Week 11 - Chiefs at Bills Game Week Thread

[boyst]

36 minutes ago, EasternOHBillsFan said:

 

Extra rest... the game in two weeks is inconsquential. It's the TIME involved... nobody wants to see receivers drop balls or be ineffective over a bum knee and possibly hurt themself much worse by overcompensating.

 

So, question for this - for both teams and everyone to answer. Maybe more so for the Chiefs to answer...

 

It's 4th quarter and 6 min left. Both teams have had a few players banged up and taken out of the game. Maybe a starting DL or RB and a DB. The other team is up 10 points. Do you go ahead and not throttle it to avoid injury?

 

I would If I'm the chiefs down 10 with little time to go without Butler, too. Also assuming this is a low scoring game (winner gets 24 pts, chiefs haven't allowed 24 pts since the eagles super bowl).

[Kelly to Allen]

1 minute ago, boyst said:

So, question for this - for both teams and everyone to answer. Maybe more so for the Chiefs to answer...

 

It's 4th quarter and 6 min left. Both teams have had a few players banged up and taken out of the game. Maybe a starting DL or RB and a DB. The other team is up 10 points. Do you go ahead and not throttle it to avoid injury?

 

I would If I'm the chiefs down 10 with little time to go without Butler, too. Also assuming this is a low scoring game (winner gets 24 pts, chiefs haven't allowed 24 pts since the eagles super bowl).

Both teams are not going to go all out. Both teams will hold something back. 

 

Obviously you want to win but again it's just for seeding. It's also two teams that have nothing to really prove to each other. 

 

It's going to come down to who wins in January 

 

 

[WotAGuy]

6 minutes ago, Kelly to Allen said:

Both teams are not going to go all out. Both teams will hold something back. 

 

Obviously you want to win but again it's just for seeding. It's also two teams that have nothing to really prove to each other. 

 

It's going to come down to who wins in January 

 

 

Really?  It sure looked like KC and Baltimore were not holding back in that opener. Why would the Bills and Chiefs not go all out this week?  They have played each other like 7 times in the past 5 years. What exactly will they be holding back that they haven’t already seen?

[Kelly to Allen]

18 minutes ago, WotAGuy said:

Really?  It sure looked like KC and Baltimore were not holding back in that opener. Why would the Bills and Chiefs not go all out this week?  They have played each other like 7 times in the past 5 years. What exactly will they be holding back that they haven’t already seen?

 

Because it's just a preamble or something to that effect. 

 

The seeding is important but buffalo has been down this road a million times. 

 

What buffalo hasn't been is fully healthy in a playoff run. The closest was 21 and the 13 seconds game. Even then we lost our all pro CB. 

 

What matters is ending the chiefs dynasty in Jan. Not now.

 

All that being said I think buffalo is the best team in the NFL and it's going to get ugly for KC 

18 minutes ago, WotAGuy said:

Really?  It sure looked like KC and Baltimore were not holding back in that opener. Why would the Bills and Chiefs not go all out this week?  They have played each other like 7 times in the past 5 years. What exactly will they be holding back that they haven’t already seen?

Baltimore struggles in a major way vs KC too. It's a different history, and different context 

 

Buffalo and KC are mirrors to each other with the only separation being one has rings, the other doesn't. That's it

Edited November 16 by Kelly to Allen

[WotAGuy]

5 minutes ago, Kelly to Allen said:

 

Because it's just a preamble or something to that effect. 

 

The seeding is important but buffalo has been down this road a million times. 

 

What buffalo hasn't been is fully healthy in a playoff run. The closest was 21 and the 13 seconds game. Even then we lost our all pro CB. 

 

What matters is ending the chiefs dynasty in Jan. Not now.

 

All that being said I think buffalo is the best team in the NFL and it's going to get ugly for KC 

Baltimore struggles in a major way vs KC too. It's a different history, and different context 

 

Buffalo and KC are mirrors to each other with the only separation being one has rings, the other doesn't. That's it

Your response says nothing about what you think these teams will be holding back from each other. 
 

That’s because it’s a fan-created narrative that doesn’t hold for the players and teams involved. There may be less pressure on the teams because the cost of losing isn’t that significant for the Bills, but I guarantee the Chiefs would love to be the first team to go undefeated AND win three rings in a row. KC is looking to establish history. 

[Kelly to Allen]

4 minutes ago, WotAGuy said:

Your response says nothing about what you think these teams will be holding back from each other. 
 

That’s because it’s a fan-created narrative that doesn’t hold for the players and teams involved. There may be less pressure on the teams because the cost of losing isn’t that significant for the Bills, but I guarantee the Chiefs would love to be the first team to go undefeated AND win three rings in a row. KC is looking to establish history. 

I agree. I just think the psychology is different compared to in January 

 

But like I said I think buffalo is going to beat KC pretty soundly. It's going to get ugly for KC. 

 

 

Edited November 16 by Kelly to Allen

[Kelly to Allen]

AFC championship preview....

 

1994 NFC championship intro between Dallas and San Francisco 

 

https://youtu.be/ueYco3yh_r4?si=HANpd5VHIwTnxFjv

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited November 16 by Kelly to Allen

[Ray Stonada]

2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

Wgr caller. I can’t do it justice. She said the Bills need to turn their season around (they’re 8-2)

There’s an insane unsolved mystery around “Who is Judy?” in Twin Peaks season three so I’m just glad this isn’t a reference to that. 

[Joe Ferguson]

Expect flags to be thrown every time Bills D stops the Chiefs on 3rd and 4th downs.

[Kelly to Allen]

5 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson said:

Expect flags to be thrown every time Bills D stops the Chiefs on 3rd and 4th downs.

 

Which Bills team is the 24 Bills most similar to assuming we win the super bowl?

 

1996 Packers 

1990 buffalo bills 

1976 raiders

2010 Packers

2018 Patriots 

2022 chiefs

2023 chiefs

2011 Giants 

2008 Steelers 

2015 broncos 

1987 Washington 

1988 49ers

2006 colts

1974 Steelers 

1977 cowboys 

 

I personally see the 1996 Packers and 08 Steelers 

 

 

1 hour ago, TrentEdwardsCheckDownOn4th said:

Is there anyone that kind of doesn't want to win...? I said kind of....

 

If the bills win the media narrative will be how "buffalo can beat Kansas city in the regular season but not when it really counts in the playoffs". Also if they win they will fight their hardest for the one seed potentially getting players injured along the way.

 

Very unique scenario where losing this game doesn't feel like that big of a deal. If anything id rather have kansas city undefeated in the playoffs with all the pressure In the world.

I don't think the narrative matters. I think buffalo is better and that will be abundantly clear Sunday at 7pm. 

 

The media can ignore it but it will be obvious 

 

 

8 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson said:

Expect flags to be thrown every time Bills D stops the Chiefs on 3rd and 4th downs.

🤮🤮🤮🤮

Edited November 16 by Kelly to Allen

[Kelly to Allen]

https://youtu.be/_uHYf6Bk6cw?si=i_C1Oya1rX1m0gCi

 

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

On 11/14/2024 at 8:36 AM, boyst said:

I just hope some of us can enjpy this game for what it should be - and we can all avoid refs, announcers glazing the players, and injuries. Just a good principled game where is fair.

I got a feeling in this atmosphere, we might get some of that Chiefs treatment for once. Maybe the refs give one back here and give KC a taste of their own medicine. I can see Mahomes and Kelce crying like babies as we get a few home calls for a change.

[strive_for_five_guy]

3 hours ago, EasternOHBillsFan said:

 

Extra rest... the game in two weeks is inconsquential. It's the TIME involved... nobody wants to see receivers drop balls or be ineffective over a bum knee and possibly hurt themself much worse by overcompensating.

 

So you’re predicting Cooper and Brown don’t play?

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

5 hours ago, Kelly to Allen said:

Both teams are not going to go all out. Both teams will hold something back. 

 

Obviously you want to win but again it's just for seeding. It's also two teams that have nothing to really prove to each other. 

 

It's going to come down to who wins in January 

 

 

We’ll never know as mere football fans but I really don’t think teams think this way lol seeding is ridiculously important.  I think these teams pull out all the stops against eachother in the regular season outside of risking players getting reinjured.  
 

I don’t think there’s a big difference in effort level between the regular season and playoffs between these two teams.  

Edited November 16 by Generic_Bills_Fan

[Scott7975]

17 hours ago, Billsfanatic8989 said:

We beat KC three straight regular season games. Did it do us any good in the postseason? No. 

 

Everyone in the organization will be judged on how the postseason goes. I don't even think half the fan base will care on Monday if we win. 

So I guess we should just not bother watching any football game until the Bills make the superbowl then?

[billybob71]

This game is never gonna live up to the hype, neither team needs this win and has players hurt and is looking big picture. The biggest problem in my opinion is the Chiefs interior OL vs Bills interior DL, this could be like the 2020 game in Buffalo where the Chiefs had over 200 yds rushing.

Edited November 16 by billybob71

[Scott7975]

5 minutes ago, billybob71 said:

This game is never gonna live up to the hype, neither team needs this win and has players hurt and is looking big picture

 

KC is bored. They are absolutely trying to go undefeated to cement another thing for their legacy.  Look at the reaction last week for the blocked kicked that should have given the Chiefs a loss. If you think they dont care about this game, you are nuts.

[billybob71]

3 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

 

KC is bored. They are absolutely trying to go undefeated to cement another thing for their legacy.  Look at the reaction last week for the blocked kicked that should have given the Chiefs a loss. If you think they dont care about this game, you are nuts.

Not saying they don't care but if I had to predict this game gonna be a lot of defense and run game and short passes, not a shootout or anything to exciting. It's gonna be a boring game to the average NFL fan, 

[boyst]

53 minutes ago, billybob71 said:

Not saying they don't care but if I had to predict this game gonna be a lot of defense and run game and short passes, not a shootout or anything to exciting. It's gonna be a boring game to the average NFL fan, 

Exactly. bills wont score more than 24. The bills allow teams to score more than the Chiefs so if the Bills want to win they have to come out chinstraps buckled. Teams will play conservative to start. 

 

Sort of why I want the bills to try to go deep or hard early but if they come out in a funk they'll have that stank on them all game. 

[finn]

9 hours ago, Joe Ferguson said:

Expect flags to be thrown every time Bills D stops the Chiefs on 3rd and 4th downs.

A realistic prediction (not cynical or whiny or frustrated or making excuses ahead of time): 

1. The refs will flag the at least Bills three times for every two times they flag KC;
2. The KC penalties will be relatively harmless (e.g., false starts, Offside) and never at critical moments;
3. The Bills penalties will mostly harmful (holding, DPI, RTP) and come at critical moments (e.g., killing drives, wiping out sacks);
4. The refs will miss ("miss") at least three blatant KC penalties; they will miss zero blatant Bills penalties. 
5. If KC wins, they will have won because of two or three controversial calls in their favor; if the Bills win, they will have overcome at least three critical calls that went against them.

I want to be wrong, but I'm not. Thought experiment: Can you imagine the refs blatantly favoring the Bills? (Made you laugh out loud, didn't I?)