11/17/24 Game 11 GAMEDAY! Bills vs Chiefs post game Thread

[Big Turk]

1 hour ago, Coach Tuesday said:

This is just a ridiculous take.  Mahomes was really good yesterday - made more plays with his arm than Allen.

 

Mahomes had under 200 yards passing and almost no explosive plays, what exactly are you talking about about?

 

Bills had more explosive plays in the first half than the Chiefs did all game.

[Ralonzo]

2 hours ago, skibum said:

Amazing game for the D, amazing work by the O to overcome the lack of Kincaid and Coleman. Josh had a big-balls TD run. A complete victory that could have been a blowout if not for one bad pass. 

 

Which one, the one to Morris? I'm assuming you're referencing the INT to Knox. Let's say he doesn't throw it and takes a sack, what would have been the result? Oh yeah, Chiefs ball. That play doesn't concern me, it was GOOD decision making to grenade it up there at the last second, because the downside of the pick is not much worse than not throwing it at all. This was no Sugar High Josh play no matter how many Romos try to dress it up as such.

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

15 hours ago, WhitewalkerInPhilly said:

I don't want to sell Brady short: he had the blitz beaters dialed up vs KC in the Divisional Round last year. I remember that final drive when Spags started run blitzing but Kincaid was phenomenal dinking and dunking it.

 

The success of the blitz beaters is why I was so upset about Josh gunning it to Shakir. I honestly think that if Josh hits Diggs the Bills grind out the clock and walk away with the win.

We’ll never know obviously but I’m on the other side of that one haha that drive was like pulling teeth literally nothing was easy 

 

that throw wasn’t even that much lower percentage than the throw to diggs if Dawkins holds up an extra split second it was a pretty easy pitch and catch with no one around to make a big hit as the ball got there 

[Ralonzo]

2 hours ago, stevewin said:

If it's the play I'm thinking of it was a play the Chiefs were trying to get Buffalo to jump Offside - I remember at the time thinking wtf was that and when I rewound it I think he was just trying to do something crazy there at the end to make someone jump - almost semed ad-libbed to me though it was just so odd

 

If he's running toward the LOS that's simulating a snap (unless you're in the CFL) and a false start. I think it didn't get flagged as the play clock was already at 0:00 Going from memory here, but yeah it looked goofy as Mahomes basically ran a slant pattern to the bench while the ball was still under center.

[theRalph]

If we remove the reputation, expectation, window dressing, etc. from yesterday's game, the win vs. KC looks an awful lot like the win vs. the Colts. Consider that for a moment.

[Goin Breakdown]

22 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

Mahomes had under 200 yards passing and almost no explosive plays, what exactly are you talking about about?

 

Bills had more explosive plays in the first half than the Chiefs did all game.

I'm not going to pile on the other poster. I'll just agree with you. Mahomes did nothing that was spectacular and I'm not even hating on him. It's just the truth. As much as Romo was dying to see some championship DNA from Mahomes. He got it from Allen instead. Sorry Romo. 

[LabattBlue]

That was a heck of an effort by Josh on the TD run.  At the same time, shame on the KC defender who did nothing more than throw a shoulder at Allen between the 5 & 10 yard line.  
 

BS from Mahomes after the game stating that an undefeated season wasn’t the goal.  He is full of *****.  You know they wanted the 3 peat including going undefeated. 
 

Great win by a Bills team who were dealing with injuries much more than the Chiefs.  

[Saxum]

 

[2003Contenders]

2 hours ago, davefan66 said:

Kinda forgot about this play, but just heard someone mention on WGR.  Don’t know if it was mentioned here.

 

Did anyone else notice the one play in the 3rd quarter where mahomes started to “walk off” the field while the rest of the team kinda stayed in place? I truly believe he wanted to go out for a pass for the first down. Wish he had tried as Douglas would have LIT him up!

 

Kind of a high school play, but if it works? Shame on the NFL defense.

I do remember that play. It was a 4th-and-1, and the Chiefs were pretty deep in their own territory (like the 38-yard line). So when Reid decided to line up to go for it, everyone knew that they were just trying to draw the Bills off-sides.

 

When the clock started getting close to 0. I noticed the same thing you did about Mahomes casually walking toward the sideline. Rather than thinking he was going out for a pass, though, I thought maybe the Chiefs had a direct snap in place to the RB and Mahomes was just trying to divert the attention of the defense. The Rams did this with Kurt Warner successfully  many years ago. I wonder if Andy Reid had Mahomes do this on purpose to give a look for the potential of calling a play like that in the future?

[Saxum]

10 minutes ago, LabattBlue said:

That was a heck of an effort by Josh on the TD run.  At the same time, shame on the KC defender who did nothing more than throw a shoulder at Allen between the 5 & 10 yard line.  

 

The defender was exhausted from being on defense so much and Reid / DC should have substituted for him.  Loss should be blamed on coach.  How many seconds left were there?

[The Wiz]

 

 

[davefan66]

14 minutes ago, 2003Contenders said:

I do remember that play. It was a 4th-and-1, and the Chiefs were pretty deep in their own territory (like the 38-yard line). So when Reid decided to line up to go for it, everyone knew that they were just trying to draw the Bills off-sides.

 

When the clock started getting close to 0. I noticed the same thing you did about Mahomes casually walking toward the sideline. Rather than thinking he was going out for a pass, though, I thought maybe the Chiefs had a direct snap in place to the RB and Mahomes was just trying to divert the attention of the defense. The Rams did this with Kurt Warner successfully  many years ago. I wonder if Andy Reid had Mahomes do this on purpose to give a look for the potential of calling a play like that in the future?

Good point. May have been a distraction.  Probably more so than a pass to him unless he was left wide open.  Kind of an option playing guess.  Direct snap and run, or if patty was wide open toss it to him.

His angle to the sidelines and slow roll spoke to a trick play for sure.

[syhuang]

7 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

 

 

As Allen mentioned in his post-game interview, Brady called a man beater while Chiefs hid their zone well that Allen didn't recognize it to audit it out. By looking at this tweet, the play was well designed to beat man. Brady called a good play on this 4th down critical play. Chiefs also defended the play well. If they had a spy on Allen like Romo said, Shakir or Cooper would likely be open.

[Big Turk]

1 minute ago, syhuang said:

 

 

As Allen mentioned in his post-game interview, Brady called a man beater while Chiefs hid their zone well that Allen didn't recognize it to audit it out. By looking at this tweet, the play was well designed to beat man. Brady called a good play on this 4th down critical play. Chiefs also defended the play well. If they had a spy on Allen like Romo said, Shakir or Cooper would likely be open.

 

As Orlovsky said, schematically the Chiefs won the play...nothing as open...Allen just didn't care and made a play out of nothing which is something only the great ones can do...rise above the schemes and playcalls when needed in key situations to make plays.

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

2 minutes ago, syhuang said:

 

 

As Allen mentioned in his post-game interview, Brady called a man beater while Chiefs hid their zone well that Allen didn't recognize it to audit it out. By looking at this tweet, the play was well designed to beat man. Brady called a good play on this 4th down critical play. Chiefs also defended the play well. If they had a spy on Allen like Romo said, Shakir or Cooper would likely be open.

I still just can’t get past the defense not selling out to stop a josh scramble though.  Can’t even give them partial credit for disguising the coverage well lol. I would’ve made him make a throw if it was me 

 

he is taking that into his own hands(or legs? Lol) every time in that situation 

[Simon]

1 hour ago, Ralonzo said:

Which one, the one to Morris? I'm assuming you're referencing the INT to Knox. Let's say he doesn't throw it and takes a sack, what would have been the result? Oh yeah, Chiefs ball. That play doesn't concern me, it was GOOD decision making to grenade it up there at the last second, because the downside of the pick is not much worse than not throwing it at all. This was no Sugar High Josh play no matter how many Romos try to dress it up as such.

 

I thought that was 100% on Knox for stopping his route instead of continuing across the safety's face. I think Allen had to adjust midthrow when Knox settled in the worst spot possible and ended up just having to unnaturally flick a jump ball because of it.

It's part of the reason I rarely ever want the Bills to use Knox as a target on downs that are going to decide possession; he's not as bad as Gabe Davis, but he's still just too unreliable.

[Mango]

51 minutes ago, 2003Contenders said:

I do remember that play. It was a 4th-and-1, and the Chiefs were pretty deep in their own territory (like the 38-yard line). So when Reid decided to line up to go for it, everyone knew that they were just trying to draw the Bills off-sides.

 

When the clock started getting close to 0. I noticed the same thing you did about Mahomes casually walking toward the sideline. Rather than thinking he was going out for a pass, though, I thought maybe the Chiefs had a direct snap in place to the RB and Mahomes was just trying to divert the attention of the defense. The Rams did this with Kurt Warner successfully  many years ago. I wonder if Andy Reid had Mahomes do this on purpose to give a look for the potential of calling a play like that in the future?

The snap counts  for KC are interesting. Hopkins played less than 50%? Worthy was basically benched after not getting in bounds on what was a bad throw. 
 

I do think KC played some things close to the vest.

[syhuang]

5 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

I still just can’t get past the defense not selling out to stop a josh scramble though.  Can’t even give them partial credit for disguising the coverage well lol. I would’ve made him make a throw if it was me 

 

he is taking that into his own hands(or legs? Lol) every time in that situation 

 

As much as I hate to say it, I give them credit on this defensive play. If their defensive line contain Allen well especially the DE, the result could be very different.

[Simon]

1 hour ago, Big Turk said:

 

Mahomes had under 200 yards passing and almost no explosive plays, what exactly are you talking about about?

 

 

C'mon man, he made multiple fantastic throws under duress and on the move. The kind of throws that only a handful of guys in the world can ever make.

If you plugged an average NFL QB into that offense with no weapons worth a damn going against a confusing defense that was winning up front, teh Chiefs likely get blown out of the building.

Mahomes numbers were never going to look great, but he kept that team in that game yesterday in a way that 90% of other QB's couldn't.

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

9 minutes ago, syhuang said:

 

As much as I hate to say it, I give them credit on this defensive play. If their defensive line contain Allen well especially the DE, the result could be very different.

Well yea but that’s clearly a big if 😂. I would’ve spied him there for sure.  Make him fit one in to cooper who apparently has drop issues.  Getting at least the first there with his legs was just way easier than it should’ve been.  

Edited 14 hours ago by Generic_Bills_Fan