daz28 Posted February 12 Posted February 12 5 minutes ago, dgrochester55 said: To the libs out there protesting DOGE like it is the end of the world. Do you think that the US has been inefficient in their spending over the past few decades? Is DOGE terrible to you because of who is behind it or what it consists of? If Obama or Biden did this, would you have still been against it? Personally, I can say that some things go beyond politics. I am fine with this regardless who the president is. Same way that I was glad to see Biden put through an infrastructure bill (despite the climate scheme pork.) No President is 100% good or 100% bad. Financial accountability and transparency in the government was desperately needed and the spending leaking out has proven it. Edit: One last request. They aren't going after our Social security, every cabinet member for any president is unelected and some wasteful spending was definitely uncovered, so don't play those three cards and give sensible replies only. For me it's simple that Elon needs to just shut up, and do his thing LEGALLY, especially when it comes to talking about "cutting" anything. The guy acts like he's a branch of government, and holds power. He holds no power, except that as an ADVISER. Also, he's only legally allowed to work 130 days as a 'special government employee', which I'd bet anything they won't honor. I love what he's doing, but hate how he's doing it. Him and the prez have this 'it's all about me' thing, that's unbecoming of a public servant. 1
daz28 Posted February 12 Posted February 12 13 minutes ago, Pokebball said: It's only been 3 wks. So it's alleged fraud/corruption then. I wish they'd just quit playing politics, because there's no election for 2 more years. The last thing this country needs is endless campaigning. You found waste? Fine fix it. You found corruption? Nail em. You identify fraud? Keep quiet and build cases. Save the political theater until summer 2026. 1
Pokebball Posted February 12 Posted February 12 (edited) 7 minutes ago, daz28 said: So it's alleged fraud/corruption then. I wish they'd just quit playing politics, because there's no election for 2 more years. The last thing this country needs is endless campaigning. You found waste? Fine fix it. You found corruption? Nail em. You identify fraud? Keep quiet and build cases. Save the political theater until summer 2026. I guess it's alleged by the OMB then too? OMB works for Congress. Why hasn't Congress pursued OMBs findings? Edited February 12 by Pokebball
daz28 Posted February 12 Posted February 12 1 minute ago, Pokebball said: I guess it's alleged by the OMB then too? OMB works for Congress. Why hasn't Congress pursued OMBs findings? Any crime that's not been adjudicated is alleged. It certainly can't be helping the DOJ's cases to point out the fraud publicly. The fraudsters can hide evidence, and begin their legal strategies ahead of time. They should just keep quiet, and then bust them when the time is right. Again, too much politics. 1
JFKjr Posted February 12 Posted February 12 7 minutes ago, daz28 said: Any crime that's not been adjudicated is alleged. It certainly can't be helping the DOJ's cases to point out the fraud publicly. The fraudsters can hide evidence, and begin their legal strategies ahead of time. They should just keep quiet, and then bust them when the time is right. Again, too much politics. You are gravely underestimating what Trump and his team(s) are doing. Ah yes, they 'don't have the evidence' so therefore they will ANNOUNCE the things they merely 'suspect' in order to give the fraudsters the opportunity time to hide all their deeds. And you are going to give the Trump team some great advice (which surely they would not have thought of) to "just keep quiet." This is all coming out now because they HAVE the receipts. Are you familiar with the Trump statement "I caught them all?" Making things public at this point means the Libs/Dems/RINOs/Deepstaters have already lost the war. But, we're going to see plenty of fireworks as the show goes down. 1
dgrochester55 Posted February 12 Posted February 12 (edited) 51 minutes ago, daz28 said: For me it's simple that Elon needs to just shut up, and do his thing LEGALLY, especially when it comes to talking about "cutting" anything. The guy acts like he's a branch of government, and holds power. He holds no power, except that as an ADVISER. Also, he's only legally allowed to work 130 days as a 'special government employee', which I'd bet anything they won't honor. I love what he's doing, but hate how he's doing it. Him and the prez have this 'it's all about me' thing, that's unbecoming of a public servant. That's fair. I don't fully trust musk either. What i would ideally like to see is a shift to a bipartisan search (although I doubt the dems would cooperate) and transparency to the point where every single thing is viewable to the public. That would be enough to help offset the potential of Musk or Trump taking things too far with power in this. I understand a stance like "I just don't trust Musk/Trump to do it fairly." What annoys me is irrational thoughts acting as if overspending isn't a problem and the media purposely lying about this affecting social security. Overall, I would have much rather seen Trump than Harris, but don't care for him either. Given the choice, I decided that I would prefer a President who runs his mouth like an idiot, but actively works hard with an intent to improve the US than one who gives fuzzy happy platitudes, but does absolutely nothing. There is a slight chance that he goes off the rails, but I trust that if him or Musk were to ever get too power hungry, that enough Republicans would shift and get him out. Edited February 12 by dgrochester55 1
JaCrispy Posted February 12 Posted February 12 3 hours ago, JFKjr said: The guilty are pulling out all the stops to protect their secrets…respect…🤣🤣🤣
Homelander Posted February 12 Posted February 12 Let me show you DOGE's success via its official U.S. government website: https://doge.gov/ 1
aristocrat Posted February 12 Posted February 12 16 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: These dem protest rallies of late are hot! where's roundy?
BillsFanNC Posted February 12 Posted February 12 "You guys aren't going to be satisfied until you see 10,000 pages of evidence." WRONG Chris. They will NEVER be satisfied. 1 2
Taro T Posted February 12 Posted February 12 (edited) 11 hours ago, JFKjr said: You are gravely underestimating what Trump and his team(s) are doing. Ah yes, they 'don't have the evidence' so therefore they will ANNOUNCE the things they merely 'suspect' in order to give the fraudsters the opportunity time to hide all their deeds. And you are going to give the Trump team some great advice (which surely they would not have thought of) to "just keep quiet." This is all coming out now because they HAVE the receipts. Are you familiar with the Trump statement "I caught them all?" Making things public at this point means the Libs/Dems/RINOs/Deepstaters have already lost the war. But, we're going to see plenty of fireworks as the show goes down. And THAT is why IIRC the RI judge (there's so many lawsuits currently in play, hard to keep track of them all) ordered DOGE and the Treasury Secretary to not just not access any files/servers/databases but also to delete anything they've currently obtained. And THAT in a TRO is truly d*mning of the judge's intentions. To tell them not to do anything with the data while the lawsuit is in motion seems reasonable. To tell them to get rid of it all which allows any bad actor an ability to delete potentially without any records of what they're deleting should they also manage to delete items from the current archives, seems rather shortsighted and premature at a minimum and rather nefarious in itself in a worst case. Edited February 12 by Taro T 1
SCBills Posted February 12 Posted February 12 Democrats are cooked if Jasmine Crockett remains a leading voice of their party. Absolute joke of a Congresswoman. 2 1
JDHillFan Posted February 12 Author Posted February 12 Roundy sh*tting him/her/theirself/selves and pounding HATCH ACT into the ground is imminent. 1
daz28 Posted February 12 Posted February 12 14 hours ago, BillsFanNC said: Do you have link to this information?
BillsFanNC Posted February 12 Posted February 12 No transparency! 🚨‼️JUST IN: President Trump commends Elon, announces a news conference set for TOMORROW — — will read list of names of recipients of waste, fraud and abuse. "I'm going to read to you some of the names that hundreds of millions and even billions of dollars have been given to." “I say it in front of our our attorney general. There's no chance that there's not kickbacks or something going on. When you give millions and millions of dollars to somebody that stands to look at something for 15 minutes and walks away with millions of dollars. That money's coming back in some form. And that's only one form of corruption." "I went through a list of 200 expenditures that were made, and I found three that looked like they were reasonable. Okay, three and, we'll be talking about that tomorrow." "I want to commend Elon. He doesn't need this. You know, he's abused by you people every day. He's found more things than anybody could find." 3
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