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4 hours ago, BillsFanNC said:

 

They better be annually, and not 'over a 10 year period', because that would be a useless band-aid. 

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6 minutes ago, daz28 said:

They better be annually, and not 'over a 10 year period', because that would be a useless band-aid. 

 

Your's is a ridiculous suggestion, and it is not a useless band-aid.

Cutting 2-3 trillion in an annual US budget is preposterous.

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Just now, sherpa said:

 

Your's is a ridiculous suggestion, and it is not a useless band-aid.

Cutting 2-3 trillion in an annual US budget is preoposterous.

Just going off what Elon said.  I know he's walked it back, but $2-3 trillion over 10 years will do next to nothing.  

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Just now, daz28 said:

Just going off what Elon said.  I know he's walked it back, but $2-3 trillion over 10 years will do next to nothing.  

 

It isn't nothing.

What is ridiculous is stating that it should be done in one year, which would be 25-35% of the entire US budget.

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Just now, sherpa said:

 

It isn't nothing.

What is ridiculous is stating that it should be done in one year, which would be 25-35% of the entire US budget.

So Elon, the guy who was set to be in charge of DOGE, started right off the bat with a ridiculous statement?  All I'm asking for is something that will actually have some effect.  

Posted
8 minutes ago, daz28 said:

Just going off what Elon said. 

Can you refresh us on what he said that has you almost quoting him but actually saying nothing?

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3 minutes ago, daz28 said:

So Elon, the guy who was set to be in charge of DOGE, started right off the bat with a ridiculous statement?  All I'm asking for is something that will actually have some effect.  

 

Well, cutting 25-30% of the annual budget would certainly have an effect, a fatal effect.

Let's see what happens.

Either way, we are in way better hands than we were, and these are serious, successful people who have actually done things other than wasted money, over and over and over again.

 

 

 

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4 minutes ago, sherpa said:

 

Well, cutting 25-30% of the annual budget would certainly have an effect, a fatal effect.

Let's see what happens.

Either way, we are in way better hands than we were, and these are serious, successful people who have actually done things other than wasted money, over and over and over again.

 

 

 

We shall see.  Right now it looks like there's only a handful of reps in the House who are dead serious about spending, and that's because the whole political machine is run on taking our taxes, and redistributing them to donors/lobbyists.  If Congress was dead set on fixing this, they'd start by going after those 2 main problems first, rather than thinking a sharp pair of scissors will do the job. 

8 minutes ago, JDHillFan said:

Can you refresh us on what he said that has you almost quoting him but actually saying nothing?

Musk has said DOGE could cut “at least $2 trillion” from the $6.75 trillion federal budget.

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3 minutes ago, daz28 said:

We shall see.  Right now it looks like there's only a handful of reps in the House who are dead serious about spending, and that's because the whole political machine is run on taking our taxes, and redistributing them to donors/lobbyists.  If Congress was dead set on fixing this, they'd start by going after those 2 main problems first, rather than thinking a sharp pair of scissors will do the job. 

 

 

If the people of the US were serious about this they'd quit electing people with this mindset to this Congress.

They're not, and they don't, because as long as they can kick the can down the road, and finance at US Treasury rates, it doesn't effect anything.

Until it does.

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2 minutes ago, sherpa said:

 

If the people of the US were serious about this they'd quit electing people with this mindset to this Congress.

They're not, and they don't, because as long as they can kick the can down the road, and finance at US Treasury rates, it doesn't effect anything.

Until it does.

It's all the noise from the surrounding partisan politics that are clouding what is probably the greatest existential crisis to our country outside the Civil War.  Imagine worrying about who Joe Biden is sniffing or what trump poop tweeted at 2am before worrying that the ship is literally at the point where saving it is impossible.  

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31 minutes ago, sherpa said:

 

If the people of the US were serious about this they'd quit electing people with this mindset to this Congress.

They're not, and they don't, because as long as they can kick the can down the road, and finance at US Treasury rates, it doesn't effect anything.

Until it does.

 

Imagine how much better off we'd be as a society if the basics of finance were required to be taught in middle and HS.  So many people are absolutely clueless which makes it real easy for politicians to say stuff that sounds good but has no basis in reality whatsoever.

 

And people really need to understand that every $ government spends is a tax.  It's either paid today via direct (and indirect) tax payments or tomorrow via debt.  But either way, it eventually ends up due to be paid and it is all a tax.

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23 minutes ago, Taro T said:

 

Imagine how much better off we'd be as a society if the basics of finance were required to be taught in middle and HS.  So many people are absolutely clueless which makes it real easy for politicians to say stuff that sounds good but has no basis in reality whatsoever.

 

And people really need to understand that every $ government spends is a tax.  It's either paid today via direct (and indirect) tax payments or tomorrow via debt.  But either way, it eventually ends up due to be paid and it is all a tax.

If they taught finance in high school, there is no way these people would still be in power, Republicans included. You are taught in hs and college how to be a good, obedient worker, not a free thinker.

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Posted
2 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

FINALLY.

 

Joni Ernst Introduces Bill to Reduce Wasteful Food Stamp Spending

Amy Curtis

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It's time to cut the government fat.

Joni Ernst, DOGE Chair, has just introduced legislation that will address wasteful administrative spending in food stamp programs, a move that could save $91 billion over the next ten years.

 

 

 

We're $36 trillion in debt and that number climbs by $1 trillion every 100 days. Reform is needed.

 

This bill doesn't cut food stamps, it addresses administrative waste.

 

 

https://twitchy.com/amy-curtis/2025/01/29/joni-ernst-to-take-on-administrative-waste-in-food-stamp-program-n2407541

 

I have no problem with this. It is being done the normal way: through legislation, not dictatorial fiat.

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Thought the left wanted Americans education cost wiped out.  

 

Now they are crying about federal money directly to non payback education grants based on everything but merit.  

 

If anything the left loves to step on it's own di"k non stop.  

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