DOGE

[B-Man]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[B-Man]

 

 

Update for those who missed it two pages back.

 

 

 

 

 

[daz28]

41 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

Update for those who missed it two pages back.

 

 

 

 

 

It didn't get passed.  It was part of the pork the GQP removed.  You guys live in an extremely strange alter reality.  You're going to find out that the 'pork' cut from the bill was almost nonexistent.  Johnson removed all the procedural pages from the bill to make it "look smaller".  LOL  Source: all the republicans who voted against it, including Nancy Mace.  

[B-Man]

40 minutes ago, daz28 said:

It didn't get passed.  It was part of the pork the GQP removed.  You guys live in an extremely strange alter reality.  You're going to find out that the 'pork' cut from the bill was almost nonexistent.  Johnson removed all the procedural pages from the bill to make it "look smaller".  LOL  Source: all the republicans who voted against it, including Nancy Mace.  

 

 

Learn to read.

 

It was passed before, back in the spring.

 

The stand alone passed bill then went to the senate where Chuck killed it.

 

It was brought back now to be used as blackmail.

 

Low information posters, like yourself, then just open up and swallow the democrat propaganda.

 

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[daz28]

1 hour ago, B-Man said:

 

 

Learn to read.

 

It was passed before, back in the spring.

 

The stand alone passed bill then went to the senate where Chuck killed it.

 

It was brought back now to be used as blackmail.

 

Low information posters, like yourself, then just open up and swallow the democrat propaganda.

 

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That was then this is now.  So you're saying they blackmailed it back into this bill, or that they blackmailed it back out of the bill?  As I recall the democrats were all set to pass it in the bill earlier this week, but somehow it got cut out in todays.  You're telling me the tax and spend democrats are the ones who insisted this be cut from this one today??  That's a low intelligence poster if you think that's what happened, and it makes zero sense at all.  

[Joe Ferguson forever]

15 hours ago, reddogblitz said:

 

Far left billionaires (Soros) are great.  It's only right wing billionaires (Musk) that are a problem...

Way to miss the point:  the more things change, the more things stay the same.

[B-Man]

 

 

NOT "the same"

 

 

House Passes Spending Bill, Better Than the Original

By John Hinderaker

 

It could have been much, much worse. The “continuing resolution” that Speaker Mike Johnson initially came up with, I take it as a result of negotiation with Senate Democrats and others, was a 1,500-page monstrosity that didn’t just continue existing spending until the next Congress can meet. Rather, it added many billions in new spending along with a plethora of other offensive provisions.

 

That Frankenstein bill likely would have gone through, but for Elon Musk and Vivek Ramasawamy, who, even though their DOGE does not yet exist, exposed what was in the bill and mobilized conservative opposition against it. It went down in flames.

 

Next, Johnson tried a “clean” CR, but that didn’t pass because Democrats, and a handful of Republicans, wanted more political goodies in the bill.

 

Now a spending bill has passed the House, and it is a lot closer to a “clean” CR than to the original monstrosity

 

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2024/12/house-passes-spending-bill-better-than-the-original.php

 

 

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[B-Man]

9 hours ago, daz28 said:

 

 

 

It was There All Along: Senate Passes Child Cancer Research Bill The House Sent Them in March

 

FTA:

 

It was a little anti-climactic when we learned that the deadline never really mattered. Midnight is way past Joe Biden's bedtime, and the bill would have to wait until Saturday morning to be signed into law.

 

In one of the most interesting plot twists, Democrats angrily scolded Republicans for heartlessly cutting funds for childhood cancer research out of the CR at the direction of the evil Elon Musk. They claimed Musk, the villainous MAGA mastermind, intended to let children die in order to give his billionaire friends a tax cut. They took to the airwaves to expose his dastardly plan.

 

As it turns out, it's not Republicans who have been denying child cancer research funds. The House passed the funding in a stand-alone bill in March. The bill was sent to the Senate, but Majority Leader Chuck Schumer buried it.

 

You'd think Jeffries would know that; he was there, after all. He would never knowingly lie. Would he?

 

Of course, he would. As the saying goes, you never let the truth get in the way of a good story. In fact, if you watch the interview closely, you can tell he's lying. His lips are moving.

 

 

Well, something miraculous happened last night. Schumer brought the child cancer research bill to the Senate floor for a vote.

He had been sitting on that bill since March. What changed? Did his small heart grow three sizes yesterday? 

 

 

We doubt the timing of the bill's vote last night had anything to do with Schumer's heart. If we were to speculate on Schumer's motivation, we'd see two possible reasons Chuckie would do this now.

 

It may have been the plan all along. Have Warren, Jefferies, and other Democrats blame Republicans for killing the funds and then take credit for passing them and saving the children. Setting Democrats up with a nice hero arc.

 

Or, and probably more likely, after Warren and Jefferies were publicly called out for lying about the funds, Schumer pushed them through to put the issue to bed. Simply doing a little political damage control.

 

https://twitchy.com/eric-v/2024/12/21/it-was-there-all-along-senate-passes-child-cancer-research-bill-house-sent-them-in-march-n2405534

[reddogblitz]

6 hours ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

Way to miss the point:  the more things change, the more things stay the same.

 

I don't know. I think you maybe missed my point. That being billionaires making decisions as opposed to voters is a bad thing. Do you agree?

[Joe Ferguson forever]

19 hours ago, reddogblitz said:

 

I don't know. I think you maybe missed my point. That being billionaires making decisions as opposed to voters is a bad thing. Do you agree?

oligarchy=bad.  agree

[Doc]

1 hour ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

oligarchy=bad.  agree

 

You mean when it's a Repub, right?  Because you all didn't care when the Dems did it.

[ChiGoose]

Are we all still cheering on a government contractor being put in charge of where government money goes and pretending to be populists?

 

Funny how one of the provisions that Musk got kicked was tighter controls about US investment in China. But we’re all still anti-China, right?

[reddogblitz]

I think Musk's motivation on this is to sell the USA more rockets.

[daz28]

On 12/21/2024 at 11:36 AM, B-Man said:

 

 

It was There All Along: Senate Passes Child Cancer Research Bill The House Sent Them in March

 

FTA:

 

It was a little anti-climactic when we learned that the deadline never really mattered. Midnight is way past Joe Biden's bedtime, and the bill would have to wait until Saturday morning to be signed into law.

 

In one of the most interesting plot twists, Democrats angrily scolded Republicans for heartlessly cutting funds for childhood cancer research out of the CR at the direction of the evil Elon Musk. They claimed Musk, the villainous MAGA mastermind, intended to let children die in order to give his billionaire friends a tax cut. They took to the airwaves to expose his dastardly plan.

 

As it turns out, it's not Republicans who have been denying child cancer research funds. The House passed the funding in a stand-alone bill in March. The bill was sent to the Senate, but Majority Leader Chuck Schumer buried it.

 

You'd think Jeffries would know that; he was there, after all. He would never knowingly lie. Would he?

 

Of course, he would. As the saying goes, you never let the truth get in the way of a good story. In fact, if you watch the interview closely, you can tell he's lying. His lips are moving.

 

 

Well, something miraculous happened last night. Schumer brought the child cancer research bill to the Senate floor for a vote.

He had been sitting on that bill since March. What changed? Did his small heart grow three sizes yesterday? 

 

 

We doubt the timing of the bill's vote last night had anything to do with Schumer's heart. If we were to speculate on Schumer's motivation, we'd see two possible reasons Chuckie would do this now.

 

It may have been the plan all along. Have Warren, Jefferies, and other Democrats blame Republicans for killing the funds and then take credit for passing them and saving the children. Setting Democrats up with a nice hero arc.

 

Or, and probably more likely, after Warren and Jefferies were publicly called out for lying about the funds, Schumer pushed them through to put the issue to bed. Simply doing a little political damage control.

 

https://twitchy.com/eric-v/2024/12/21/it-was-there-all-along-senate-passes-child-cancer-research-bill-house-sent-them-in-march-n2405534

Mike Johson held the pen that struck the cancer funding from the CR that passed.  Was it a shrewd political move by Chuck to put it on the floor now?  Yes.  Was it a bad move for MJ to scratch it from the CR? Also, yes.  Nancy Mace has been on Fox news now TWICE stating that the "trimmed down" bill had the same spending as the original, minus the procedural pages.  I'm just giving you facts, even though I know you have no intention of consuming them. 

 

I did a little research on the research funding myself, and the bill that Johnson sent back in spring funded it for 7 more years.  Apparently, this is a continuation, and from my experience with bureaucracy and funding, it's much wiser to reconsider it every single year.  I'm not aware if the text in the CR version was also 7 years, but if it were only 1 year, then Chuck did a masterful job of ensuring that if the research wasn't going well, then the funds would be guaranteed wasted money.  

Edited yesterday at 09:00 AM by daz28