This was suppose to be a rebuild year

[Back2Buff]

12 minutes ago, ganesh said:

The Bills were expected to finish 3rd in the division and miss the playoffs.  That was considered a rebuild year.

 

The betting market had the AFC East as a toss up.  I think most were expecting wildcat with ten wins.  I honestly think this team ends the year with 11 wins, but will win division.  In the grand scheme of NFL, Bills aren't top 5, which they have been over the last 4 years.

[Sweats]

Running through the gauntlet the next month will tell us where this team really is.

[ganesh]

2 minutes ago, Don Otreply said:

Agree, the play calling was awfully predictable during the Colts game at times, but we won by ten points over a feisty team that very much needed a win, same can be said about the Miami game, they gave us their all, and we won both games, it’s a good sign that we can tuff out wins  even when we are riddled with injuries, I am very psyched about our overall chances!

 

(gotta get our team healthy) 

 

GO BILLS!!!

and when the opponent is desperate and threw their kitchen sink at us...and we responded. Go Bills !!!

[Don Otreply]

1 hour ago, Cray51 said:

Which is ironic because I saw all of the predictions that the first 6 games of the season would be tough and this was a super challenging schedule as a whole.

 

The reality is the NFL has a lot of mediocre teams this year 

Face it, the NFL has a lot of mediocre team every year, 

[ganesh]

2 minutes ago, Sweats said:

Running through the gauntlet the next month will tell us where this team really is.

Two on the road and Two at home...We match up with all these teams...None of these teams are punishing as the Baltimore Ravens....The Bills will compete with all four of them.

[Xwnyer]

5 minutes ago, Sweats said:

Running through the gauntlet the next month will tell us where this team really is.

right now I would take 2 wins in the next 4 games.

[Sweats]

1 minute ago, ganesh said:

Two on the road and Two at home...We match up with all these teams...None of these teams are punishing as the Baltimore Ravens....The Bills will compete with all four of them.

 

 

 

As for our overall schedule, this is the "meat" of it that i've been looking forward to all season.......It's going to tell us exactly what this team is from here on out.

 

I have no doubt that we will compete with them, however, it's going to get real interesting.

[ganesh]

3 minutes ago, Sweats said:

 

 

 

As for our overall schedule, this is the "meat" of it that i've been looking forward to all season.......It's going to tell us exactly what this team is from here on out.

 

I have no doubt that we will compete with them, however, it's going to get real interesting.

All Bills games with Josh Allen are very interesting...especially the close ones...He always puts us in a position to win the game.

[appoo]

3 hours ago, Gman10 said:

KC, 9ers and Rams are all going to be super tough. The Texans was a winnable game. Ravens on the other hand....yikes.
 

Cardinals are no.1 in the NFC west and we beat them

Yea it had slipped my mind how well the Cards were playing and they do look like a playoff team

2 hours ago, MikePJ76 said:

Were the bills not supposed to play the games they won?  Why not when the bills win their games the fans of the team find these foolish reason to downplay everything?  
 

Would you like them to petition the league to not play the jets and pats in December and ask to play the ravens and chiefs again so that they can get wins that boost their power rankings or something? 
 

the history of the league is filled with good teams beating up bad teams all season.  
 

its not about who or how, its about how many and right now its 8.  Hopefully they can get it to 13 and be the number 1 seed

Wasn’t downplaying them at all. That’s why I lead with the Bills are a good team. They absolutely are and the ceiling for this team is the Super Bowl 

6 minutes ago, Xwnyer said:

right now I would take 2 wins in the next 4 games.

Which would mean beating 1 of KC, SF and Detroit along with Rams. Yea I’d definitely take that

[Captain Hindsight]

1 hour ago, HansLanda said:

there could be an argument it is a 'soft' schedule, but you don't have a choice on who is on your calendar. it still is a first place schedule based on last season the way the NFL does things. 

This is the NFL. Even the bad teams are good. Bryce Young and Daniel Jones are horrible by NFL standards, but given the right circumstances, they could beat any time in the league.

 

Before the season the Jets and Dolphins were shoe ins for the playoffs and to challenge for the division title and possibly the AFC. Now they are a laughing stock and Denver, who most thought would be a terrible team, went toe to toe with the chiefs yesterday. 

 

The margin between great and good and bad is so thin and often times just comes down to coaching, attitude, discipline and often times, just dumb luck.

[Einstein's Dog]

30 minutes ago, Don Otreply said:

Agree, the play calling was awfully predictable during the Colts game at times, but we won by ten points over a feisty team that very much needed a win, same can be said about the Miami game, they gave us their all, and we won both games, it’s a good sign that we can tuff out wins  even when we are riddled with injuries, I am very psyched about our overall chances!

 

(gotta get our team healthy) 

 

GO BILLS!!!

You're saying it was predictable like it was a bad thing (like the others before you were doing).  The staff was making the right calls which happened to be predictable. 

 

Running on first down with a lead of two scores in the second half was the right call.  Taking the half minute of the clock and shortening the game, while predictable, is a recipe for winning football.  Sorry if it bored you and the others.   But I was shouting at the TV for them to run the ball, take the half minute, and just get out of there with the victory.

 

8-2!!  Lets work on the meaningless style point against New England at the end when it doesn't matter.

[colin]

the cynic in me will say that the bills schemes basically roast bad teams and sort of hope that good teams make mistakes vs us, and what we are seeing here is how little the missing talent really helped us win games when we had it (additionally, that the talent missing wasn't that great to start with).

 

what's interesting in the past two weeks is what we saw was the team operating almost entirely within the scheme/plan.  Last week vs miami the d was slow cooked but managed to greatly limit deep passing, which they came out and said was their plan.  they didn't get any pop plays at all and it lead to miami just having long long scoring drives.  yesterday vs the colts we saw the d make the opportune negative plays within the scheme (3 picks, 4 sacks) as well as the weakness of the scheme (the big run by taylor looked like a very typical bills d breakdown for huge yards, vs the constant 8-15 yarders vs miami).  we also saw a bit less of allen going off script and supermanning a play late.

 

i really hope getting cooper, coleman, kinkaid back on O and getting a healthy DL and milano back for the playoffs put us in the best position to win it all, but my cynical concern is that we have seen a fully loaded bills team fold vs teams with injuries (cinci and the scrap heap oline that murdered us at home in the playoffs, 13 seconds can't get a stop, the houston game where we let watson break tackles and steal the win) and an injured team (the aj klien debacle vs kc at home last playoffs) lose looking more or less how our team looks now.  the common refrain from the mcd haters on this board (myself included) is that he can make mediocre chicken salad out of chicken poop, but can't make anything much better vs good opposition with better talent, and we constantly have players come in who just don't get burn or don't fit (mjs, samuel, bishop, edwards, in the past hines and others).

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

9 hours ago, appoo said:

Keep in mind the bills have played 2 games against teams that will make the playoffs (probably), against the Ravens and Texans and lost both - (and got blown out by the Ravens).  

I think this is a good football team but probably the worst of the Lept Allen teams. 
 

But really games against the Chiefs and Niners will tell us much but right now my thinking is the team ends up with 4-5 losses and the 2/3 seed, wins a wild card and then loses the divisional to either Baltimore or KC or Houston.

 

And honestly that’s a good season for a group with a rookie WR as its best WR,  and what looks like a lack of blue chip across the DB other than Taron Johnson and across the front except Ed Oliver (who’s having a strange season)

Miami with tua and colts with Richardson benched and JT/buckner healthy are both playoff caliber teams.  They just had real bad injury luck when not playing us lol.  Cardinals are probably gonna win 11 games their schedule was super front loaded (would’ve been 12 if they beat us). 
 

we haven’t really played anyone when our new wr1 was acclimated and were missing most of our starting defense for that ravens blowout so it’s tough to tell where this team is ceiling wise..  those tough games were also in a back to back to back road game stretch which is a little ridiculous to begin with imo 😂. That doesn’t get talked about enough.  Playing two average teams in back to back road games is tough enough 

Edited November 11 by Generic_Bills_Fan

[Don Otreply]

11 minutes ago, Einstein's Dog said:

You're saying it was predictable like it was a bad thing (like the others before you were doing).  The staff was making the right calls which happened to be predictable. 

 

Running on first down with a lead of two scores in the second half was the right call.  Taking the half minute of the clock and shortening the game, while predictable, is a recipe for winning football.  Sorry if it bored you and the others.   But I was shouting at the TV for them to run the ball, take the half minute, and just get out of there with the victory.

 

8-2!!  Lets work on the meaningless style point against New England at the end when it doesn't matter.

You’re misinterpreting my thoughts, I’m not harshing out on the OC like he should get fired or nonsense like that, I said it because it was true, lol, in the overall scheme of the game the play calling worked, but it made it easier for the defense is all, if you notice my posts in general, I’m super happy with the team, even when I critique some things,

 

 

GO BILLS!!!

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

1 hour ago, Back2Buff said:

 

The betting market had the AFC East as a toss up.  I think most were expecting wildcat with ten wins.  I honestly think this team ends the year with 11 wins, but will win division.  In the grand scheme of NFL, Bills aren't top 5, which they have been over the last 4 years.

Non bills teams seem to get overhyped around here based on name alone and the bills seem to get a bit under hyped because we are always trying to dig into their flaws.  You could definitely support the argument bills are top 5 right now.  
 

Detroit,KC,Baltimore have definitely looked better than the bills so far but then you’ve got  Minnesota who is faltering, SF,buffalo,Houston,Washington to fill out those last few spots.  Teams like SF seem like they’re supposed to be better than the bills but in reality haven’t really looked it this season.  
 

and to top it off,I don’t think the bills were even top 10 at this point last year 🤣

Edited November 11 by Generic_Bills_Fan

[ganesh]

13 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

Non bills teams seem to get overhyped around here based on name alone and the bills seem to get a bit under hyped because we are always trying to dig into their flaws.  You could definitely support the argument bills are top 5 right now.  
 

Detroit,KC,Baltimore have definitely looked better than the bills so far but then you’ve got  Minnesota who is faltering, SF,buffalo,Houston,Washington to fill out those last few spots.  Teams like SF seem like they’re supposed to be better than the bills but in reality haven’t really looked it this season.  
 

and to top it off,I don’t think the bills were even top 10 at this point last year 🤣

So true....At this point, the BIlls were three games behind the Dolphins for the division race...and then they went on the run....

[Sammy Watkins' Rib]

1 hour ago, Back2Buff said:

 

The betting market had the AFC East as a toss up.  I think most were expecting wildcat with ten wins.  I honestly think this team ends the year with 11 wins, but will win division.  In the grand scheme of NFL, Bills aren't top 5, which they have been over the last 4 years.

that would require a disastrous 3–4 finish to the season. 
 

 

[Einstein's Dog]

5 minutes ago, Don Otreply said:

You’re misinterpreting my thoughts, I’m not harshing out on the OC like he should get fired or nonsense like that, I said it because it was true, lol, in the overall scheme of the game the play calling worked, but it made it easier for the defense is all, if you notice my posts in general, I’m super happy with the team, even when I critique some things,

 

I don't mean to come off upset, and I realize you're not advocating for mass firings.  Some seem to think it was the wrong move and that's where I disagree, at least with the runs in the 4th quarter.  They were barely real running plays they were more intentioned to be 30 second time wasters, game shorteners.  It's one of those unfortunate statistic reducers, makes our RBs ypc look worse than it should be.

 

For instance, in the Balt/Cincy game towards the end, under two minutes to go, Cincy just took their 2nd TO.  Second and goal from the 5 and Balt inexpicably threw a pass??  If they just ran the ball, Balt would have scored or forced Cincy to take a TO.  It was just the wrong call, they were lucky it didn't cost them.  I remember a time the Bills in the playoffs - I think Jax, had a first and goal with under 2 minutes in the half at like the two.  The Bills, contrary to my telepathic recommendations, went for a pass play.  There was a penalty and moved back and from there they tried passes to get in the end zone.  Settled for a FG, but enough time for Jax to do something with the ball.  I wasn't upset when they fired that OC.  Obviously these types of time mismanagements upset me.

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[Malazan]

It still is a rebuild year.

[Shaw66]

9 hours ago, Dr.Sack said:

A rebuild year is when you tear the entire house down. This year is changing the drapes (Diggs) and replacing the old carpets (Morse, Poyer, Hyde, Tre). 

It's true, it's not a rebuild, but it's still a fabulous job on the coaching (and personnel) end. The pieces keep changing, and a lot of the pieces are not high-end talent, but the team keeps winning. 

 

The list of names who have contributed is impressive: Rapp, Hamlin, Lewis, Spector, Williams, the D line rotation, the receiver room.  It's not that all of these guys, and others I haven't named, are great. The whole point is that McDermott and his staff can prepare less-than-great players, and the collective result is that the team keeps winning. That's impressive.