Attack of the Mack....Hollins

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Yeah, I know virtually nobody was excited to sign this guy. 

 

I just thought this stat of his was neat: he has 16 receptions on the year. Three of those went for touchdowns. The other 13? All first downs. That's neat. 

[Prospector]

Return of the Mack

 

Mack the Knife is back in town carving up the defenses

[Dablitzkrieg]

Neat

[Rocky Landing]

@FireChans is furious!

[FireChans]

  On 11/12/2024 at 5:52 PM, Rocky Landing said:

@FireChans is furious!

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No. I just don’t think it’s a coincidence that when Mack is more involved, Josh has pretty bad stat lines.

 

Mack’s great game and Josh’s 66 passer rating seem inherently linked imo. Just like when Mack got a team leading 6 targets vs Houston and Josh completed 9 passes. Or when Mack was second on the team in targets vs Baltimore and Josh had a 73.9 passer rating and we lost by 25.
 

I want Mack to be Hines Ward. I don’t think he is.

[Sweats]

  On 11/12/2024 at 5:13 PM, Prospector said:

Return of the Mack

 

Mack the Knife is back in town carving up the defenses

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I used to party with Mack the Knife back in the day.......that dude was bizarre, man.

[Don Otreply]

Fuh king A neat!!!

 

I’ll tip one back for Mack “ shoeless joe “ Hollins! 
 

He’s been doing a pretty damn good job thus far, nothing to get all whiny about, and that’s a serious plus, 

[DrDawkinstein]

I owe Mack a small apology. I thought he was just going to be another Trent Sherfield, and we were going to be in serious trouble if he got any real playing time, but he's been much better than that when called upon.

[Don Otreply]

  On 11/12/2024 at 5:58 PM, FireChans said:

No. I just don’t think it’s a coincidence that when Mack is more involved, Josh has pretty bad stat lines.

 

Mack’s great game and Josh’s 66 passer rating seem inherently linked imo. Just like when Mack got a team leading 6 targets vs Houston and Josh completed 9 passes. Or when Mack was second on the team in targets vs Baltimore and Josh had a 73.9 passer rating and we lost by 25.
 

I want Mack to be Hines Ward. I don’t think he is.

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You need to be looking at the other pass catchers that aren’t getting open, can’t blame the guy who’s catching his targets. Coincidence and causality…, 

[DrDawkinstein]

  On 11/12/2024 at 6:06 PM, Don Otreply said:

You need to be looking at the other pass catchers that aren’t getting open, can’t blame the guy who’s catching his targets. Coincidence and causality…, 

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Exactly. I think it's more that "If Mack is getting so involved, we have other problems to deal with".

 

Mack doesnt cause Josh's lower passer rating. Whatever is bringing down Josh is also causing more targets to Mack. Which I assume would be the other team's game plan.

[Rocky Landing]

  On 11/12/2024 at 5:58 PM, FireChans said:

No. I just don’t think it’s a coincidence that when Mack is more involved, Josh has pretty bad stat lines.

 

Mack’s great game and Josh’s 66 passer rating seem inherently linked imo. Just like when Mack got a team leading 6 targets vs Houston and Josh completed 9 passes. Or when Mack was second on the team in targets vs Baltimore and Josh had a 73.9 passer rating and we lost by 25.
 

I want Mack to be Hines Ward. I don’t think he is.

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Come on, now. Shakir had his worst game of the season, and Samuel was 4/8 for 35 yards. At 4/4 for 86 yards, and four first downs, Hollins was the best WR on the field on Sunday. Pretty hard to fault him for Allen's poor stats in that game. At this point, Hollins would have to walk on water while catching  pass for you to give hime the props he deserves.

[Prospector]

  On 11/12/2024 at 6:00 PM, Sweats said:

 

 

 

I used to party with Mack the Knife back in the day.......that dude was bizarre, man.

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He always seemed to have money though

[Rocky Landing]

  On 11/12/2024 at 6:11 PM, DrDawkinstein said:

 

Exactly. I think it's more that "If Mack is getting so involved, we have other problems to deal with".

 

Mack doesnt cause Josh's lower passer rating. Whatever is bringing down Josh is also causing more targets to Mack. Which I assume would be the other team's game plan.

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Missing two of the starting three WRs, with four total being on the injury report (including Hollins) doesn't help.

[FireChans]

  On 11/12/2024 at 6:11 PM, DrDawkinstein said:

 

Exactly. I think it's more that "If Mack is getting so involved, we have other problems to deal with".

 

Mack doesnt cause Josh's lower passer rating. Whatever is bringing down Josh is also causing more targets to Mack. Which I assume would be the other team's game plan.

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If the other teams gameplan is “let Josh throw to Mack,” that kinda tells you all you need to know, right?

 

  On 11/12/2024 at 6:17 PM, Rocky Landing said:

Come on, now. Shakir had his worst game of the season, and Samuel was 4/8 for 35 yards. At 4/4 for 86 yards, and four first downs, Hollins was the best WR on the field on Sunday. Pretty hard to fault him for Allen's poor stats in that game. At this point, Hollins would have to walk on water while catching  pass for you to give hime the props he deserves.

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I think we are having two different conversations.

 

Mack can clearly be productive with Josh throwing him the ball. He was the most productive WR this week, so props for that.

 

Like I said above, if the opposing teams gameplan is “let Josh throw to Mack” that should be some kind of indicator to his ability.

 

I don’t blame Mack for Cooper/Coleman being hurt or for him being the best of a weak bunch otherwise. I still think that’s all he is, despite catching a deep pass that Josh had to scramble to create, that we’ve seen lots of lesser WR’s do in Josh’s tenure. 

[DrDawkinstein]

  On 11/12/2024 at 6:22 PM, FireChans said:

If the other teams gameplan is “let Josh throw to Mack,” that kinda tells you all you need to know, right?

 

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But doesnt tell me anything I didnt already know either

[Sweats]

  On 11/12/2024 at 6:19 PM, Prospector said:

He always seemed to have money though

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Oh, he definitely had money and always got gigs......he always footed our bar tabs too.

 

Good guy, just a little "off".

 

 

[stevestojan]

Awareness was at 100% when he caught the ball before the half and didn’t hesitate for a millisecond to get up and get out of bounds to stop the clock. 
 

Leave it to the NFL to force him to continue to wear those foot prisons. No fun league. 

[Nephilim17]

He's a backup WR. Good to see him produce when injuries give him more of a starting role. I'm not expecting him to give us starter production, though.

[Rocky Landing]

  On 11/12/2024 at 6:22 PM, FireChans said:

 

I think we are having two different conversations.

 

Mack can clearly be productive with Josh throwing him the ball. He was the most productive WR this week, so props for that.

 

Like I said above, if the opposing teams gameplan is “let Josh throw to Mack” that should be some kind of indicator to his ability.

 

I don’t blame Mack for Cooper/Coleman being hurt or for him being the best of a weak bunch otherwise. I still think that’s all he is, despite catching a deep pass that Josh had to scramble to create, that we’ve seen lots of lesser WR’s do in Josh’s tenure. 

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Well, that is a different conversation than "he sucks."

[LABILLBACKER]

He's an excellent emergency outlet that defenses don't focus on because of his blocking. That's why his catches are so impactful.