JP51 Posted November 12 Posted November 12 On 11/9/2024 at 1:02 PM, Don Otreply said: Yeah, I’ll give you that, he may well be an upgrade over Hamlin, Mad respect for 3... but facts are it doesnt take much to upgrade over him... sub par coverage skills made up for by bad angles and tackling.
bills_fan Posted November 12 Posted November 12 I voted Yes and always figured it would be after the bye week. 1
boyst Posted December 4 Author Posted December 4 Ya know I should close this thread since Hamlin is leading Pro bowl votes. But, honestly, I think Poyer was really dragging Hyde down. It's a shame, both were amazing as a duo. 1
Spiderweb Posted December 4 Posted December 4 1 hour ago, boyst said: Ya know I should close this thread since Hamlin is leading Pro bowl votes. But, honestly, I think Poyer was really dragging Hyde down. It's a shame, both were amazing as a duo. Maybe, but they both were breaking down the past couple years. Before that, they made a lot of plays....
gonzo1105 Posted December 4 Posted December 4 He’s not coming back. Beane has been pleasant with his GM speak out of respect for Hyde and his career
Richard Noggin Posted December 4 Posted December 4 We know it was at least a door left partially open between Hyde and Beane (with some comments to that end), and that door has not yet been publicly closed by either party. Stranger things have happened. Feels like we've actually seen a fair amount of this sort of late season 30-something vet signing across the league (and with the Bills specifically) for a little while now.
1BD_mailman Posted December 4 Posted December 4 5 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said: He’s not coming back. Beane has been pleasant with his GM speak out of respect for Hyde and his career
Mr Info Posted December 4 Posted December 4 (edited) The Athletic has a Hyde returning to the Bills article in it today written by Joe B. I do not subscribe so cannot summarize it. Edited December 4 by Mr Info
thenorthremembers Posted December 4 Posted December 4 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Mr Info said: The Athletic has a Hyde returning to the Bills article in it today written by Joe B. I do not subscribe so cannot summarize it. I just read it. It essentially says the return would benefit the Bills most in the locker room. It sent on to say his most likely spot would be taking over for Hamlin. While Bishop is waiting in the wings he hasnt done enough to take over for Hamlin. It wouldnt be acceptable for McDermott to make that move. But if it were for Hyde it would be more acceptable in the locker room. Personally, I think it would go against everything McDermott stands for to bring Hyde back this late in the season to take over for a guy who has played every game, regardless of perceived shortcomings. Edited December 4 by thenorthremembers 1
Einstein's Dog Posted December 4 Posted December 4 14 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: Personally, I think it would go against everything McDermott stands for to bring Hyde back this late in the season to take over for a guy who has played every game, regardless of perceived shortcomings. I don't understand the idea that this move would be against everything McDermott stands for. McDermott's top priority is to make this team the best it can be, and if that means bringing Hyde in, you do it. They brought in A Cooper even though Hollins had played every game. Hamlin is not supposed to be some pity move, that's insulting.
Aussie Joe Posted December 4 Posted December 4 does Hyde even want to come back ? I’m going to say it doesn’t happen .. Im going to predict that they extend Hamlin this offseason … 1 year at $2m or something seems to be the figure that Beane throws out there to bring back secondary guys he likes ..that will make everybody happy no doubt 😂…
Richard Noggin Posted December 4 Posted December 4 50 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: I just read it. It essentially says the return would benefit the Bills most in the locker room. It sent on to say his most likely spot would be taking over for Hamlin. While Bishop is waiting in the wings he hasnt done enough to take over for Hamlin. It wouldnt be acceptable for McDermott to make that move. But if it were for Hyde it would be more acceptable in the locker room. Personally, I think it would go against everything McDermott stands for to bring Hyde back this late in the season to take over for a guy who has played every game, regardless of perceived shortcomings. Disagree in part because of what @Einstein's Dog shares below (responsibility to always look for ways to improve his team). But also disagree because Hyde already has the first hand trust and respect of MANY or even MOST (?) of the locker room. 26 minutes ago, Einstein's Dog said: I don't understand the idea that this move would be against everything McDermott stands for. McDermott's top priority is to make this team the best it can be, and if that means bringing Hyde in, you do it. They brought in A Cooper even though Hollins had played every game. Hamlin is not supposed to be some pity move, that's insulting. Also important to consider that in the scenario where he returns, Hyde would be on a pitch count of sorts for a number of weeks. Probably mostly in on specific down-and-distances/personnel packages, at least for a while. Like that extra dime DB that has gone from Ingram (among others) to mainly Lewis lately. So he wouldn't be simply benching Hamlin. Also, film review doesn't lie. If Hamlin is late on some run reads/fits and taking bad downhill angles, as it looks like lately to me, then you know his coaches and teammates (at LEAST in the DB room) are aware of that. That's all IF, of course. I'm no expert nor am I pretending to be by streaming my own film breakdowns. Frankly, we miss SO much at the stadium. We also see SO much. But we're not getting clear and comprehensive replays on the scoreboards or any kind of discernible audio over the PA system, so we're just vibing from play to play without much reflection or narration. 1
1BD_mailman Posted December 4 Posted December 4 It’s not a matter if this happens, but what time will it be announced tomorrow 😉
beerme1 Posted December 4 Posted December 4 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Richard Noggin said: Disagree in part because of what @Einstein's Dog shares below (responsibility to always look for ways to improve his team). But also disagree because Hyde already has the first hand trust and respect of MANY or even MOST (?) of the locker room. Also important to consider that in the scenario where he returns, Hyde would be on a pitch count of sorts for a number of weeks. Probably mostly in on specific down-and-distances/personnel packages, at least for a while. Like that extra dime DB that has gone from Ingram (among others) to mainly Lewis lately. So he wouldn't be simply benching Hamlin. Also, film review doesn't lie. If Hamlin is late on some run reads/fits and taking bad downhill angles, as it looks like lately to me, then you know his coaches and teammates (at LEAST in the DB room) are aware of that. That's all IF, of course. I'm no expert nor am I pretending to be by streaming my own film breakdowns. Frankly, we miss SO much at the stadium. We also see SO much. But we're not getting clear and comprehensive replays on the scoreboards or any kind of discernible audio over the PA system, so we're just vibing from play to play without much reflection or narration. Why would Hyde be on a pitch count if Milano wasn't? Hyde has said he will always be in gameday shape and I don't doubt that for a minute from him. Edited December 4 by beerme1 Add
Buffalo_Stampede Posted December 4 Posted December 4 So we have this personnel package with Cam Lewis. Last year it was Rapp coming on with Hyde and Poyer. We use this personnel package a lot. Cam Lewis has played well. But does Hyde upgrade this personnel package? 1
Richard Noggin Posted December 4 Posted December 4 27 minutes ago, beerme1 said: Why would Hyde be on a pitch count if Milano wasn't? Hyde has said he will always be in gameday shape and I don't doubt that for a minute from him. Milano was supposed to be on a pitch count, and was meant to play on 1st and 2nd downs. They admitted he got a few more snaps than they had intended. Dude's an ELITE coverage (and blitzing) LB but came off the field on every 3rd down they could sub him out. That's a pitch count in my book I guess.
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