Week 11 - Chiefs at Bills Game Week Thread

[Saxum]

 

[beebe]

it's crazy how terrible KC's tackles are considering the interior three OL are probably the best in football. mahomes has been sacked 20 times thru 9 games.

 

that puts him on pace for being sacked 37 times. 

 

in his six prior seasons, he's never been sacked more than 28 times. 

 

poor pass protection, especially on the left side, has handcuffed the chiefs offense. 

[ToGoGo]

1 hour ago, MikePJ76 said:

From listening to Buffalo plus this morning and WGR on and off throughout the day apparently the talking point of the day is Allen is struggling and doesn't look like himself and Dalton Kincaid is a JAG who does nothing to help the team.

 

Pretty absurd takes.  But hey I guess there isn't much to talk about this week.

If that’s what they’re saying they should be taken off radio. 
 

How you can watch Allen and say he’s struggling, is beyond me. 

[Saxum]

 

[stevewin]

So a little while ago earlier today I'm taking a walk through my neighborhood in NC minding my own business, and the mailman is passing then stops and flags me down.  He proceeds to start SCREAMING at me "NOBODY!"  I'm thinking wtf? "AND I MEAN ABSOLUTELY NOBODY!"  At this point I'm getting uncomfortable and wondering if/how this is going to end and if the guy is going to go 'postal' on me - he keeps going: "NOBODY IN THE WHOLE WIDE WORLD!!!!!"

 

 

 

 

 

 

"CIRCLES THE WAGONS LIKE THE BUFFALO BILLS!"

 

Then he drove off.   I realized I was wearing a Bills shirt.  Going to go ahead and take the Bills-positive encounter with the screaming civil servant as a positive omen for this weekend.  Bills by a Billion.

Edited 46 minutes ago by stevewin

[LABILLBACKER]

2 hours ago, atlbillsfan1975 said:

It’s just not that big of a game for the Bills. Buffalo has beaten them 3 straight years In the regular season. I want to see the Bills win, but honestly of any game left, I will find the bright side pretty easily and fast if our guys lose. 

You want to know what a true victory would be Sunday?  Not having any additional players get hurt going into the bye.

[MikePJ76]

1 hour ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

On Kincaid - I concluded last year that he is a possession Tight End. You could see that he has average speed, below average play strength, and above average feel for zone.

 

So yes, while Joe Marino highlights some plays if Allen would have held the ball a beat longer Kincaid uncovered down the seam, or Allen hits Kincaid in stride, it doesn’t change the trajectory of his career.

 

He isn’t big enough, or fast enough to be an athletic down the field mismatch. 
 

Two Bills coordinators have gotten a good look at Kincaid now and he’s been a short yardage specialist in both systems, catch and run. Good hands, slippery after the catch, limited top end speed, limited presence on the field. 

[Straight Hucklebuck]

1 minute ago, MikePJ76 said:

Yeah cute meme. 

 

What are you saying?
 

You want Kincaid to be the #1 option in your pass game?

 

Look up the top tight ends this year and slot Kincaid in if the Bills used him the “right way”. 
 

After last year other Bills fans made the case that he needed to be the focal point of the Bills offense, 10-games in that doesn’t seem to be happening, why is that? 

[MikePJ76]

2 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

Yeah cute meme. 

 

What are you saying?
 

You want Kincaid to be the #1 option in your pass game?

 

Look up the top tight ends this year and slot Kincaid in if the Bills used him the “right way”. 
 

After last year other Bills fans made the case that he needed to be the focal point of the Bills offense, 10-games in that doesn’t seem to be happening, why is that? 

That's a GIF sir and a great one from this past sunday I might add.

[Straight Hucklebuck]

Just now, MikePJ76 said:

That's a GIF sir and a great one from this past sunday I might add.

Yeah we all saw it. 
 

1980’s hair girl, Colts fan.

 

We’re 26 games in, highest yardage is 87. 
 

Been over 80-yards 3x. 
 

I like Kincaid, but I think he’s slotted correctly. 

[Andrew Son]

2 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

Yeah we all saw it. 
 

1980’s hair girl, Colts fan.

 

We’re 26 games in, highest yardage is 87. 
 

Been over 80-yards 3x. 
 

I like Kincaid, but I think he’s slotted correctly. 

I think you need some historical context for TE’s and development time 

[Straight Hucklebuck]

14 minutes ago, Andrew Son said:

I think you need some historical context for TE’s and development time 

Just looked up some of the better tight ends in our era.

 

Rob Gronkowski - Year 2 - 1,300+ yards

 

George Kittle - Year 2 - 1,300+ yards

 

Kellen Winslow - Year 3 - 1,000+ yards

 

Tony Gonzalez - Year 4 - 1,200 yards

 

Travis Kelce - starts his career with microfracture surgery - then two years at 800+ yards, Year 4 starts his 1,000 yard streak.

 

Antonio Gates - Year 2 - 964 yards, Year 3 - 1,100 yards

 

Mark Andrews - Year 2 - 862 yards, Year 4 - 1,300+ yards

 

Cole Kmet - Year 2 - is his 2nd best year in 5 years total now

 

David Njoku - Year 2 - is his 2nd best year in 8 years

 

Trey McBride - Year 2 goes over 860 yards, on pace for more this year. 
 

 

Did you try and prove something here?

 

Also Kincaid is already 25 years old.

 

Also Bills didn’t draft Kincaid to block, Beane has said this. 
 

So looks like good Tight Ends start showing they’re really good in Year 2, and have some of their best years by Season number 3. 
 

Edited 22 hours ago by Straight Hucklebuck

[BigDingus]

Wanna see hell freeze over & watch Nick Wright go to bat for the Bills? 

 

He ranks them number 2 in his tiers, then fights off Brou & Mangini saying they should be lower than Detroit & Baltimore - 

 

[Andrew Son]

3 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

Just looked up some of the better tight ends in our era.

 

Rob Gronkowski - Year 2 - 1,300+ yards

 

George Kittle - Year 2 - 1,300+ yards

 

Kellen Winslow - Year 3 - 1,000+ yards

 

Tony Gonzalez - Year 4 - 1,200 yards

 

Travis Kelce - starts his career with microfracture surgery - then two years at 800+ yards, Year 4 starts his 1,000 yard streak.

 

Antonio Gates - Year 2 - 964 yards, Year 3 - 1,100 yards

 

Mark Andrews - Year 2 - 862 yards, Year 4 - 1,300+ yards

 

Cole Kmet - Year 2 - is his 2nd best year in 5 years total now

 

David Njoku - Year 2 - is his 2nd best year in 8 years

 

Trey McBride - Year 2 goes over 860 yards, on pace for more this year. 
 

 

Did you try and prove something here?

 

Also Kincaid is already 25 years old.

 

Also Bills didn’t draft Kincaid to block, Beane has said this. 
 

So looks like good Tight Ends start showing they’re really good in Year 2, and have some of their best years by Season number 3. 
 

Kincaid currently ranks 20th all time in catches over their first two years, with several games left to move up the list.

[90sBills]

2 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

To be fair, I didn't watch the game this past week.  Although it was still a divisional game against a pretty solid defense.  

 

Hey, I hope we shut him down.  I was just saying I don't think its wise to underestimate Hunt this week as we have not been good at stopping the run or defending short passes/screens either.  And one thing we know is that KC has been effective against us at attacking our weak spots in the past.  

I think there will be a healthy dose of Hardman jet sweeps this Sunday to supplement KC’s run game.

[Straight Hucklebuck]

7 minutes ago, Andrew Son said:

Kincaid currently ranks 20th all time in catches over their first two years, with several games left to move up the list.

At 9.6 yards/catch and 4 TDs.

 

If I need historical context, okay.

 

He looks like a possession Tight End. 
 

I don’t think that’s an insane take based on his first 26 games here. 

[TH3]

1 hour ago, Saxum said:

 

He is playing Sunday 

[90sBills]

20 minutes ago, BigDingus said:

Wanna see hell freeze over & watch Nick Wright go to bat for the Bills? 

 

He ranks them number 2 in his tiers, then fights off Brou & Mangini saying they should be lower than Detroit & Baltimore - 

 

He’s been doing it all season. It’s kinda weird. Not used to him praising the Bills or Allen. 

[Savage]

1 hour ago, beebe said:

it's crazy how terrible KC's tackles are considering the interior three OL are probably the best in football. mahomes has been sacked 20 times thru 9 games.

 

that puts him on pace for being sacked 37 times. 

 

in his six prior seasons, he's never been sacked more than 28 times. 

 

poor pass protection, especially on the left side, has handcuffed the chiefs offense. 

Yeah,

 

it’s really handcuffed them.

 

it’s handcuffed them so badly, that they haven’t lost a game yet.

 

bastards!!

 

[Brand J]

21 minutes ago, BigDingus said:

Wanna see hell freeze over & watch Nick Wright go to bat for the Bills? 

 

He ranks them number 2 in his tiers, then fights off Brou & Mangini saying they should be lower than Detroit & Baltimore - 

 

 

Just now, 90sBills said:

He’s been doing it all season. It’s kinda weird. Not used to him praising the Bills or Allen. 

It’s not weird when you understand his motivation. Nick likes being right. Before the year most of the prognosticators said Buffalo was done, that they wouldn’t win the AFCE or even make the playoffs. Nick said for years the Bills were being overrated, but this year they were underrated and would win the AFCE again. Now that the season is playing out and what he said has proven to be true, he champions the Bills as his horse because all others said otherwise. He likes being in the position to say “I was right and you were wrong.”