Royale with Cheese Posted November 14 Posted November 14 15 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: I posted that already. Sitting around in a contract year isn't a strong move. As for "contract year", he really hasn't faced one--he was traded from every team and only 1 (Cowboys) extended an existing contract. Again, what will sell him the most for this season is his film this year with the Bills. Your most recent film is what the teams will at. What does it matter if he's never had one? He's in one now and he makes more money the better his film will look. That would be incentive to not play with an injury. You want to be at your best. It's the business side of the NFL that sucks. 1 Quote
Blackbeard Posted November 14 Posted November 14 8 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said: Yep. And meanwhile tyreek hill is playing with torn ligaments in his wrist Yes, but it is entirely not Tyreek's fault. The NERVE of those cops! 2 hours ago, DeltaDigital said: Homie just doesn't want to play. Or maybe homie has an injury. 1 Quote
Cheektowaga Chad Posted November 14 Posted November 14 As long as he is healthy heading into the playoffs I don't care how many weeks he sits out due to injury Get him healthy We got him for the playoffs and with him we are a legit contender, without we aren't Quote
SoonerBillsFan Posted November 14 Posted November 14 1 hour ago, HansLanda said: While I do not know if you are a professional about body language, I certainly am not, but it is widely known AC is not a hugely animated man - talent and work ethic was never in question even at Alabama. I agree with that, there was a shot on the sideline at the End of the Tennessee game where players were hyped and players were giving each other fist bumps etc. And someone tried to do it with him and he looked annoyed, then gave this fake "whatever " smile / look, then went back to looking annoyed. There have been some shots of him at practice where he just didn't look happy to be there. It's just a culmination of things that seem off that bother me. Add to that he allegedly had been cleared to play but just feels wrong or sore or whatever and it adds up to a guy that doesn't want to be here for me. And I'll say I might be wrong,but there is too much smoke for there not to be a fire imho 1 1 Quote
machine gun kelly Posted November 14 Posted November 14 2 hours ago, WotAGuy said: In a way, yes. He’s a free agent next year. The Bills are unlikely to sign him. So he has a lot of personal incentive to not further injure himself or be at less than his capability because it will cost him in his next contract. As it is, his value is declining. Or WAG, the other possibility is he needs to prove to McBeane he’s worth an extension so goes all out the rest of the year to get a modest extension for maybe three years with year three voidable. That will help us now, and give us time to build more draft WR depth. it would be nice to see a healthy Cooper, Coleman, Shakir, and Kinkaid for SF with Milano back. That’s our playoff run. Wr’s don’t grow on trees. Finding an easy Cooper replacement isn’t that easy based on where we draft, and we still need to fill DE, and on, and on. 1 Quote
dollars 2 donuts Posted November 14 Posted November 14 17 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Again, what will sell him the most for this season is his film this year with the Bills. Your most recent film is what the teams will at. What does it matter if he's never had one? He's in one now and he makes more money the better his film will look. That would be incentive to not play with an injury. You want to be at your best. It's the business side of the NFL that sucks. 5 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said: I agree with that, there was a shot on the sideline at the End of the Tennessee game where players were hyped and players were giving each other fist bumps etc. And someone tried to do it with him and he looked annoyed, then gave this fake "whatever " smile / look, then went back to looking annoyed. There have been some shots of him at practice where he just didn't look happy to be there. It's just a culmination of things that seem off that bother me. Add to that he allegedly had been cleared to play but just feels wrong or sore or whatever and it adds up to a guy that doesn't want to be here for me. And I'll say I might be wrong,but there is too much smoke for there not to be a fire imho 1 minute ago, machine gun kelly said: Or WAG, the other possibility is he needs to prove to McBeane he’s worth an extension so goes all out the rest of the year to get a modest extension for maybe three years with year three voidable. That will help us now, and give us time to build more draft WR depth. it would be nice to see a healthy Cooper, Coleman, Shakir, and Kinkaid for SF with Milano back. That’s our playoff run. Wr’s don’t grow on trees. Finding an easy Cooper replacement isn’t that easy based on where we draft, and we still need to fill DE, and on, and on. Yes, GUNS and Royale. SBF, I understand what you are saying, but I cannot get it out of my head that even if he hated it here worse than Dante's Inferno he has only 7 games left plus playoff games on a Super Bowl contender with a generational QB who can only make his life after this season better. So some may be seeing something, but it just doesn't mesh with reality. Go Bills. 1 Quote
Mr. WEO Posted November 14 Posted November 14 23 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Again, what will sell him the most for this season is his film this year with the Bills. Your most recent film is what the teams will at. What does it matter if he's never had one? He's in one now and he makes more money the better his film will look. That would be incentive to not play with an injury. You want to be at your best. It's the business side of the NFL that sucks. well, it's not looking like much right now... it would be best for him to get in the game no? we agree on that. Quote
JGMcD2 Posted November 14 Posted November 14 (edited) I’m not ready to start freaking out yet. If he’s cleared, it’s a pain management thing. Dalton Kincaid was cleared to go back in the game on Sunday and pulled himself. He felt like he couldn’t protect himself with the way his body felt. Who is to say it’s not the same thing with Cooper? These guys are ELITE athletes that rely on their body for a living. I understand he’s cleared, but nobody knows him better than him. I’ve seen players cleared by trainers and told it’s just a pain management thing, but the player continues to report significant pain. This forces additional tests and imaging - shocker it was actually a significant injury that was misdiagnosed. Edited November 14 by JGMcD2 2 Quote
78thealltimegreat Posted November 14 Posted November 14 (edited) The guy has a chance to showcase his skills in one of the biggest regular season games of the year as an impending free agent…he’s either really soft, doesn’t have a high pain threshold, just doesn’t wanna play football anymore, or he flat out hates Buffalo. I’m going with he’s soft. Edited November 14 by 78thealltimegreat 1 2 1 Quote
Drew21PA Posted November 14 Posted November 14 Don’t like it - dudes gonna retire at halftime 2 1 6 Quote
WotAGuy Posted November 14 Posted November 14 Cooper has made a ton of money in his career. He knows his body and he knows his situation related to this year and a future contract. He’s going to make the best decision for him, and I can’t blame him. He’s a smart guy; he’s doing what he thinks is in his best interest. 1 Quote
Jauronimo Posted November 14 Posted November 14 16 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said: I agree with that, there was a shot on the sideline at the End of the Tennessee game where players were hyped and players were giving each other fist bumps etc. And someone tried to do it with him and he looked annoyed, then gave this fake "whatever " smile / look, then went back to looking annoyed. There have been some shots of him at practice where he just didn't look happy to be there. It's just a culmination of things that seem off that bother me. Add to that he allegedly had been cleared to play but just feels wrong or sore or whatever and it adds up to a guy that doesn't want to be here for me. And I'll say I might be wrong,but there is too much smoke for there not to be a fire imho Thats not smoke. That is one man's bizarre fixation with smiling on the sideline. 2 Quote
FLFan Posted November 14 Posted November 14 2 hours ago, Andrew Son said: I don't have great feelings about this guy. It's rare you get comments from McD that can be viewed as critical of a player. I think it's clear that Cooper is a different kind of guy, it's probably why he's bounced around. I don't see him has having that Bills "DNA." I know some have speculated that we extend him beyond this year but I don't see that as a fit. Hopefully this is just a blip and he gets us where we need to go this year. He is not making much of a case for being resigned with the Bills, or any other team really. 1 Quote
Goin Breakdown Posted November 14 Posted November 14 So are we in the drive Cooper out of town mode? I mean he may actually be hurt. If he drops an important pass because he's not ready, are we ok with that? 2 1 Quote
Solomon Grundy Posted November 14 Posted November 14 Come on fellas!! You need your wrists to catch a football with your hands. To squeeze the football and secure it. Would anyone be happy if he played but continually dropped passes? Say the go ahead TD pass. If he can't go out and be the dominant Amari Cooper, then sit until healthy. Learn anything from the Curtis Samuel situation?🤔 4 Quote
Royale with Cheese Posted November 14 Posted November 14 7 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: well, it's not looking like much right now... it would be best for him to get in the game no? we agree on that. You keep missing the point.... The point is not going out there with an injury. You want to be at your best when they look at your film. Quote
Blackbeard Posted November 14 Posted November 14 25 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said: I agree with that, there was a shot on the sideline at the End of the Tennessee game where players were hyped and players were giving each other fist bumps etc. And someone tried to do it with him and he looked annoyed, then gave this fake "whatever " smile / look, then went back to looking annoyed. There have been some shots of him at practice where he just didn't look happy to be there. It's just a culmination of things that seem off that bother me. Add to that he allegedly had been cleared to play but just feels wrong or sore or whatever and it adds up to a guy that doesn't want to be here for me. And I'll say I might be wrong,but there is too much smoke for there not to be a fire imho Some people who are quite/shy/introverted types come off as disinterested or arrogant. Usually it's just that.. they're shy, etc. Not everyone gets all super happy and affectionate all the time. Introverts get mislabeled a lot. Let's err on the side of caution here and not cast him out just yet. 3 Quote
BarleyNY Posted November 14 Posted November 14 4 minutes ago, FLFan said: He is not making much of a case for being resigned with the Bills, or any other team really. Playing poorly is the worst thing a pending FA can do (next to having a catastrophic injury). Not playing isn’t great, but it’s not nearly as bad. But we don’t even know whether or not he’s going to play. There are a lot of people here that are getting ahead of themselves on that. If I was McDermott I would want to keep KC guessing on whether or not he is going to play. Cooper’s impact on the defensive play calling is huge. No need to tell KC how to game plan for us. Quote
ShakAttack Posted November 14 Posted November 14 If the Bills are being more cautious with injuries this season because we are in a less desperate situation than seasons past (around this time of the season) then I am all for it. If we are relatively healthier than we have been all year once the playoffs start, we should all be thankful that some of our guys didn’t play on injuries that they were technically “cleared” to play with. that’s the difference between being 8-2 and being Tyreek Hill playing for a team that is on thin ice. 2 2 Quote
TBBills Fan Posted November 14 Posted November 14 1 hour ago, BuffaloBillies said: Sunday at 4:25 ET will be pretty close to exactly 3 weeks since he hurt his wrist. No broken bones, no report of ligament damage. It just hurts. 3 weeks I had a similar wrist injury. Was not football related tho 1 4 Quote
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