CEN-CAL17 Posted Monday at 06:35 PM Share Posted Monday at 06:35 PM Taylor’s long run in 1st Half…. Why would our defense shift our strength to the weak side and the short side of the field? Epenesa obviously has the edge, Dorian is lined up looks like outside shade of the LT. Bernard is heads up over center. Meanwhile 99 is outside shade of the RT, where there’s a TE, and another TE in the wing position. Plus WR Alec Pierce is motioning down. 99 seems way inside, TJohnson has the edge against that formation???? Add that Quentin Nelson pulled to the right…… It doesn’t add up to me. Seems like our LBs are out of position and why not have favor the wide side in alignment?! I feel like we allowed that to happen if that how we intended to defend that formation leaving the wide side basically undefended thoughts? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweats Posted Monday at 06:39 PM Share Posted Monday at 06:39 PM I noticed that as well when i re-played that snap back......it just seems like we left the whole weak side open and were completely out of position for what Indy had lined up for. We made no adjustments and yet again, allowed another runner to have his way with us. This will not work for us in the playoffs and in fact, will lead to an early exit. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Romes Posted Monday at 06:40 PM Share Posted Monday at 06:40 PM This is the second game (Jets) where we let up 1 really long gain on the ground but pretty much shut the door on the run otherwise, forcing stops when they try to run. Maybe they are sand bagging their YPR defense stats to goad the opposition into a game plan featuring the run. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEN-CAL17 Posted Monday at 06:41 PM Author Share Posted Monday at 06:41 PM Just now, Sweats said: I noticed that as well when i re-played that snap back......it just seems like we left the whole weak side open and were completely out of position for what Indy had lined up for. We made no adjustments and yet again, allowed another runner to have his way with us. This will not work for us in the playoffs and in fact, will lead to an early exit. You mean we left the whole strong side wide open…. Which happened to be the wide side as well. Why not just line the defense out of bounds… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotAGuy Posted Monday at 06:42 PM Share Posted Monday at 06:42 PM I do stupid stuff all the time too. 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1105 Posted Monday at 06:43 PM Share Posted Monday at 06:43 PM They ran this play twice in the game. The first obviously was the big run early in the game. The 2nd time the Bills stonewalled it after they adjusted. It was a stretch zone that looked like Taylor was going inside before stretching the zone outside. The first time the Bills got sucked inside and the Colts got leverage on everyone. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemac2001 Posted Monday at 06:45 PM Share Posted Monday at 06:45 PM 1 minute ago, gonzo1105 said: They ran this play twice in the game. The first obviously was the big run early in the game. The 2nd time the Bills stonewalled it after they adjusted. It was a stretch zone that looked like Taylor was going inside before stretching the zone outside. The first time the Bills got sucked inside and the Colts got leverage on everyone. Noticed that as well the 2nd time they had no space Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEN-CAL17 Posted Monday at 07:01 PM Author Share Posted Monday at 07:01 PM 15 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said: They ran this play twice in the game. The first obviously was the big run early in the game. The 2nd time the Bills stonewalled it after they adjusted. It was a stretch zone that looked like Taylor was going inside before stretching the zone outside. The first time the Bills got sucked inside and the Colts got leverage on everyone. It’s not hard to get sucked inside when your DL edge is inside 2 TEs, both LBs are weak side and a Nickel Back has the edge. The alignment doesn’t make sense. But maybe that’s how they do want to line up which thst is my question…. A run like that on that alignment doesn’t surprise me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted Monday at 07:12 PM Share Posted Monday at 07:12 PM Pure speculation but is the alignment like this because Hamlin was supposed to blitz to the right side of the offense. He ran up into the hole very quickly so much so he ran himself out of the play. Wonder if he was crashing to that side on a blitz and thus you have Johnson and Hamlin on that side. Maybe Colts got lucky pulling Nelson to that side and blowing open a huge hole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1105 Posted Monday at 07:12 PM Share Posted Monday at 07:12 PM 6 minutes ago, CEN-CAL17 said: It’s not hard to get sucked inside when your DL edge is inside 2 TEs, both LBs are weak side and a Nickel Back has the edge. The alignment doesn’t make sense. But maybe that’s how they do want to line up which thst is my question…. A run like that on that alignment doesn’t surprise me. Most defenses schemes in the NFL do not contain with their DE. A lot of times on run plays the Defensive End is taught a spill technique to get a RB to go lateral so LBs can flow to the football and make the tackle 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted Monday at 07:37 PM Share Posted Monday at 07:37 PM (edited) 25 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said: Most defenses schemes in the NFL do not contain with their DE. A lot of times on run plays the Defensive End is taught a spill technique to get a RB to go lateral so LBs can flow to the football and make the tackle Agreed and in this case it was not a LB, but a safety that was moving laterally and got sucked in and allowed Taylor to hit the hole. There was a great shot of Hamlin coming up and staying level to the RB and then Taylor bursts 2 more players to the outside and Hamlin reacts slowly and can not get to the hole. I think he lost sight of Taylor behind the larger players and was just a step or two late in getting going and that with his lack of burst - made him 3 steps behind and trailing. We have seen the Bills do that formation shift several times and if Hamlin plays it correctly it is a small gain or a tackle for a loss as we saw other times, but in this defense - if 1 guy is out of play or makes the wrong read - there was a gap to be exploited and no speed for others to recover. We saw something similar on the Henry TD run to start the Baltimore game - Hamlin being a step or 2 slow to his spot and that allowing a huge gain. I don’t think it was wrong - I think 1 player misplayed it and left a hole that could not be filled and that happens - that is what explosive plays usually are. You can’t just excuse the mistake, but to be fair other than that mistake - they gave up 56 yards on 20 carries for a 2.8 average. I think they are still finding their way with lots of new parts. Hyde and Poyer had several games like this their 1st year in this defense as they all learned to play together and react to things. Edited Monday at 07:40 PM by Rochesterfan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted Monday at 08:31 PM Share Posted Monday at 08:31 PM Some of you philistines refuse to study EPA. This play was actually a good thing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotAGuy Posted Monday at 09:02 PM Share Posted Monday at 09:02 PM 29 minutes ago, SageAgainstTheMachine said: Some of you philistines refuse to study EPA. This play was actually a good thing. You had Taylor on a parlay with 100+ yards? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elroy16 Posted Monday at 10:12 PM Share Posted Monday at 10:12 PM 3 hours ago, Sweats said: I noticed that as well when i re-played that snap back......it just seems like we left the whole weak side open and were completely out of position for what Indy had lined up for. We made no adjustments and yet again, allowed another runner to have his way with us. This will not work for us in the playoffs and in fact, will lead to an early exit. Lol, this is a joke, right? 5 carries for 7 yards in the second half. Not to mention Hamlin could have made a play on the big run had he taken a better angle. Ya'll are crazy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted Monday at 10:31 PM Share Posted Monday at 10:31 PM Noticed Bernard was caught on the inside shoulder of a blocking OL on this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjt328 Posted Monday at 10:42 PM Share Posted Monday at 10:42 PM Based purely on body language, I'm noticing a lot more confusion on the defense this year. Guys scrambling before the snap trying to figure out who to cover. After a big passing play, defensive backs going back and forth about someone being out of position. Not to mention the D-Line constantly getting burned on screens, and failing to keep contain. Hopefully they can figure things out quickly. We are already past the halfway mark, and the postseason is coming quickly. We have a nice record and the AFC East is already in the bag. But I'm not feeling very confident about our chances in the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted Monday at 11:18 PM Share Posted Monday at 11:18 PM Just like a ‘blown coverage’ on a passing play the same thing can happen on a running play. It happens! They obviously watched it on the sideline tablets and corrected for it from that point on. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted Tuesday at 12:45 AM Share Posted Tuesday at 12:45 AM We got caught in inside leverage on what turned out to be an outside run. It sucks but it happens. Hamlin got caught flat footed. He was our only chance at stopping this run from going 50+ yards. But hey great work from Rapp on that play leveraging Taylor to slow him down enough so Dorian Williams could catch up. Between this play and the long Breece Hall run in the Jets game, Rapp is reminding us why the position was named SAFETY. And on those two plays our opponents went on to score a combined 3 points. Keep them out of the endzone and anything can happen. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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