DapperCam Posted Monday at 05:06 AM Share Posted Monday at 05:06 AM I think RB screens require a lot of practice and repetition because it’s all about selling it and timing. Bills coaches don’t seem to value it as a play much, they probably don’t practice it much. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted Monday at 05:10 AM Share Posted Monday at 05:10 AM 3 hours ago, Low Positive said: Can't we just be happy that we are suddenly good at WR screens? Shakir is the only reason we've hit on some wr screens. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WIDE LEFT Posted Monday at 12:30 PM Share Posted Monday at 12:30 PM A big part of the problem with our RB screens ( and I can’t figure why Brady doesn’t see this) is that teams often defend the Bills using a “spy” on Allen. Since a screen is a slower developing play, it’s easy for the spy to recognize and disrupt it. Here’s a simple solution - stop calling that play. It hasn’t worked all season. If you don’t recognize WHY it doesn’t work, just accept that it doesn’t and move on to more effective plays. We have the best QB in football; he doesn’t need that. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DallasBillsFan1 Posted Monday at 12:55 PM Share Posted Monday at 12:55 PM 10 hours ago, Estro said: Spot on. Allen is so quick to want to move off his spot to any pressure or even perceived pressure...... That it seems to make the screen game very difficult. Like you said you need to invite the rush toward you, accept the rush patiently then deliver the throw. Too often Allen rushes off his spot which creates a very disjointed, difficult pass to get the screen started. I've heard Greg Cosell talking a lot about the Bills disjointed passing game and Allen's too often abandoning clean pockets......and I thought today was a glaring example of both. The wins are all that matters, but there's a slice of me that is growing concerned with this passing offense. Can you win 3-4 straight in the playoffs with this offense? Not sure This. Good luck keeping up with KC or Baltimore in the playoffs with the offensive dribble I saw yesterday. Next week vs KC will be a good marker of where this team is at. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Quint Posted Monday at 01:36 PM Share Posted Monday at 01:36 PM 10 hours ago, 947 said: There was a screen attempt to Cook today that went through his hands. Watching live, it looked like there was some room to run. They never showed a replay, so I guess we'll never know. Yeah, if he catches the one about halfway through the 2nd quarter, it's a big gain. The problem was that the ball was rifled through about 4 guys and Cook wasn't ready for it. It's not very often that we see a clean screen that's blocked well, sold well, and thrown in a place where the RB can get moving up the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Stonada Posted Monday at 02:11 PM Share Posted Monday at 02:11 PM Josh is not great at the kind of touch doink pass that screens require. He seems to have great touch only at full sprint, with two defenders bearing down on him at full speed. Then his touch is perfect. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfball323 Posted Monday at 02:22 PM Share Posted Monday at 02:22 PM This drives me crazy too. Bring in Fitz, Freddie and Chan for a couple of days and get that stuff figured out. It's such a weapon when teams start pinning their ears back... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweats Posted Monday at 02:24 PM Share Posted Monday at 02:24 PM 12 hours ago, Big Turk said: Allen doesn't seem to allow the rush to come to him long enough... He seems to hurry the throws before the D is far enough sucked in. The OLine is also terrible at selling it because a lot of times the entire D is waiting around the RB for the screen to come. I think this is exactly it..... JA looks like he doesn't have the patience to let the play develop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah John Posted Monday at 04:59 PM Share Posted Monday at 04:59 PM 15 hours ago, Big Turk said: Allen doesn't seem to allow the rush to come to him long enough... He seems to hurry the throws before the D is far enough sucked in. The OLine is also terrible at selling it because a lot of times the entire D is waiting around the RB for the screen to come. Defenses know there's no middle ground. If it's not a screen, the Bills O line does its pocket thing and never deviates from protecting Allen. If they do something else on a pass play, red flags go out, and they cover the RB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djp14150 Posted Monday at 05:51 PM Share Posted Monday at 05:51 PM I call it the “ magic eye” screen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted Monday at 05:55 PM Share Posted Monday at 05:55 PM 12 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said: Shakir is the only reason we've hit on some wr screens. Coleman has been pretty good at them as well with limited usage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris heff Posted Monday at 11:16 PM Share Posted Monday at 11:16 PM Maybe they should have Drew Bledsoe comeback and show them how it’s done. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Since1981 Posted Monday at 11:31 PM Share Posted Monday at 11:31 PM The effectiveness of screens relies on defensive linemen pushing upfield. However, defenders are trained to contain Allen. On the Manning-cast, Belichick pointed out, “Oh no, the D-line shouldn’t go upfield on 17.” This approach is a core part of the defensive scheme against 17, which often involves linemen staying back, thus naturally disrupting screen plays. This D scheme inherently makes screens challenging for this team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted Monday at 11:46 PM Share Posted Monday at 11:46 PM More body language and practice reps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted Tuesday at 12:08 AM Share Posted Tuesday at 12:08 AM 51 minutes ago, chris heff said: Maybe they should have Drew Bledsoe comeback and show them how it’s done. Fitz was more of the screen master than Bledsoe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris heff Posted Tuesday at 02:06 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 02:06 PM 13 hours ago, vincec said: Fitz was more of the screen master than Bledsoe. I was being sarcastic, Bledsoe was awful with screen pass, he’d hit the guy in the shoes every time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted Tuesday at 02:09 PM Author Share Posted Tuesday at 02:09 PM 14 hours ago, Since1981 said: The effectiveness of screens relies on defensive linemen pushing upfield. However, defenders are trained to contain Allen. On the Manning-cast, Belichick pointed out, “Oh no, the D-line shouldn’t go upfield on 17.” This approach is a core part of the defensive scheme against 17, which often involves linemen staying back, thus naturally disrupting screen plays. This D scheme inherently makes screens challenging for this team. but defenders must do the same with Lamar and Mahomes too? Those teams have very effective RB screen games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted Tuesday at 04:34 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 04:34 PM Our Screen Game is Puzzling Sucks Fixed it for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP51 Posted Tuesday at 06:38 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 06:38 PM On 11/10/2024 at 9:00 PM, BillsFan130 said: I don't think the bills have ran a successful RB screen since the Chan Gailey days I was thinking more Dick Jauron LOL... but ok. 🤣 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted Tuesday at 06:46 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 06:46 PM It shouldn't be...🤔 Just eat the fly! Eat the fly! 🪰 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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