Biden is Mentally Fit Posted November 15 Posted November 15 4 minutes ago, nedboy7 said: Obama deported more people than Trump. MAGA is brainwashed. Look it up. Were Democrats/progressives upset by Obama‘s actions as they relate to deportation? If not, why all the rage now?
LeviF Posted November 15 Posted November 15 7 minutes ago, nedboy7 said: Obama deported more people than Trump. MAGA is brainwashed. Look it up. On a per year basis no, he didn't. I know what number you're citing and the books have been cooked. Return is not the same as removal. 1 1
nedboy7 Posted November 15 Posted November 15 2 minutes ago, LeviF said: On a per year basis no, he didn't. I know what number you're citing and the books have been cooked. Return is not the same as removal. He did better under every metric used to determine these numbers. 1
ScotSHO Posted November 15 Posted November 15 18 minutes ago, Tiberius said: The inevitable inflation that will follow. That's what this election was all about. Now Trump is going to show that that lesson went right over his cloudy head. Tariffs will compound the problem NOW you're worried about balancing the budget? From the party of unfunded mandates and free everything? 1 1
LeviF Posted November 15 Posted November 15 3 minutes ago, nedboy7 said: He did better under every metric used to determine these numbers. Except for the metrics that would tell us how much he crippled ERO in his final years there bottoming out at a drop of about 50% in removals from 2008 to 2016.
dgrochester55 Posted November 15 Posted November 15 27 minutes ago, Biden is Mentally Fit said: Were Democrats/progressives upset by Obama‘s actions as they relate to deportation? If not, why all the rage now? Because the media has conditioned them to think that for the past four years. Many people on both sides of the spectrum think that they have their own opinion, but in reality do not go beyond taking the word of their favorite news network as gospel and repeating it.
Tiberius Posted November 15 Author Posted November 15 58 minutes ago, LeviF said: Yeah, those housing and transport costs should go way up with 30 million fewer people around. No one to drive trucks or build new housing, ya, that will crank up prices 30 million rounded up? Wow, ya, your cheeseburger is going to cost more 42 minutes ago, ScotSHO said: NOW you're worried about balancing the budget? From the party of unfunded mandates and free everything? Huh? Balancing the budget? You don't understand even simple concepts, huh? 51 minutes ago, Biden is Mentally Fit said: Were Democrats/progressives upset by Obama‘s actions as they relate to deportation? If not, why all the rage now? What rage? Go for it. I can't wait to see this 1
Westside Posted November 15 Posted November 15 Just now, Tiberius said: No one to drive trucks or build new housing, ya, that will crank up prices 30 million rounded up? Wow, ya, your cheeseburger is going to cost more How did we survive without the 30 million illegals doing all of work? You're F'n delusional. Get some help. 1
LeviF Posted November 15 Posted November 15 1 minute ago, Tiberius said: No one to drive trucks or build new housing, ya, that will crank up prices 30 million rounded up? Wow, ya, your cheeseburger is going to cost more Huh? Balancing the budget? You don't understand even simple concepts, huh? Yeah before all these Mexicans showed up nobody knew how to build a house. 1 1
Westside Posted November 15 Posted November 15 Just now, LeviF said: Yeah before all these Mexicans showed up nobody knew how to build a house. Why would the illegals be building anything when they have the government giving them housing, food and money? They aren't working, they ae collecting. 1
Tiberius Posted November 15 Author Posted November 15 Just now, LeviF said: Yeah before all these Mexicans showed up nobody knew how to build a house. It's no knowing, its having the workers to carry that out. Something like 1/5 of the construction workforce is illegal immigrants. And food processing and agricultural work? Way more. Have at it. I'm glad this guy Trump got for this job is actually competent. 1 minute ago, Westside said: Why would the illegals be building anything when they have the government giving them housing, food and money? They aren't working, they ae collecting. That's the attitude! It does not matter if they are all removed! Trump will fix it
dgrochester55 Posted November 15 Posted November 15 13 minutes ago, Tiberius said: It's no knowing, its having the workers to carry that out. Something like 1/5 of the construction workforce is illegal immigrants. And food processing and agricultural work? Way more. There has to be a balanced way to address this. No president seems to have found that. George W. Bush (who I generally wasn't a fan of) came closest to this by proposing temporary visas/workpasses for three to six months to address the labor need for those industries, but that got massive pushback from both sides. I have multiple family members who were born in different countries, so I have no problem with immigration when done legally. I have always thought that the best balance would be making the legal process easier overall in exchange for a crackdown on illegal immigration. Not just for the US citizens, but for the protection of those coming in. It is a lot easier for immigrants to fall victim to trafficking and work scams when they are undocumented.
Tiberius Posted November 15 Author Posted November 15 1 minute ago, dgrochester55 said: There has to be a balanced way to address this. No president seems to have found that. George W. Bush (who I generally wasn't a fan of) came closest to this by proposing temporary visas/workpasses for three to six months to address the labor need for those industries, but that got massive pushback from both sides. I have multiple family members who were born in different countries, so I have no problem with immigration when done legally. I have always thought that the best balance would be making the legal process easier overall in exchange for a crackdown on illegal immigration. Not just for the US citizens, but for the protection of those coming in. It is a lot easier for immigrants to fall victim to trafficking and work scams when they are undocumented. Just let it be as it is now. What's the problem? 1
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted November 15 Posted November 15 1 hour ago, The Frankish Reich said: He's never been able to take the win. He always has to try to rub it in. He's got to try to run up the score, leave his starters in until someone gets injured. After the current administration weaponized the doj against their political opponents, can you blame him?
Tenhigh Posted November 15 Posted November 15 1 hour ago, The Frankish Reich said: He's never been able to take the win. He always has to try to rub it in. He's got to try to run up the score, leave his starters in until someone gets injured. We'll make sure to de-program this opinion out of you when you get to the camp. Enjoy your stay! 1
Tiberius Posted November 15 Author Posted November 15 2 minutes ago, Tenhigh said: We'll make sure to de-program this opinion out of you when you get to the camp. Enjoy your stay! A camp where Fox "News" plays 24/7. That's how they got you, right?
Westside Posted November 15 Posted November 15 34 minutes ago, Tiberius said: It's no knowing, its having the workers to carry that out. Something like 1/5 of the construction workforce is illegal immigrants. And food processing and agricultural work? Way more. Have at it. I'm glad this guy Trump got for this job is actually competent. That's the attitude! It does not matter if they are all removed! Trump will fix it Don’t deflect. Back up your stupid ass comment that this country won’t survive without illegal immigrants bleeding the country dry.
TH3 Posted November 15 Posted November 15 2 hours ago, Biden is Mentally Fit said: He took the W with no running up the score. Exactly…as opposed to making our country stronger and better prepared for the future..and you puds love it. Enjoy your moment 1
dgrochester55 Posted November 15 Posted November 15 (edited) 43 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Just let it be as it is now. What's the problem? Vital services in every city being overtaxed or overburdened, increased unreported (key word, don't google me a hand picked stat about how crime is "lower than ever") crime, sex trafficking and gang activity. Funny how far left people STILL have a tone deaf response to this issue after everything. I apologize for expecting a rational reply from you. That is my mistake. Edited November 15 by dgrochester55
SoonerBillsFan Posted November 15 Posted November 15 2 hours ago, Tiberius said: Ya, I'm sure this idiot and his clown crew will carry out mass deportations really well. How long until the 25th Amendment is invoked? Vance must be counting his days Invoked by who? We own the house, senate and SCOTUS.
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