Joe Ferguson forever Posted Thursday at 03:42 PM Posted Thursday at 03:42 PM 10 minutes ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said: You're not worth the effort. Sad little man. Sad is when you're unhappy with your lot and want radical change. Happy is when you're content and want to conserve the system.
B-Man Posted Thursday at 06:56 PM Posted Thursday at 06:56 PM Back to the thread. . . . . . . . . . and reality DOGE Showdown By John Hindraker GOP House leadership negotiated what appears to be a lousy continuing resolution with the Democrats. It is 1,500 pages long and dropped with barely enough time for legislators to review it, which should alone be reason to vote No. What is the worst that could happen? A “government shutdown,” in which the government unfortunately does not shut down. I would welcome that outcome. Enter DOGE, in the form of Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy. Musk has urged Congressmen to vote No, and said on Twitter that anyone who votes for this resolution should not be re-elected in 2026. Ramaswamy read the bill in its entirety and posted this–in my opinion–highly intelligent commentary: The continuing resolution increases spending rather than continuing existing spending, and includes numerous policy provisions that should be left to the next Congress. It looks to me as if Musk and Ramaswamy are bringing a long-needed seriousness to the GOP’s alleged effort to cut spending. https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2024/12/doge-showdown.php 1 1
JaCrispy Posted Friday at 01:38 AM Posted Friday at 01:38 AM (edited) 4 hours ago, BillsFanNC said: What is the good deal Trump is saying Johnson came up with? Is it the original Establishment CR bill, or have things been changed? Sorry if already mentioned, but I’ve been working all day…👍 I just don’t trust Mike Johnson… Edited Friday at 01:40 AM by JaCrispy 1
daz28 Posted Friday at 04:12 AM Posted Friday at 04:12 AM (edited) 2 hours ago, JaCrispy said: What is the good deal Trump is saying Johnson came up with? Is it the original Establishment CR bill, or have things been changed? Sorry if already mentioned, but I’ve been working all day…👍 I just don’t trust Mike Johnson… It's pretty much the same bill, but now it contains a provision to remove the debt ceiling for trumps first 2 years. Rand Paul said like 20-30 reps are against no debt ceiling(unlimited spending), and I can't see one single democrat handing them a 'yay' vote for no concessions at all, especially considering they had already agreed before. Could be DOA, and a big bungle. Not really Johnsons fault. trump and Elon basically threw the red challenge flag right before the snap. Just watched Nancy Mace on Fox. She said this CR cost exactly the same as yesterdays, and they pulled 1000 procedural pages out to make it look 'smaller'. You can't make this stuff up. Edited Friday at 04:33 AM by daz28
JaCrispy Posted Friday at 11:39 AM Posted Friday at 11:39 AM 20 hours ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: good analysis https://www.cnn.com/2024/12/19/politics/trump-musk-capitol-chaos-analysis/index.html The sabotaging of Johnson’s funding initiative triggered shock and confusion on Capitol Hill. But for many of Trump’s supporters and boosters in the conservative media who are anticipating massive cuts to federal programs, the mayhem is the point. Even if the impasse leads to a damaging government shutdown, that may represent progress for some since the government itself is viewed with disdain on the populist right. And by taking aim at the Washington status quo even before he takes the oath of office, Trump is doing exactly what he said he’d do on the campaign trail. But the sudden imbroglio also highlighted one of the key issues facing Trump in his second term: If he wants to pass his tax cuts, push through his immigration overhauls, defend the country and leave a meaningful legacy, he will have to find some way to govern – even if that draws him into conflict with base voters and MAGA ideologues who seem happy to burn government to the ground. The mayhem is not the point…And the threat of a government shutdown that is catastrophic is Fake News to scare people…If you weren’t born yesterday, you know this to be true…The politicians, and their allies in the media, use this tactic only because their donors want “their” money…So don’t be fooled… We are tired of fake politicians spending this country into oblivion, only to line their own pockets… We support Trump…But if he doesn’t do what he promised, we will check him… This is what the Left doesn’t understand about MAGA…It’s not about one man…Trump can preach MAGA until he is blue in the face…But he will also be held accountable by all of us too… This is what his America First advisors are for…This is what DOGE is for- to keep Trump on track, and avoiding the pitfalls of the Establishment…👍 1
Tiberius Posted Friday at 12:10 PM Posted Friday at 12:10 PM 29 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: We are tired of fake politicians spending this country into oblivion, only to line their own pockets… And yet these Republicans, with Trump's support, trying to extend the debt limit? How screwed up is that? Same old, same old. Nothing different 1 1
Coffeesforclosers Posted Friday at 02:02 PM Posted Friday at 02:02 PM 2 hours ago, JaCrispy said: The mayhem is not the point…And the threat of a government shutdown that is catastrophic is Fake News to scare people…If you weren’t born yesterday, you know this to be true…The politicians, and their allies in the media, use this tactic only because their donors want “their” money…So don’t be fooled… We are tired of fake politicians spending this country into oblivion, only to line their own pockets… We support Trump…But if he doesn’t do what he promised, we will check him… This is what the Left doesn’t understand about MAGA…It’s not about one man…Trump can preach MAGA until he is blue in the face…But he will also be held accountable by all of us too… This is what his America First advisors are for…This is what DOGE is for- to keep Trump on track, and avoiding the pitfalls of the Establishment…👍 Hahahahahah what? Are you serious? Where is this Mr. Smith Goes to Washington BS coming from? Trump just let a foreign billionaire who holds no office take a ***** all over the separation of powers and your response is... whatever this is? 1
JaCrispy Posted Friday at 02:18 PM Posted Friday at 02:18 PM (edited) 19 minutes ago, Coffeesforclosers said: Hahahahahah what? Are you serious? Where is this Mr. Smith Goes to Washington BS coming from? Trump just let a foreign billionaire who holds no office take a ***** all over the separation of powers and your response is... whatever this is? My response is I don’t care if he is a billionaire or a person with $5 in his pocket, as long as he is trying help make the government run more efficiently for the American people…and you should hope the same thing, if you’re not simply a partisan 👍 2 hours ago, Tiberius said: And yet these Republicans, with Trump's support, trying to extend the debt limit? How screwed up is that? Same old, same old. Nothing different What do think MAGA is upset about?We can’t stand the Establishment Republicans- who are wolves in sheep’s clothing 👍 2 hours ago, Tiberius said: And yet these Republicans, with Trump's support, trying to extend the debt limit? How screwed up is that? Same old, same old. Nothing different What do think MAGA is upset about?We can’t stand the Establishment Republicans- who are wolves in sheep’s clothing 👍 You want, so badly, to attack us, when in actuality, there is probably much we agree on, if partisanship is just put to the side on the issues… Edited Friday at 02:23 PM by JaCrispy 1
Tiberius Posted Friday at 02:53 PM Posted Friday at 02:53 PM 33 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: My response is I don’t care if he is a billionaire or a person with $5 in his pocket, as long as he is trying help make the government run more efficiently for the American people…and you should hope the same thing, if you’re not simply a partisan 👍 What do think MAGA is upset about?We can’t stand the Establishment Republicans- who are wolves in sheep’s clothing 👍 What do think MAGA is upset about?We can’t stand the Establishment Republicans- who are wolves in sheep’s clothing 👍 You want, so badly, to attack us, when in actuality, there is probably much we agree on, if partisanship is just put to the side on the issues… I know, but it would be easier to support something that makes sense. They want to cut spending yet Trump is calling for a debt limit increase? Heck, he wants to abolish ANY limits to borrow! Wow, don’t remember him campaigning for that 1 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted Friday at 03:05 PM Posted Friday at 03:05 PM 2 hours ago, Tiberius said: And yet these Republicans, with Trump's support, trying to extend the debt limit? How screwed up is that? Same old, same old. Nothing different yes, draining the swamp!!! Apparently, Musk is in agreement. raising the debt ceiling is not gov't efficiency and the debt is not a psychological issue as trump claims. Our huge interest payments are proof enough.
Joe Ferguson forever Posted Friday at 03:25 PM Posted Friday at 03:25 PM (edited) 3 hours ago, JaCrispy said: The mayhem is not the point…And the threat of a government shutdown that is catastrophic is Fake News to scare people…If you weren’t born yesterday, you know this to be true…The politicians, and their allies in the media, use this tactic only because their donors want “their” money…So don’t be fooled… We are tired of fake politicians spending this country into oblivion, only to line their own pockets… We support Trump…But if he doesn’t do what he promised, we will check him… This is what the Left doesn’t understand about MAGA…It’s not about one man…Trump can preach MAGA until he is blue in the face…But he will also be held accountable by all of us too… This is what his America First advisors are for…This is what DOGE is for- to keep Trump on track, and avoiding the pitfalls of the Establishment…👍 and you're calling me naive? trump has a strangle hold on the R party. Almost all other R leaders have bent a knee. Those that haven't were primaried or retired. Yet you think you ar going to hold him to account. Forgive me while I chuckle about you showing him the light should he go astray. In that instance you can take solace in the fact that he's 78, obese and deconditioned. I do. Edited Friday at 03:27 PM by Joe Ferguson forever
JaCrispy Posted Friday at 03:27 PM Posted Friday at 03:27 PM (edited) 51 minutes ago, Tiberius said: I know, but it would be easier to support something that makes sense. They want to cut spending yet Trump is calling for a debt limit increase? Heck, he wants to abolish ANY limits to borrow! Wow, don’t remember him campaigning for that I agree…Let’s just wait and see what happens…then when a bill is completed we can pick it apart 👍 19 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: and you're calling me naive? trump has a strangle hold on the R party. Almost all other R leaders have bent a knee. Those that haven't were primaried or retired. Yet you think you ar going to hold him to account. Forgive me while I chuckle about you showing him the light should he go astray. In that instance you can take solace in the fact that he's 78, obese and deconditioned. I do. Because it’s what the voters wanted…people wanted change and knew Kamala definitely would not bring that… At least with Trump there is a chance 👍 Edited Friday at 03:45 PM by JaCrispy
Biden is Mentally Fit Posted Friday at 03:29 PM Author Posted Friday at 03:29 PM 2 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: In that instance you can take solace in the fact that he's 78, obese and deconditioned. I do. You shouldn’t take too much solace as your ability to assess general health, especially for a “doctor”, is…not good. You were unable to detect any decline in Joe Biden after all. Good heavens! 🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻 1 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted Friday at 03:40 PM Posted Friday at 03:40 PM 7 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: Let’s just wait and see what happens…then when a bill is completed we can pick it apart 👍 Because it’s what the voters wanted…people wanted change knew Kamala definitely would not bring that… At least with Trump there is a chance say what? what did they want? you seem to be saying "anything but the "establishment". that's a pretty low bar. Think of the historical figures who accomplished overturning the establishment: Lenin, Mao, Castro, Hitler, Mussolini etc. Be careful what you ask for. Your confidence in reigning in trump is misplaced.
JaCrispy Posted Friday at 03:50 PM Posted Friday at 03:50 PM (edited) 11 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: say what? what did they want? you seem to be saying "anything but the "establishment". that's a pretty low bar. Think of the historical figures who accomplished overturning the establishment: Lenin, Mao, Castro, Hitler, Mussolini etc. Be careful what you ask for. Your confidence in reigning in trump is misplaced. I don’t have confidence in Trump- just hope…but it’s all about what is done, and how…👍 I had zero hope with Kamala.. Edited Friday at 03:52 PM by JaCrispy 3
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