Democrat Self Reflection Post Landslide....

[Joe Ferguson forever]

1 hour ago, Orlando Buffalo said:

Do you dispute my statements about prices or are you simply being a pedantic dope? I have lived it where in 2019 I could find pork roasts for 1.99 a pound and now all are 3.69 a pound. I am well off m because I always find value, therefore cost is important to me. 

I remember my dad buying gas in WNY for 35 cents a gallon.  No one thought milk would ever go for $1 per gallon nor bread for $1 a loaf.  And we ate wonder bread.     Lord knows why.   Crispy, crusty bread is where it's at.  Inflation happens.

 

$3200 list in 1970

http://artpictures.club/autumn-2023.html

Edited November 16 by Joe Ferguson forever

[Big Blitz]

Wow.  Yea they definitely hate Obama and Harris.  Biggest untold story in America right now is the Civil War in the Democrat party - and the commies are winning

 

 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

44 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

Wow.  Yea they definitely hate Obama and Harris.  Biggest untold story in America right now is the Civil War in the Democrat party - and the commies are winning

 

 

call a spade a spade

[Orlando Buffalo]

9 hours ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

I remember my dad buying gas in WNY for 35 cents a gallon.  No one thought milk would ever go for $1 per gallon nor bread for $1 a loaf.  And we ate wonder bread.     Lord knows why.   Crispy, crusty bread is where it's at.  Inflation happens.

 

$3200 list in 1970

http://artpictures.club/autumn-2023.html

So you agree that the US government has been a poor steward of our currency? Or are you pulling a Grandpa Simpson? 

[dgrochester55]

23 hours ago, B-Man said:

 

 

                           

 

 

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"But...but.....but, it was about muuuhhhhhh saaaaaaafety!!"

 

Never forget that we were just a Supreme Court decision away from needing to take an experimental unproven vaccine in order to have a job and survive. I saw many friends and acquaintances who I would have previously seen as rational and nice people say things on social media that made me think that i was in a dystopian parallel universe.

 

I didn't understand how people could get to the point of turning in neighbors for hiding Jews in Nazi Germany until COVID happened. It was a sad wake-up call on just how dark human nature can be sometimes.

Edited November 16 by dgrochester55

[Joe Ferguson forever]

2 hours ago, Orlando Buffalo said:

So you agree that the US government has been a poor steward of our currency? Or are you pulling a Grandpa Simpson? 

prices were similar in all 1st world countries at the time.  inflation is actually lower here than most nations.  so I think we've done ok.  and the stock market has been consistently excellent.

1 hour ago, dgrochester55 said:

 

"But...but.....but, it was about muuuhhhhhh saaaaaaafety!!"

 

Never forget that we were just a Supreme Court decision away from needing to take an experimental unproven vaccine in order to have a job and survive. I saw many friends and acquaintances who I would have previously seen as rational and nice people say things on social media that made me think that i was in a dystopian parallel universe.

 

I didn't understand how people could get to the point of turning in neighbors for hiding Jews in Nazi Germany until COVID happened. It was a sad wake-up call on just how dark human nature can be sometimes.

because a vaccine to save lives is the same as genocide in concentration camps.  shameless and absurd.

[dgrochester55]

32 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

 

because a vaccine to save lives is the same as genocide in concentration camps.  shameless and absurd.

 

That post is so 2021. In case the election didn't clue you in, toxic conformity is out of style.

 

Before you resort to the childish anti-vax label, I got the J&J in may of 2021 and the Novavax last year.  I believe in vaccines, when they work and and they are not forced. The mRNA vaccines were clearly ineffective in the long term, all they did is mask the sickness instead of preventing it or stopping it from spreading. Even our current president has had COVID three times despite getting every shot and booster. I understand that it was helpful in the severity, but it also caused it to spread around more and if COVID ends up being correlated with a much higher risk of auto-immune disease(something that is being researched) it royally screwed a lot of people.

 

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7289100/

 

https://www.yalemedicine.org/news/antibodies-from-long-covid-patients-provide-clues-to-autoimmunity-hypothesis

 

https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/immunology/articles/10.3389/fimmu.2024.1337406/full

 

Regardless, there was no excuse for the camps/no work/no food mentality. We never would have even talked about doing that for effective proven vaccines before COVID. Why, other than fear mongering and mob mentality were we suddenly talking about this for an unproven experimental one?

 

Edit: Added sources and clarified my ineffectiveness comment.

Edited November 16 by dgrochester55

[Joe Ferguson forever]

10 minutes ago, dgrochester55 said:

 

That post is so 2021. In case the election didn't clue you in, toxic conformity is out of style.

 

Before you resort to the childish anti-vax label, I got the J&J in may of 2021 and the Novavax last year.  I believe in vaccines, when they work and and they are not forced. The mRNA vaccines were clearly ineffective, all they did is mask the sickness instead of preventing it or stopping it from spreading. Even our current president has had COVID three times despite getting every shot and booster. I understand that it was helpful in the severity, but it also caused it to spread around more and if COVID ends up resulting in a much higher risk of auto-immune disease(something that is being researched) it royally screwed a lot of people.

 

Regardless, there was no excuse for the camps/no work/no food mentality. We never would have even talked about doing that for effective proven vaccines before COVID.

I was still in practice during the height of covid.  The overwhelming majority of ICU covid patients and deaths from covid were unvaxed.  nazism was in style in the 30's and 40's.  it was tragic.  what is in style can be catastrophic.  Millions of lives were saved by the vax

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/covid-19/report-covid-19-vaccines-saved-us-115-trillion-3-million-lives

https://www.commonwealthfund.org/blog/2022/two-years-covid-vaccines-prevented-millions-deaths-hospitalizations

Edited November 16 by Joe Ferguson forever

[dgrochester55]

16 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

I was still in practice during the height of covid.  The overwhelming majority of ICU covid patients and deaths from covid were unvaxed.  nazism was in style in the 30's and 40's.  it was tragic.  what is in style can be catastrophic.  Millions of lives were saved by the vax

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/covid-19/report-covid-19-vaccines-saved-us-115-trillion-3-million-lives

 

I don't doubt that they saved lives. Since you were a doctor, you have insight that most people would not. My problem was the monopoly on the mRNA options. J&J was pulled from the market because the media exaggerated the risk of blood clots. Novavax was banned here until 2023 despite working well in other countries. People should have had options and it should have been up to individual work places to decide on vaccine guidelines. I personally wanted something that was likely to stop me from getting COVID instead of giving me a milder version.

 

I edited my initial ineffective comment to clarify that I meant ineffective in the long term. The mRNA's vaccine saved lives, they were the best short term solution, but there were risks involved.  Those risks would normally keep it from being in the market, but it was understandably released on an emergency basis. I just don't think that it should have been mandatory. I think that everyone had a right to be made aware of their options and do what they thought was best instead of being pressured to take limited choices.

 

 

Edited November 16 by dgrochester55

[B-Man]

 

 

 

 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

23 minutes ago, dgrochester55 said:

 

I don't doubt that they saved lives. Since you were a doctor, you have insight that most people would not. My problem was the monopoly on the mRNA options. J&J was pulled from the market because the media exaggerated the risk of blood clots. Novavax was banned here until 2023 despite working well in other countries. People should have had options and it should have been up to individual work places to decide on vaccine guidelines. I personally wanted something that was likely to stop me from getting COVID instead of giving me a milder version.

 

I edited my initial ineffective comment to clarify that I meant ineffective in the long term. The mRNA's vaccine saved lives, they were the best short term solution, but there were risks involved.  Those risks would normally keep it from being in the market, but it was understandably released on an emergency basis. I just don't think that it should have been mandatory. I think that everyone had a right to be made aware of their options and do what they thought was best instead of being pressured to take limited choices.

 

 

Firstly, I'm still a doctor.  That can never be taken away.  Even have an active license but don't plan on going back to work.  The fact that you recognize special insight is encouraging.  I wish more people respected the expertise of scientists and physicians at that time but there was an active anti science campaign nationally, especially among  MAGAs.  They didn't want our help until they got sick. Then they demanded it and we provided it. There were times where all ICU beds were full in my area.  No ventilators left.  And many people died.  Had the vaccine been universally administered, we would have never reached that point.

[dgrochester55]

11 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

Firstly, I'm still a doctor.  That can never be taken away.  Even have an active license but don't plan on going back to work.  The fact that you recognize special insight is encouraging.  I wish more people respected the expertise of scientists and physicians at that time but there was an active anti science campaign nationally, especially among  MAGAs.  They didn't want our help until they got sick. Then they demanded it and we provided it. There were times where all ICU beds were full in my area.  No ventilators left.  And many people died.  Had the vaccine been universally administered, we would have never reached that point.

 

My mistake on the wording of "were a doctor", I understand how the licensing process goes, just a poor choice of words. No intent to discredit you there.

 

I can see why you may think otherwise based on my recent posts, but I am far from a MAGA. I am center-right and somewhere between Republican and Libertarian. I despise authoritarianism and speak out against whatever I see as the biggest immediate threat. Recently, in my opinion has been the far left. If Trump was to ever go extreme and do what your side thinks he is going to do, I will be just as vocally against that. I also feel like mainstream media (from both sides) is a much larger culprit in the polarization of this country than any politician on the left or right.

Edited November 16 by dgrochester55

[Biden is Mentally Fit]

23 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

No ventilators left.  And many people died.  Had the vaccine been universally administered, we would have never reached that point.

By April of 2020 ventilators were being frowned upon as a covid intervention. We know the vaccine wasn’t widely available until spring 2021. These facts make your statement above mostly bullsh*t. 

[Biden is Mentally Fit]

lol 

[Tommy Callahan]

Nailed it.   

 

 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

20 hours ago, dgrochester55 said:

 

My mistake on the wording of "were a doctor", I understand how the licensing process goes, just a poor choice of words. No intent to discredit you there.

 

I can see why you may think otherwise based on my recent posts, but I am far from a MAGA. I am center-right and somewhere between Republican and Libertarian. I despise authoritarianism and speak out against whatever I see as the biggest immediate threat. Recently, in my opinion has been the far left. If Trump was to ever go extreme and do what your side thinks he is going to do, I will be just as vocally against that. I also feel like mainstream media (from both sides) is a much larger culprit in the polarization of this country than any politician on the left or right.

He aspires to be an authoritarian. He has told us. You haven’t been listening. 

[BillsFanNC]

 

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

21 hours ago, dgrochester55 said:

 

My mistake on the wording of "were a doctor", I understand how the licensing process goes, just a poor choice of words. No intent to discredit you there.

 

I can see why you may think otherwise based on my recent posts, but I am far from a MAGA. I am center-right and somewhere between Republican and Libertarian. I despise authoritarianism and speak out against whatever I see as the biggest immediate threat. Recently, in my opinion has been the far left. If Trump was to ever go extreme and do what your side thinks he is going to do, I will be just as vocally against that. I also feel like mainstream media (from both sides) is a much larger culprit in the polarization of this country than any politician on the left or right.

I think it’s important to remember the basics: there are good doctors, bad doctors, doctors who inspire, doctors who are lazy, doctors who lie, doctors with integrity, a doctors who can be trusted, doctors who cannot, doctors with moderate political views and doctors who represent the fringe.  A sensible approach to taking care of oneself includes a trust but verify approach.  Sadly, as the opiod crisis showed us, sometimes that’s not enough. 
 

Fergies’s positioning here reminds me of the Seinfeld episode with “The Maestro”.   

 

 

[Tommy Callahan]

The left used to call this cultural appropriation and sciatic terrorism.  (It's a war chant)

 

 

[Westside]

2 minutes ago, Tommy Callahan said:

The left used to call this cultural appropriation and sciatic terrorism.  (It's a war chant)

 

 

Was that tibs or roundly?