daz28 Posted January 24 Posted January 24 On 1/24/2025 at 2:54 PM, BillsFanNC said: Expand They better be annually, and not 'over a 10 year period', because that would be a useless band-aid.
sherpa Posted January 24 Posted January 24 (edited) On 1/24/2025 at 7:01 PM, daz28 said: They better be annually, and not 'over a 10 year period', because that would be a useless band-aid. Expand Your's is a ridiculous suggestion, and it is not a useless band-aid. Cutting 2-3 trillion in an annual US budget is preposterous. Edited January 24 by sherpa
daz28 Posted January 24 Posted January 24 On 1/24/2025 at 7:06 PM, sherpa said: Your's is a ridiculous suggestion, and it is not a useless band-aid. Cutting 2-3 trillion in an annual US budget is preoposterous. Expand Just going off what Elon said. I know he's walked it back, but $2-3 trillion over 10 years will do next to nothing.
sherpa Posted January 24 Posted January 24 On 1/24/2025 at 7:08 PM, daz28 said: Just going off what Elon said. I know he's walked it back, but $2-3 trillion over 10 years will do next to nothing. Expand It isn't nothing. What is ridiculous is stating that it should be done in one year, which would be 25-35% of the entire US budget.
daz28 Posted January 24 Posted January 24 On 1/24/2025 at 7:09 PM, sherpa said: It isn't nothing. What is ridiculous is stating that it should be done in one year, which would be 25-35% of the entire US budget. Expand So Elon, the guy who was set to be in charge of DOGE, started right off the bat with a ridiculous statement? All I'm asking for is something that will actually have some effect.
JDHillFan Posted January 24 Author Posted January 24 On 1/24/2025 at 7:08 PM, daz28 said: Just going off what Elon said. Expand Can you refresh us on what he said that has you almost quoting him but actually saying nothing?
sherpa Posted January 24 Posted January 24 On 1/24/2025 at 7:11 PM, daz28 said: So Elon, the guy who was set to be in charge of DOGE, started right off the bat with a ridiculous statement? All I'm asking for is something that will actually have some effect. Expand Well, cutting 25-30% of the annual budget would certainly have an effect, a fatal effect. Let's see what happens. Either way, we are in way better hands than we were, and these are serious, successful people who have actually done things other than wasted money, over and over and over again.
daz28 Posted January 24 Posted January 24 On 1/24/2025 at 7:18 PM, sherpa said: Well, cutting 25-30% of the annual budget would certainly have an effect, a fatal effect. Let's see what happens. Either way, we are in way better hands than we were, and these are serious, successful people who have actually done things other than wasted money, over and over and over again. Expand We shall see. Right now it looks like there's only a handful of reps in the House who are dead serious about spending, and that's because the whole political machine is run on taking our taxes, and redistributing them to donors/lobbyists. If Congress was dead set on fixing this, they'd start by going after those 2 main problems first, rather than thinking a sharp pair of scissors will do the job. On 1/24/2025 at 7:18 PM, JDHillFan said: Can you refresh us on what he said that has you almost quoting him but actually saying nothing? Expand Musk has said DOGE could cut “at least $2 trillion” from the $6.75 trillion federal budget.
sherpa Posted January 24 Posted January 24 On 1/24/2025 at 7:24 PM, daz28 said: We shall see. Right now it looks like there's only a handful of reps in the House who are dead serious about spending, and that's because the whole political machine is run on taking our taxes, and redistributing them to donors/lobbyists. If Congress was dead set on fixing this, they'd start by going after those 2 main problems first, rather than thinking a sharp pair of scissors will do the job. Expand If the people of the US were serious about this they'd quit electing people with this mindset to this Congress. They're not, and they don't, because as long as they can kick the can down the road, and finance at US Treasury rates, it doesn't effect anything. Until it does. 1
daz28 Posted January 24 Posted January 24 On 1/24/2025 at 7:31 PM, sherpa said: If the people of the US were serious about this they'd quit electing people with this mindset to this Congress. They're not, and they don't, because as long as they can kick the can down the road, and finance at US Treasury rates, it doesn't effect anything. Until it does. Expand It's all the noise from the surrounding partisan politics that are clouding what is probably the greatest existential crisis to our country outside the Civil War. Imagine worrying about who Joe Biden is sniffing or what trump poop tweeted at 2am before worrying that the ship is literally at the point where saving it is impossible.
Taro T Posted January 24 Posted January 24 On 1/24/2025 at 7:31 PM, sherpa said: If the people of the US were serious about this they'd quit electing people with this mindset to this Congress. They're not, and they don't, because as long as they can kick the can down the road, and finance at US Treasury rates, it doesn't effect anything. Until it does. Expand Imagine how much better off we'd be as a society if the basics of finance were required to be taught in middle and HS. So many people are absolutely clueless which makes it real easy for politicians to say stuff that sounds good but has no basis in reality whatsoever. And people really need to understand that every $ government spends is a tax. It's either paid today via direct (and indirect) tax payments or tomorrow via debt. But either way, it eventually ends up due to be paid and it is all a tax. 3
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted January 24 Posted January 24 On 1/24/2025 at 8:07 PM, Taro T said: Imagine how much better off we'd be as a society if the basics of finance were required to be taught in middle and HS. So many people are absolutely clueless which makes it real easy for politicians to say stuff that sounds good but has no basis in reality whatsoever. And people really need to understand that every $ government spends is a tax. It's either paid today via direct (and indirect) tax payments or tomorrow via debt. But either way, it eventually ends up due to be paid and it is all a tax. Expand If they taught finance in high school, there is no way these people would still be in power, Republicans included. You are taught in hs and college how to be a good, obedient worker, not a free thinker. 1 1 1
The Frankish Reich Posted January 29 Posted January 29 On 1/29/2025 at 10:38 PM, B-Man said: FINALLY. Joni Ernst Introduces Bill to Reduce Wasteful Food Stamp Spending Amy Curtis It's time to cut the government fat. Joni Ernst, DOGE Chair, has just introduced legislation that will address wasteful administrative spending in food stamp programs, a move that could save $91 billion over the next ten years. We're $36 trillion in debt and that number climbs by $1 trillion every 100 days. Reform is needed. This bill doesn't cut food stamps, it addresses administrative waste. https://twitchy.com/amy-curtis/2025/01/29/joni-ernst-to-take-on-administrative-waste-in-food-stamp-program-n2407541 Expand I have no problem with this. It is being done the normal way: through legislation, not dictatorial fiat.
Roundybout Posted January 30 Posted January 30 (edited) Great stuff fellas, keep hammering down that American soft power. Edited January 30 by Roundybout 1
Tommy Callahan Posted January 30 Posted January 30 Thought the left wanted Americans education cost wiped out. Now they are crying about federal money directly to non payback education grants based on everything but merit. If anything the left loves to step on it's own di"k non stop.
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