DOGE

[B-Man]

 

 

 

[BillsFanNC]

 

 

On the IRS.gov website, the "log in" button was not in the top right on the navbar like it is on most websites. It was weirdly placed in the middle of the page below the fold.

An IRS engineer explained that the *soonest* this change could get deployed is July 21st... 103 days from now. 

This engineer worked with the DOGE team to delete the red tape and accomplished the task in 71 minutes.  See before/after pictures below. 

There are great people at the IRS, who are simply being strangled by bureaucracy.

[stevestojan]

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 Technology gets challenging for the elderly. 
 

Don’t worry, you have 6 more days to figure out where the button is. I know change can be hard, gramps. 
 

 

Edited Thursday at 01:21 AM by stevestojan

[B-Man]

 

 

 

 

[daz28]

6 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

 

 

Everyone has known this for years and years, including from 2016-2020.  You think it's strange that people don't trust DOGE either?  Especially considering that they pretty much do whatever they want with no oversight.  

[AlBUNDY4TDS]

35 minutes ago, daz28 said:

Everyone has known this for years and years, including from 2016-2020.  You think it's strange that people don't trust DOGE either?  Especially considering that they pretty much do whatever they want with no oversight.  

The government needs to cutback on spending, it's the only way. The people who don't trust doge are the ones losing their golden goose.

[daz28]

2 hours ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said:

The government needs to cutback on spending, it's the only way. The people who don't trust doge are the ones losing their golden goose.

I don't trust DOGE, because I have no idea what they're doing.  They're basically the plumber going into the attic, and when I ask why, he tells me never mind, because I'm not a plumber and I'm likely a "fraudster" for even asking.  I DO like the mission itself, though.  

[daz28]

3 hours ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said:

The government needs to cutback on spending, it's the only way. The people who don't trust doge are the ones losing their golden goose.

Stuff like this:

 

Elon Musk and his Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) reportedly cut 30 National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) workers in February, disproportionately affecting regulators tasked with assessing self-driving vehicle risks, according to a Financial Times report.

 

This is very questionable to me, but I'm going to keep quiet, because I don't want to be identified as a fraudster.  

[AlBUNDY4TDS]

17 minutes ago, daz28 said:

Stuff like this:

 

Elon Musk and his Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) reportedly cut 30 National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) workers in February, disproportionately affecting regulators tasked with assessing self-driving vehicle risks, according to a Financial Times report.

 

This is very questionable to me, but I'm going to keep quiet, because I don't want to be identified as a fraudster.  

How many self driving vehicles are in operation?

[daz28]

43 minutes ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said:

How many self driving vehicles are in operation?

That's usually the best time to have the NHTSA looking at them right?  Or should we put them on the road, and then worry about if they're safe?  I hope you're being dumb here intentionally.  

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

1 hour ago, daz28 said:

I don't trust DOGE, because I have no idea what they're doing.  They're basically the plumber going into the attic, and when I ask why, he tells me never mind, because I'm not a plumber and I'm likely a "fraudster" for even asking.  I DO like the mission itself, though.  

Acknowledging the initiative is the right thing to do is a good first step.  
 

As far as people not liking the process, that likely falls along political lines.   
 

I don’t like chaos, certainly don’t like to see friends or neighbors impacted by job losses, but as you indicated, pretty much everyone has known we (taxpayers) are getting fleeced and have been for decades.  
 

Sometimes you use a scalpel, sometimes an axe.  

[Taro T]

1 hour ago, daz28 said:

Stuff like this:

 

Elon Musk and his Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) reportedly cut 30 National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) workers in February, disproportionately affecting regulators tasked with assessing self-driving vehicle risks, according to a Financial Times report.

 

This is very questionable to me, but I'm going to keep quiet, because I don't want to be identified as a fraudster.  

 

It's a small point, but an important one: DoGE doesn't cut ANYTHING.  They make recommendations to the department/agency they happen to be auditing at the time and the department/agency head takes that recommendation into consideration and then performs an action (or doesn't) based upon their view of that recommendation.  Pretty sure there is nothing forcing those leaders to do exactly what DoGE has recommended.

Edited Thursday at 10:27 PM by Taro T

[daz28]

52 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

Acknowledging the initiative is the right thing to do is a good first step.  
 

As far as people not liking the process, that likely falls along political lines.   
 

I don’t like chaos, certainly don’t like to see friends or neighbors impacted by job losses, but as you indicated, pretty much everyone has known we (taxpayers) are getting fleeced and have been for decades.  
 

Sometimes you use a scalpel, sometimes an axe.  

What has me pissed off is your average maga moron gets armed by Fox news with a bow and arrow to go fight a tank, and they still come out thinking they won.  The current GQP DOGE talking point is, "all those people against DOGE must love fraud and abuse".  They're too dumb to even realize that first salvo doesn't even make sense.  This whole bold mandate approach on everything is BS.  Like you said, sometimes a scalpel is the tool; a 'targeted' tariff system; tax breaks aimed at encouraging startups instead of just massive tax breaks.  No one has TDS, they just can see how dumb their policies are being implemented.  It's not the policies, it's the administration doing them.  Would the Democrats do better, probably not, so BOTH parties are a disease that needs eradicating.  

45 minutes ago, Taro T said:

 

It's a small point, but an important one: DoGE doesn't cut ANYTHING.  They make recommendations to the department/agency they happen to be auditing at the time and the department/agency head takes that recommendation into consideration and then performs an action (or doesn't) based upon their view of that recommendation.  Pretty sure there is nothing forcing those leaders to do exactly what DoGE has recommended.

The 'agency' heads are either complying or being replaced.  Fortunately, the GAO(independent, but has done a horrible job to this point) is currently watching them.  The people who DOGE should ACTUALLY be accountable to is Congress.  The Constitution makes it very clear they do the funding.  

 

Sen. Susan Collins (R-ME) and Sen. Patty Murray (D-WA) have raised concerns over the Trump administration’s selective disbursement of emergency funding. They recently expressed their objections to Office of Management and Budget Director Russell Vought. The bipartisan pair argued that withholding funds undermines legislative processes and violates Congress’s intent.  Collins and Murray wrote, “Just as the President does not have a line-item veto, he does not have the ability to pick and choose which emergency spending to designate.”

Edited Thursday at 11:13 PM by daz28

[IrishLass]

2 hours ago, daz28 said:

Stuff like this:

 

Elon Musk and his Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) reportedly cut 30 National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) workers in February, disproportionately affecting regulators tasked with assessing self-driving vehicle risks, according to a Financial Times report.

 

This is very questionable to me, but I'm going to keep quiet, because I don't want to be identified as a fraudster.  

 

So they both "cut them" AND they "only have the power to make recommendations?"

 

Which is it?

[BillsFanNC]

 

[Taro T]

1 hour ago, daz28 said:

What has me pissed off is your average maga moron gets armed by Fox news with a bow and arrow to go fight a tank, and they still come out thinking they won.  The current GQP DOGE talking point is, "all those people against DOGE must love fraud and abuse".  They're too dumb to even realize that first salvo doesn't even make sense.  This whole bold mandate approach on everything is BS.  Like you said, sometimes a scalpel is the tool; a 'targeted' tariff system; tax breaks aimed at encouraging startups instead of just massive tax breaks.  No one has TDS, they just can see how dumb their policies are being implemented.  It's not the policies, it's the administration doing them.  Would the Democrats do better, probably not, so BOTH parties are a disease that needs eradicating.  

The 'agency' heads are either complying or being replaced.  Fortunately, the GAO(independent, but has done a horrible job to this point) is currently watching them.  The people who DOGE should ACTUALLY be accountable to is Congress.  The Constitution makes it very clear they do the funding.  

 

Sen. Susan Collins (R-ME) and Sen. Patty Murray (D-WA) have raised concerns over the Trump administration’s selective disbursement of emergency funding. They recently expressed their objections to Office of Management and Budget Director Russell Vought. The bipartisan pair argued that withholding funds undermines legislative processes and violates Congress’s intent.  Collins and Murray wrote, “Just as the President does not have a line-item veto, he does not have the ability to pick and choose which emergency spending to designate.”

 

Respectfully completely disagree that DoGE should be accountable to Congress.  They're accountable to the President and to the Department/Agency heads running the different Executive bodies.  THOSE are the people that end up accountable to the American citizenry and to Congress and the SCOTUS through the Constitutional system of checks and balances.

 

Having midlevel people directly accountable to those outside the Executive branch creates all sorts of other issues. 

[daz28]

2 hours ago, IrishLass said:

 

So they both "cut them" AND they "only have the power to make recommendations?"

 

Which is it?

Taro is the one who said that, because he watches Fox news, and doesn't see what they don't report.

1 hour ago, Taro T said:

 

Respectfully completely disagree that DoGE should be accountable to Congress.  They're accountable to the President and to the Department/Agency heads running the different Executive bodies.  THOSE are the people that end up accountable to the American citizenry and to Congress and the SCOTUS through the Constitutional system of checks and balances.

 

Having midlevel people directly accountable to those outside the Executive branch creates all sorts of other issues. 

Not in manners of the purse.  Like Susan Collins said, he doesn't get to change funding, even though he heads the departments(officers) that Congress anointed.  If that were the case, the president would just make and sign his own budgets.  I don't like the spending that Congress does, but that's their job.  If YOU don't like the spending Congress(or anything else) is doing, then why do you keep voting for incumbents?

Edited Friday at 02:24 AM by daz28

[yall]

10 hours ago, BillsFanNC said:

 

This is fantastic 

 

Accenture and Deloitte are nothing but scam artists and thieves. 

 

I've worked many times with both firms in IT consulting and I'd love to see both orgs go down in flames.

[Roundybout]

19 hours ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said:

The government needs to cutback on spending, it's the only way. The people who don't trust doge are the ones losing their golden goose.

I refuse to make cuts to arts and sciences. We got to the top of the planet through scientific achievements. 

[AlBUNDY4TDS]

7 minutes ago, Roundybout said:

I refuse to make cuts to arts and sciences. We got to the top of the planet through scientific achievements. 

You don't have a choice.