others, it seemed to represent crossing a line - transforming the lighthearted banter into a more personal and disrespectful taunt where the doll hangs from a pole.

Despite the lynching of one Kermit, I agree chiefs fans didn’t get much abuse in the way out

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

2 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

The most insane case of cope I've ever seen

 

 

Those genius plays Andy Reid supposedly saved for the playoffs causing his team to blow the 1 seed and 2 seed in the regular season last year were so outrageously good that they just squeaked by an aj klein led defense lol 

such a hilarious cope.  Bills are as good as the chiefs at minimum…just haven’t had that kc streak of luck in the playoffs yet and chiefs fans are now starting to realize it.  Don’t think they’re handling it well 😂

Edited November 20 by Generic_Bills_Fan

[ganesh]

On 11/18/2024 at 9:45 PM, Coach Tuesday said:

This is just a ridiculous take.  Mahomes was really good yesterday - made more plays with his arm than Allen.

I am not sure...Josh had as many great plays as Mahomes throwing the football.  The throws to Cooper on both sides of the field were absolutely right on spot.  The same on the play to Curtis Samuel early in the 1st quarter...Those are hard throws to make and Allen made them... Similarly, the throw to Knox was perfectly placed. 

 

 

[Rochesterfan]

5 hours ago, Big Turk said:

 

I mean, no offense, but anyone worth their salt that has any connection to an NFL team as a QC analyst or breaks down film will be able to see what the other team is doing by watching the film.

 

It's not like he is giving them stuff they aren't able to simply find themselves.

 

And with the obsession level over things like that, there is no way they are "hiding" stuff they are putting on tape from opponents.

 

Just sounds like teams are paranoid about stuff the other teams already know anyway.

 

I agree there is a major level of paranoia, but it also must have some potential impact.

 

If film study was solely enough - then teams would struggle to disguise blitz packages and QBs with 5+ years would not be tricked by coverages or blitzes or spy’s, etc.  
 

It can have an impact even beyond a single game.

 

For example:  KC lined up to go for it on 4th down and “acted” like they were trying to get the Bills to jump Offside, but with around 10 seconds left on the play clock - Mahomes just started walking toward the sidelines.  The Bills had a player following him and KC took the delay of game, but they may have been looking for something to see if they could sneak him out for a quick pass.  
 

Now that is not on film as nothing happened and the play gets sorted by penalty and is not “categorized” as a play, but if Romo (or any analyst) saw KC practicing that for a specific look and then casually mentions during the game on the 4th down - you know watch for this - it might be a good time for a trick and then if it doesn’t happen point out that - well they were setting up something, but this player followed him - that specific play that a coordinator was holding could get ruined because even though it was not on film - it was discussed durning the game as an option and people now move that to a potential trick play.

 

Now does the NFL take that to an extreme - yes definitely, but at the same time you have coaches like McD or Belicheck that won’t even share real injury information or allow media to talk about practices and players positions in preseason - my guess is they hate having production teams scouring their building and watching their specific game planning practices and talking to the coaches about the approach as they look for every edge possible - even slight perceived edges.

 

 

[Beck Water]

10 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

The most insane case of cope I've ever seen

 

 

 

Luck plays such an unacknowledged part in success, especially at the end of a long season.  For example, injury luck.  See: AJ Klein and one-winged Dodson, Bills LBs vs Chiefs.

But anyone who thinks Reid and Mahomes don't set out to do "whatever it takes" to win when they step on the field, is delusional.   See: "Paddy Melt" after Toney's Offside called back. 

[JP51]

11 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

The most insane case of cope I've ever seen

 

 

So basically he is saying that the Chiefs really didnt do everything the could to win against a division rival... cool story bro

[Solomon Grundy]

11 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

The most insane case of cope I've ever seen

 

 

Hey Brad. Neither did McDermott. He didn't use Keon Coleman or Dalton Kincaid. Refused to let KC see the Matt Milano back in the lineup. Think James Cook ran to the right side well? Wait until he's running behind Spencer Brown. To take a quote from Bart Scott on the replay, "Can't Wait"

[gordong]

15 hours ago, Dr Krentist said:

 

Thought this was a pretty cool segment

that is awesome!!!  very well explained...  

11 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

The most insane case of cope I've ever seen

 

 

and if my grandmother had wheels she would be a bike...  is he seriously trying to say they didn't throw to d-hop and kelce because they are waiting until the playoff's.  I'll have what he is smoking please.