Bass is still a big problem

[Buffalo03]

14 hours ago, WIDE LEFT said:

Everyone seems to think that the great 61 yard field goal solves what was a major problem. Sorry, but no, Bass is still a huge question mark, and could be a fatal flaw in the playoffs. Prior to that great kick, he missed an extra point. Then clanked ANOTHER extra point off the post. After the extra point he barely made, he mishit his kickoff, allowing a return at the worst possible time. So three consecutive shaky kicks, then one spectacular kick, and problem solved? I don’t think so. 

You sound like someone I wanna have a beer with

[WotAGuy]

At first I thought you were talking about my wife, because that ass is a problem. 

[hondo in seattle]

How does a kicker go from good accuracy (Bass-O-Matic) to bad accuracy (Bass is still a big problem)?

 

It's not age because he's still young.  It's not physical talent because he's already demonstrated he possesses that.   

 

It's gotta be psychological, which is to say it's fixable.  

 

Maybe the game-winning 61-yarder cures the yips.  Maybe it doesn't.  Given the options available, I agree with Beane and McD in continuing to work with Bass through his issues for a little while more.  

[klos63]

16 hours ago, WIDE LEFT said:

Everyone seems to think that the great 61 yard field goal solves what was a major problem. Sorry, but no, Bass is still a huge question mark, and could be a fatal flaw in the playoffs. Prior to that great kick, he missed an extra point. Then clanked ANOTHER extra point off the post. After the extra point he barely made, he mishit his kickoff, allowing a return at the worst possible time. So three consecutive shaky kicks, then one spectacular kick, and problem solved? I don’t think so. 

You don't know what everyone thinks.

 

He's not a problem but a worry, like kickers always are.

[Royale with Cheese]

6 minutes ago, hondo in seattle said:

How does a kicker go from good accuracy (Bass-O-Matic) to bad accuracy (Bass is still a big problem)?

 

It's not age because he's still young.  It's not physical talent because he's already demonstrated he possesses that.   

 

It's gotta be psychological, which is to say it's fixable.  

 

Maybe the game-winning 61-yarder cures the yips.  Maybe it doesn't.  Given the options available, I agree with Beane and McD in continuing to work with Bass through his issues for a little while more.  

I think its 100% psychological.  The mental game is the scariest though because you don’t know when it props back up.

[ganesh]

32 minutes ago, hondo in seattle said:

How does a kicker go from good accuracy (Bass-O-Matic) to bad accuracy (Bass is still a big problem)?

 

It's not age because he's still young.  It's not physical talent because he's already demonstrated he possesses that.   

 

It's gotta be psychological, which is to say it's fixable.  

 

Maybe the game-winning 61-yarder cures the yips.  Maybe it doesn't.  Given the options available, I agree with Beane and McD in continuing to work with Bass through his issues for a little while more.  

maybe bad technique ? 

[hondo in seattle]

Just now, ganesh said:

maybe bad technique ? 

 

I agree.  But I think that's a consequence of the yips.  You once had good technique but now your technique has become bad/inconsistent because of some mental issue.  

 

“Inside each and every one of us is one true authentic swing… Somethin’ we was born with… Somethin’ that’s ours and ours alone… Somethin’ that can’t be taught to ya or learned… Somethin’ that got to be remembered… Over time the world can rob us of that swing… It get buried inside us under all our wouldas and couldas and shouldas… Some folk even forget what their swing was like…”

 

~The Legend of Bagger Vance (Steven Pressfield)

  

[ProcessTruster]

42 minutes ago, hondo in seattle said:

How does a kicker go from good accuracy (Bass-O-Matic) to bad accuracy (Bass is still a big problem)?

 

It's not age because he's still young.  It's not physical talent because he's already demonstrated he possesses that.   

 

It's gotta be psychological, which is to say it's fixable.  

 

Maybe the game-winning 61-yarder cures the yips.  Maybe it doesn't.  Given the options available, I agree with Beane and McD in continuing to work with Bass through his issues for a little while more.  

why am I now slicing my driver, when I haven't hit a slice in two years?  something in the way I'm moving through the ball is different, could be physical, could be mental.  the good news is that the pros have coaches and movement experts who analyze and recommend changes based on what the data and observation tells them.   the parallels between field goal kicking and golf are striking

[blacklabel]

16 hours ago, WIDE LEFT said:

Nobody says a better option is available. It’s a simple point, which apparently u can’t comprehend- his inconsistency all year does not disappear because he made a 61 yard field goal. He was inconsistent in this game as well. The DEFINITION of inconsistency is when u make a 61 yarder & miss extra points. 

 

Pish posh. Quiet down. 

[hondo in seattle]

Just now, ProcessTruster said:

why am I now slicing my driver, when I haven't hit a slice in two years?  something in the way I'm moving through the ball is different, could be physical, could be mental.  the good news is that the pros have coaches and movement experts who analyze and recommend changes based on what the data and observation tells them.   the parallels between field goal kicking and golf are striking

 

It's weird.  I don't even play golf.  I have a screwed up back and can't twist without pain.   But there's something about the mental & spiritual part of golf I find appealing which has led me to read books like The Legend of Bagger Vance and Golf in the Kingdom. 

 

As a non-golfing, non-kicking observer, it does seem there are strong parallels between FG kicking and golf.  

[ddaryl]

Everybody knows Bass is a short timer

Everybody knows we can't replace him this season
Everybody knows Bass is inconsistent
Everybody knows we should replace him in an instant
We over-payed, we can't get out
That's how it goes
Everybody knows

[Einstein's Dog]

17 hours ago, WIDE LEFT said:

Everyone seems to think that the great 61 yard field goal solves what was a major problem. Sorry, but no, Bass is still a huge question mark, and could be a fatal flaw in the playoffs. Prior to that great kick, he missed an extra point. Then clanked ANOTHER extra point off the post. After the extra point he barely made, he mishit his kickoff, allowing a return at the worst possible time. So three consecutive shaky kicks, then one spectacular kick, and problem solved? I don’t think so. 

What if the major problem people were thinking about Bass was he was Bad.  And yes he missed an extra point but didn't he hit two other 40+ yard field goals?  So two 40+ yarders and a 61 yarder, doesn't that at least move him up to inconsistent?

 

And doesn't the fact that McDermott put him in to even attempt a 61 yard prove that McDermott thinks Bass still has a strong leg - something many of us were starting to question.

 

Inconsistent is much better than outright bad.

[Saxum]

10 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

As if he gets invited to parties 

 

All good parties need a donkey and designed arrestee.

56 minutes ago, ddaryl said:

Everybody knows Bass is a short timer

Everybody knows we can't replace him this season
Everybody knows Bass is inconsistent
Everybody knows we should replace him in an instant
We over-payed, we can't get out
That's how it goes
Everybody knows

 

Almost everyone knows it is spelled overpaid. 

[Saxum]

2 hours ago, hondo in seattle said:

How does a kicker go from good accuracy (Bass-O-Matic) to bad accuracy (Bass is still a big problem)?

 

It's not age because he's still young.  It's not physical talent because he's already demonstrated he possesses that.   

 

It's gotta be psychological, which is to say it's fixable.  

 

Maybe the game-winning 61-yarder cures the yips.  Maybe it doesn't.  Given the options available, I agree with Beane and McD in continuing to work with Bass through his issues for a little while more.  

 

It happened after he got hit while kicking and was fighting thru kicking and like a QB seeing ghosts he is nervous about it happening again which is reasonable since blocking on FGs has not been as good as for offense line.

[Buffalo_Stampede]

Jets signed Riley Patterson after putting struggling kicker Greg Zuerlein on IR. 
 

Then they released Riley Patterson and signed Anders Carlson.

 

This is what Bills fans want the Bills to do at kicker.

[Bockeye]

4 hours ago, Einstein's Dog said:

What if the major problem people were thinking about Bass was he was Bad.  And yes he missed an extra point but didn't he hit two other 40+ yard field goals?  So two 40+ yarders and a 61 yarder, doesn't that at least move him up to inconsistent?

 

And doesn't the fact that McDermott put him in to even attempt a 61 yard prove that McDermott thinks Bass still has a strong leg - something many of us were starting to question.

 

Inconsistent is much better than outright bad.

I agree.  

 

Much like our pass rush - not bad, but inconsistent.  Are we allowed to talk about this?

[ganesh]

5 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Jets signed Riley Patterson after putting struggling kicker Greg Zuerlein on IR. 
 

Then they released Riley Patterson and signed Anders Carlson.

 

This is what Bills fans want the Bills to do at kicker.

Do you want the Bills to be the Jets....Jeesh.

[TheyCallMeAndy]

Bass is on pace for 30/36 with a long of 61.

 

I can live with that. 

[ganesh]

3 hours ago, TheyCallMeAndy said:

Bass is on pace for 30/36 with a long of 61.

 

I can live with that. 

as long as he can kick game winners

[Dan Darragh]

On 11/9/2024 at 1:30 AM, WIDE LEFT said:

Everyone seems to think that the great 61 yard field goal solves what was a major problem. Sorry, but no, Bass is still a huge question mark, and could be a fatal flaw in the playoffs. Prior to that great kick, he missed an extra point. Then clanked ANOTHER extra point off the post. After the extra point he barely made, he mishit his kickoff, allowing a return at the worst possible time. So three consecutive shaky kicks, then one spectacular kick, and problem solved? I don’t think so. 

 

22 hours ago, Buffalo03 said:

You sound like someone I wanna have a beer with

My dear old Dad left us 9 years ago and I miss him a lot.  Except when watching Bills games.  That's exactly what he sounded like non-stop from the opening kickoff to the final whistle. If the Bills lost, he was like "See?" and if they won he was like "They didn't deserve to win."

 

But he took me to games at the Rockpile and got me started on this lifelong journey.

Edited November 10 by Dan Darragh