JDHillFan Posted February 7 Author Posted February 7 1 minute ago, daz28 said: So intelligent is putting people you DO KNOW robbed the government in charge? They are nowhere near being transparent. Throwing out a few small, misleading things isn't doing it for me, and some of it seems to be clearly partisan. Describe the robbery of the government if you don’t mind. Would love to see some sources but suspect they aren’t available.
daz28 Posted February 8 Posted February 8 2 minutes ago, JDHillFan said: Describe the robbery of the government if you don’t mind. Would love to see some sources but suspect they aren’t available. Tesla/global warming. You can do your own research. 2
K D Posted February 8 Posted February 8 2 minutes ago, daz28 said: Tesla/global warming. You can do your own research. The libs you probably voted for decided to give Elon grants and that's him "stealing"? Yikes man. They give the same grants or more to GM. Sounds like you have Elon derangement syndrome.
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted February 8 Posted February 8 34 minutes ago, daz28 said: It's almost like there's leaches all over the place, trying to get in on the government fundstravaganza. I'd prefer that whoever sets out to fix it isn't someone who is guilty of taking advantage of those rounding errors. Do I think the government wasted billions on Tesla? Yes. Am I going to breathe easy knowing a guy, who has abused taxpayer money, is in charge of fixing it? No. Good job dancing around the question. Psst your bias is clearly showing.
JDHillFan Posted February 8 Author Posted February 8 4 minutes ago, daz28 said: Tesla/global warming. You can do your own research. Isn’t it called climate change now? Tesla ROBBED the government. This reminds me of when you wanted people to believe you when you said America First was a movement of ONE MILLION American nazis. 🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted February 8 Posted February 8 7 minutes ago, daz28 said: Tesla/global warming. You can do your own research. Trust me bro! Classic. 1 1
daz28 Posted February 8 Posted February 8 2 minutes ago, K D said: The libs you probably voted for decided to give Elon grants and that's him "stealing"? Yikes man. They give the same grants or more to GM. Sounds like you have Elon derangement syndrome. Giving grants, based on lies, is corruption. Corruption is stealing. This is government market manipulation(also corruption): The tax credit was restored in 2023 as part of the Biden administration’s Inflation Reduction Act. But Musk has encouraged the incoming Trump administration to end the $7,500 tax credit, which would seem to be against Tesla’s interests but would be a blow for established automakers seeking to get a share of the US EV market. Those legacy automakers would have to accept bigger losses on their EV sales or pull back on offerings, which would reduce competition for Tesla. “Take away the subsidies, it will only help Tesla,” Musk posted on his social media platform X in July. Any references to "derangement syndrome" will denote a losing argument. It's actually fact derangement syndrome.
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted February 8 Posted February 8 I'm sorry I knew the election would break alot of democrats but the hysteria is really jacked up to 10.
daz28 Posted February 8 Posted February 8 3 minutes ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said: Good job dancing around the question. Psst your bias is clearly showing. My bias? I'm not supporting a known government grifter.
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted February 8 Posted February 8 (edited) 1 minute ago, daz28 said: My bias? I'm not supporting a known government grifter. Lol the Biden admin was a giant grift if you haven't been paying attention. Good luck dude. Edited February 8 by AlBUNDY4TDS
daz28 Posted February 8 Posted February 8 4 minutes ago, JDHillFan said: Isn’t it called climate change now? Tesla ROBBED the government. This reminds me of when you wanted people to believe you when you said America First was a movement of ONE MILLION American nazis. 🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻 Is that your best attempt to deflect? There were at least a million nazi supporters/simps. 1 minute ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said: Lol the Biden admin was a giant grift if you haven't been paying attention. Good luck dude. We're discussing Elon's grift right now. Biden helped him.
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted February 8 Posted February 8 1 minute ago, daz28 said: Is that your best attempt to deflect? There were at least a million nazi supporters/simps. We're discussing Elon's grift right now. Biden helped him. Elon doesn't need more money, I'm having a hard time buying what your selling. 1
daz28 Posted February 8 Posted February 8 So is anyone going to provide anything to support that Elon didn't grift billions of dollars, or just stick to ad hominem? Just now, AlBUNDY4TDS said: Elon doesn't need more money, I'm having a hard time buying what your selling. Elon was on the verge of bankruptcy. until he grifted the government. He's openly stated this.
JDHillFan Posted February 8 Author Posted February 8 2 minutes ago, daz28 said: Is that your best attempt to deflect? There were at least a million nazi supporters/simps. At the time of the original discussion, I asked you to provide one single example where “one million American nazis” was documented. You couldn’t then and you can’t know. Your schtick is to make a claim with authority (but without evidence) and then go around in circles trying to prove it. Super lame.
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted February 8 Posted February 8 3 minutes ago, daz28 said: So is anyone going to provide anything to support that Elon didn't grift billions of dollars, or just stick to ad hominem? Elon was on the verge of bankruptcy. until he grifted the government. He's openly stated this. By grifting you mean enjoying the same benefits that were given to GM?
daz28 Posted February 8 Posted February 8 1 minute ago, JDHillFan said: At the time of the original discussion, I asked you to provide one single example where “one million American nazis” was documented. You couldn’t then and you can’t know. Your schtick is to make a claim with authority (but without evidence) and then go around in circles trying to prove it. Super lame. I showed you that there was widespread support for Nazi's, and there was. It's not my fault you have no historical understanding of the 'America First' movement. Try reading more. Anyways, that deflection carries no weight in this debate.
JDHillFan Posted February 8 Author Posted February 8 5 minutes ago, daz28 said: I showed you that there was widespread support for Nazi's, and there was. It's not my fault you have no historical understanding of the 'America First' movement. Try reading more. Anyways, that deflection carries no weight in this debate. On 5/23/2024 at 1:13 PM, daz28 said: You may not be aware of what the history of America first was, but it was a group of 1 million American Nazis, that were mimicking Hitler's Germany first platform. When making an absurd claim, you should be able to back it up with data. The 1 million American nazis claim was utter horsesh*t. You couldn’t back it up then and can’t now. That’s on you. The “you may not be aware” bit really adds authority though. Today’s claim is Musk ROBBED the government. Your proof is “just google Tesla global warming”. Really fine work that you do.
daz28 Posted February 8 Posted February 8 12 minutes ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said: By grifting you mean enjoying the same benefits that were given to GM? Benefit is a good word to use for that comparison. Who benefitted? Let's take this a step further. I remember when the EV haters claim was that the "grid can't handle EV's". Well, that didn't stop the global warming grift from going an even further unrealistic step did it: To help solve the issue, Tesla will be eligible for government subsidies to manufacture charging stations that can charge both NACS and CCS vehicles. The White House has yet to confirm the specifics of spending the $7.5 billion in Bipartisan Infrastructure Law money allocated to EV charging investment Just now, JDHillFan said: When making an absurd claim, you should be able to back it up with data. The 1 million American nazis claim was utter horsesh*t. You couldn’t back it up then and can’t now. That’s on you. The “you may not be aware” bit really adds authority though. Today’s claim is Musk ROBBED the government. Your proof is “just google Tesla global warming”. Really fine work that you do. I claimed supporters, and lying about things is utter HS. Right now 1 million people are cold, but can I prove it??? No, but it's as real as Nazi support was in the 30's here in America. Seeing you've forgotten some evidence I gave you then, here it is again: The America First Committee (AFC) was an American isolationist pressure group against the United States' entry into World War II.[1][2] Launched in September 1940, it surpassed 800,000 members in 450 chapters at its peak.[3] The AFC principally supported isolationism for its own sake, and its varied coalition included Republicans, Democrats, farmers, industrialists, communists, anti-communists, students, and journalists – however, it was controversial for the anti-Semitic and pro-fascist views of some of its most prominent speakers, leaders, and members.[4][5][6][7] The AFC was dissolved on December 11, 1941, four days after the attack on Pearl Harbor brought the United States into the war. The AFC argued that no foreign power could successfully attack a strongly defended United States, that a British defeat by Nazi Germany would not imperil American national security, and that giving military aid to Britain would risk dragging the United States into the war. The group fervently opposed measures for the British advanced by President Franklin D. Roosevelt such as the destroyers-for-bases deal and the Lend-Lease bill, but failed in its efforts to block them. No deflection is a bad deflection, though.
JDHillFan Posted February 8 Author Posted February 8 6 minutes ago, daz28 said: I claimed supporters, and lying about things is utter HS. Right now 1 million people are cold, but can I prove it??? No, but it's as real as Nazi support was in the 30's here in America. I quoted your post. Look up two posts from here. Here it is again. YOUR WORDS! On 5/23/2024 at 1:13 PM, daz28 said: 7 minutes ago, JDHillFan said: You may not be aware of what the history of America first was, but it was a group of 1 million American Nazis Just pure dumbassery on your part that you delivered with an air of authority. Sad. You may notice that your Wikipedia cut and paste says absolutely nothing about 1M American nazis. Just pathetic. The subsidy for Tesla to building chargers was part of Biden’s infrastructure bill. Are you saying it’s ROBBERY?
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