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There's also a stat out there where if two teams meet during the season, the loser generally wins the SB rematch.

 

I don't think Sunday will tell us much. Unless one team beats the other 45-0 or something. 

 

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Recent history demonstrates that the Bills are more than capable of beating the Chiefs, as they've done in regular-season matchups.

 

However, when it comes to the playoffs, the Chiefs excel at analyzing those regular-season games and making the 1-2 critical adjustments that win the playoff rematches.

 

 

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Read an article yesterday where Josh essentially said there is no comparison to Mahomes. 
 

He's 0-3 when it matters. 
 

That says a lot imo. W or L in the regular season agains them isn’t his sole focus. And, given the divison standings, that’s probably the right attitude to have. 
 

 

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These are quotes:

“Well, I know we haven’t beaten them in the playoffs," Allen said. “So that’s the only thing that kind of matters.”
 

“I know the media perception and the fan perception is of what this game means. But for us, it’s just Week 11,” Allen said. “Just continuing to trust the process, not changing anything because there’s no need to. ... It’s gotten us to 8-2 thus far.”
 


 

In seven combined meetings, Mahomes has 2,243 yards from scrimmage (2,024 passing), 16 TDs (15 passing) with 5 interceptions, while Allen has 2,194 yards from scrimmage (1,801 passing), 20 TDs (16 passing), and three interceptions.
 

 

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  On 11/15/2024 at 6:56 PM, dpberr said:

Recent history demonstrates that the Bills are more than capable of beating the Chiefs, as they've done in regular-season matchups.

 

However, when it comes to the playoffs, the Chiefs excel at analyzing those regular-season games and making the 1-2 critical adjustments that win the playoff rematches.

 

 

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Which is why the Bills should not let everything out of the bag for this game. If there are any trick plays or something they notice, don't reveal it in a regular season game. 

  On 11/15/2024 at 7:01 PM, Sojourner said:

Read an article yesterday where Josh essentially said there is no comparison to Mahomes. 
 

He's 0-3 when it matters. 
 

That says a lot imo. W or L in the regular season agains them isn’t his sole focus. And, given the divison standings, that’s probably the right attitude to have. 
 

 

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These are quotes:

“Well, I know we haven’t beaten them in the playoffs," Allen said. “So that’s the only thing that kind of matters.”
 

“I know the media perception and the fan perception is of what this game means. But for us, it’s just Week 11,” Allen said. “Just continuing to trust the process, not changing anything because there’s no need to. ... It’s gotten us to 8-2 thus far.”
 


 

In seven combined meetings, Mahomes has 2,243 yards from scrimmage (2,024 passing), 16 TDs (15 passing) with 5 interceptions, while Allen has 2,194 yards from scrimmage (1,801 passing), 20 TDs (16 passing), and three interceptions.
 

 

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Allen's quotes pretty much says it all.

 

Those stats also show coaching has failed Allen.

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  On 11/15/2024 at 6:52 PM, Mr. WEO said:

 

yeah, this thread could have simply been that sentence...

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The point about teams trying to three peat kind of says the opposite though. 

 

that is what it was about.  How teams have finished their season trying to three peat.  

 

 

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Simply put, Buffalo's odds against KC are better Sunday than they will be in the playoffs should they meet there.  That doesn't mean a win in January is impossible especially if Buffalo can snag home field away from KC. 

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  On 11/15/2024 at 7:08 PM, MikePJ76 said:

The point about teams trying to three peat kind of says the opposite though. 

 

that is what it was about.  How teams have finished their season trying to three peat.  

 

 

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I guess then OP would have to change the title--it currently posits about the  Bills_chiefs game sunday ("this matchup") and the likelihood they meet again in the playoffs.   Specific to these two teams, plenty of "history says" Bills can beat them in the season, not the post season---regardless of how decades old three peats attempts resulted.

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  On 11/15/2024 at 7:17 PM, Mr. WEO said:

 

I guess then OP would have to change the title--it currently posits about the  Bills_chiefs game sunday ("this matchup") and the likelihood they meet again in the playoffs.   Specific to these two teams, plenty of "history says" Bills can beat them in the season, not the post season---regardless of how decades old three peats attempts resulted.

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I am the OP.

 

The thread is about how teams trying to 3peat have had their season ended.  of the 5 teams who made the playoffs again 3 of them lost to the same opponent in the playoffs as they did the regular season.

 

its not about the bills chiefs recent history.  It was meant as history says the bills need to win this game because of that specific history.

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  On 11/15/2024 at 7:24 PM, MikePJ76 said:

I am the OP.

 

The thread is about how teams trying to 3peat have had their season ended.  of the 5 teams who made the playoffs again 3 of them lost to the same opponent in the playoffs as they did the regular season.

 

its not about the bills chiefs recent history.  It was meant as history says the bills need to win this game because of that specific history.

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gotcha

 

I think the Bills_Chiefs history, on its own, is far more relevant to the question you ask in your title.  It answers the question. 

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Great post, good to see how tough it has been for NFL teams to get through a 3rd straight championship season--seems a lot of teams start out hot but run out of steam.

 

I'm hoping the Chiefs fit the model, we spank them Sunday and that starts their collapse. Same way we beat Pittsburgh, who were 10-0 but scraping by, a few years ago, and unmasked them. 

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  On 11/15/2024 at 7:24 PM, MikePJ76 said:

I am the OP.

 

The thread is about how teams trying to 3peat have had their season ended.  of the 5 teams who made the playoffs again 3 of them lost to the same opponent in the playoffs as they did the regular season.

 

its not about the bills chiefs recent history.  It was meant as history says the bills need to win this game because of that specific history.

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Hi OP (red hair I assume?)

My son came home from school today, grade 11. He said they were learning about this game in his history class! Can you believe it?!? I mean when you said it was a historical game you meant it\. They are now teaching students in lacawana and Rochester and Toronto about this coming game.

I says son, what did they learn you?

He says Pops, it historical in many facets. Taylor Swift and the bangees will be there again. Brother Kelce will be chewed outta his mind, rolling in cash, and selling dope at halftime - again.

I guess history really does repeat itself OP. Man I can't wait to watch history in the making unfolding right before our eyes.

Go Bills!

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  On 11/15/2024 at 4:53 PM, Logic said:

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...just kidding. Good post. Thanks. I'm honestly pretty laid back about this game, considering how big many consider it to be and considering the opponent. We've beaten them three times in the regular season, and it just never means much in the postseason. So if we win the game, I won't get too high about it. On the flipside, if we lose, so be it. The real test will come in the playoffs. Everything between here and the playoffs is about getting the best seed we can, staying as healthy as possible, and ironing out any kinks.

The first season is going well and I'm enjoying it, but the second season is the important one. Fans know it, players know it. Would love to see a win this weekend, but either way, it's still about the playoffs. I understand what you're saying about history and precedent, but it's hard for me to put much stock in either. Maybe it's just me.

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I'm pretty much in line with your take here. It's unusual for me, but I'm not that nervous for this one. I'm super pumped for the game, because I think a chance at the 1-seed is big, really big. Bills history in the playoffs proves they may need every possible advantage they can get. And if the Bills win, it will change how I watch the rest of the season because of the magnitude of each game and where it puts us. But if the Bills lose, it's still fine. However, I won't watch the rest of the season with the same intensity as it's likely the Bills will be rolling to a 2 or 3 seed. 

 

 

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Thanks for the research Mike.  For the record, Green Bay won the NFL Championship in 1965 before the Super Bowl began so they did in fact have a three peat; winning in 66 and 67. I see Buffalo winning this game. It remains to be seen whether they face KC in the playoffs. I remember the 1969 LA Rams went 11-0. They lost their last three and lost in the playoffs to Joe Kapp and the Vikings. The point being, they seemed invincible until they weren’t. The Chiefs might run into the same bout of mortality. Maybe some other poor sob will face them in the playoffs first and do the job for us. 

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  On 11/15/2024 at 2:55 PM, Dillenger4 said:

cool story bro. I could care less. I just want, and we NEED the W! Don't care what guys with leather helmets did.

 

But in all honesty, you get a passing grade. Well done. I'd say it was a waste of ink, but.....

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Don't kill the passion of the OP.   Hats off to him.   We definitely need this win.  Otherwise, the narrative that the "Bills are a weak playoff team" will gain steam with losses to KC, Baltimore and Houston.   

Hope McDermott has his team ready to play this game and win.  Go Bills !!!

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