Sans Allen, who are the untouchable players moving forward?

[appoo]

3 hours ago, Bigvinny said:

Rousseau 

Disagree. He's good but not elite

Off the top of my head my list would be:

 

1) Josh Allen

2) Taron Johnson (he's not worth a 2nd rounder perhaps in an open market, but he's worth so much more to the Bills speficially because of scheme fit and how the roster has been built)

3) Keon Coleman

4) Dion Dawkins

5) Terel Bernard

 

And that's about it

 

EDIT

 

Let me add some explanation.  

 

Allen is obvious. With Keon, I think it's pretty clear we got a steal and he should have been drafted in the top 15. This kid is super young, and has already progressed to the point where he;s getting the best of legit all-pro type corners (Riq Woolen in Seattle). To move from him you'd have to offer me something along the lines of a Marvin Harrison Jr or Malik Nabers type of talent or multiple first rounders

 

Dion Dawkins. He's not elite but his positional value is super high and I think the Bills would struggle replacing that. 

 

Bernard is similar to Taron Johnson, but more replacable. However, colleges aren't really producing much LBs with his kind of skillset where he's very comfortable dropping into coverage, playing man, blitzing and still has read and react run instincts

Edited 2 hours ago by appoo

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

3 hours ago, Cray51 said:

Untouchable (wont take calls on these guys)

Allen

Brown

Bernard

Benford

Dawkins

Taron Johnson

 

Overpay Required

Rousseau

Oliver

Shakir

 

I think everyone else I'd listen for the right price

 

 

Agree with this list, probably add Torrence.  While it's been a very limited window, I think the team would regret ever giving up Carter and Solomon. 

[Roundybout]

Just now, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said:

 

Agree with this list, probably add Torrence.  While it's been a very limited window, I think the team would regret ever giving up Carter and Solomon. 

 

Good call on Carter. I really like what he has shown so far. 

[bigduke6]

absolutely,  Benford.

[AlBUNDY4TDS]

While I do believe Benford was a hell of a find, I don't know if I would go as far to say untouchable. This team just has a way of finding guys at the cb position. They have a blueprint, long physical smart corners who have their athletic limitations.

[Brand J]

1 hour ago, LABILLBACKER said:

Yup, unless Groot starts rattling off some substantial sacks (not pressures or hits), I'm looking at him in a very similar light to Tremaine & Gabe.

I think he’s definitely a tier or two above those guys, but I don’t like the $25M/yr AAV I’m hearing. Like you said, unless he starts getting good QBs on the ground, he’s a trade-able asset. 

[Cray51]

1 hour ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said:

While I do believe Benford was a hell of a find, I don't know if I would go as far to say untouchable. This team just has a way of finding guys at the cb position. They have a blueprint, long physical smart corners who have their athletic limitations.

That’s a great point.  Mcd and Beane know how to run the secondary.